Deer gets revenge on the hunter who shot him....

[TheBugHouse]

............Where I get nauseated is when thinking about how our animals we eat and buy from our supermarkets are slaughtered at slaughterhouses...........

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I guess some people consider that "more humane" than hunting.

.......But I sure don't relish in any delight that this man got injured............

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That was my objection to some of the responses, I don't care that some people don't like hunting, although it's curious to me how someone can be so opinionated about something they have no understanding of. And then to find joy in the fact that a man was harmed is disgusting to me.

 

[BeavisMom62]

My family is very much avid hunters and we kill only what we intend to eat. Killing a deer for instance is much more humane with one shot fired to end its suffering immediately.
Where I get nauseated is when thinking about how our animals we eat and buy from our supermarkets are slaughtered at slaughterhouses. Then that makes me want to barf. It is as cruel and inhumane as it can be. The animal knows something is very wrong, they sense it and have such fear and shrill and squeal yet they are slammed in the head or their heads cut off with them just standing there trapped.
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ITA, Ocean. I was vegetarian for many years because of that fact. And not only the way that they are slaughtered is cruel, but the way that they are raised. I am ashamed of myself to admit that after I got together with my DH, it was just "easier" to go back to eating meat. I hate that about myself that I couldn't take a strong enough stand to stick with it. :chicken: when I am by myself or for lunches, I will still prefer vegetarian, but when making dinner or grocery shopping, DH is pretty much a meat and potatoes guy, so I just go along with it.

 

[gman20001969]

And venison is much better for you then beef, it is not full of antibiotics and god knows what else to get it to market the quickest and cheapest way.

That is absolutely correct! Though I don't hunt, my nephew does and eats mostly venison. I hope this hunter heals up and continues to hunt.

 

[believe09]

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I guess some people consider that "more humane" than hunting.
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That was my objection to some of the responses, I don't care that some people don't like hunting, although it's curious to me how someone can be so opinionated about something they have no understanding of. And then to find joy in the fact that a man was harmed is disgusting to me.

I don't hate hunting or hunters-I loved the strength and heart the animal displayed..the animal defended itself against the hunter even though the playing field was not level, ie: the hunter had a weapon and was firing from a distance. The deer had a set of antlers and considerable body weight. I think there is a sensitivity being displayed here that might not be warranted, IMO. It appears that in your opinion the hunter's lack of experience got him injured-this may very well be true. I like to think that the animal displayed courage-it is more likely of course that the deer was thrashing around because of pain and the extra testosterone that comes at this time of the year for the animal.

 

[Gray]

It really bothers me that some people are happy the hunter got injured by the deer. Is human life really equal to animal life? Would you have been happy if he died as well as the deer? Maybe you don't think that extreme, but I personally find nothing wrong with hunting as a well-trained hunter knows how to shoot an animal without the animal experiencing as much pain as they may in a slaughterhouse. I'd rather eat a buck taken down with one shot than a cow that's been slaughtered in a painful way. But ground beef is more humane, I suppose, because you don't see the cow actually die. All we see is the plastic wrapped beef at the grocery store.

I'm tired of the trend that society has taken towards valuing animals at the same level as human beings. JMO. You don't have to agree with me if you don't want to.

 

[eve]

It really bothers me that some people are happy the hunter got injured by the deer. Is human life really equal to animal life? Would you have been happy if he died as well as the deer? Maybe you don't think that extreme, but I personally find nothing wrong with hunting as a well-trained hunter knows how to shoot an animal without the animal experiencing as much pain as they may in a slaughterhouse. I'd rather eat a buck taken down with one shot than a cow that's been slaughtered in a painful way. But ground beef is more humane, I suppose, because you don't see the cow actually die. All we see is the plastic wrapped beef at the grocery store.

I'm tired of the trend that society has taken towards valuing animals at the same level as human beings. JMO. You don't have to agree with me if you don't want to.

I agree, I feel the same way. In the same way people throw blood all over fur-wearers but those same people wear all kinds of leather. It doesn't make sense. I knew a guy that was all for saving whales but had no problem with partial birth abortions.

Coming from a long line of humane conservationist hunters, I know the value to our culture. I have known people who have been killed hitting a deer in a car. They run out in front of me all the time, scares me to death. Around here there are way too many of them and they gobble everything up like giant rodents. I think they are beautiful to watch, but hunting serves a real purpose and many hunters around here donate processed meat to the food shelves - or they did, until in some areas the rabid anti-hunters protested - again, reflecting the animal over human philosophy.

My son is an accomplished bow hunter. His experiences hunting and fishing have led him to do service spring breaks in areas like Cumberland Island where he worked on all kinds of conservation and environmental projects. He is very respectful of nature. He has donated his processed venison to a soup kitchen where he regularly volunteers. He also works while in college in the dairy foraging section of the USDA lab (to increase and improve quality and quantity of milk production) and he says there are students working there who are so sensitive to the cows' "feelings" that they won't do their jobs properly - it drives him nuts. He call the cows "his girls," but he's not afraid to whack 'em in the backside with a shovel when he has to get them to move. Believe me, they barely feel it. A girl he works with actually cries when he does that, even though the vets in charge tell the kids to do it so they won't get hurt by or wedged in a corner by the cows. He always has to pick up the slack for her and thinks she should be fired.


Eve

 

[believe09]

I agree, I feel the same way. In the same way people throw blood all over fur-wearers but those same people wear all kinds of leather. It doesn't make sense. I knew a guy that was all for saving whales but had no problem with partial birth abortions.

Coming from a long line of humane conservationist hunters, I know the value to our culture. I have known people who have been killed hitting a deer in a car. They run out in front of me all the time, scares me to death. Around here there are way too many of them and they gobble everything up like giant rodents. I think they are beautiful to watch, but hunting serves a real purpose and many hunters around here donate processed meat to the food shelves - or they did, until in some areas the rabid anti-hunters protested - again, reflecting the animal over human philosophy.

My son is an accomplished bow hunter. His experiences hunting and fishing have led him to do service spring breaks in areas like Cumberland Island where he worked on all kinds of conservation and environmental projects. He is very respectful of nature. He has donated his processed venison to a soup kitchen where he regularly volunteers. He also works while in college in the dairy foraging section of the USDA lab (to increase and improve quality and quantity of milk production) and he says there are students working there who are so sensitive to the cows' "feelings" that they won't do their jobs properly - it drives him nuts. He call the cows "his girls," but he's not afraid to whack 'em in the backside with a shovel when he has to get them to move. Believe me, they barely feel it. A girl he works with actually cries when he does that, even though the vets in charge tell the kids to do it so they won't get hurt by or wedged in a corner by the cows. He always has to pick up the slack for her and thinks she should be fired.


Eve

Now here is an age old debate-do people inject animals with feelings that they do not have? Yes, to a certain degree many do. Think of the term "humane treatment." But seeing as how animals don't have the capacity to join in the debate, I won't buy for now the fact that they do not have equal ability to think and suffer. Now, I know for sure that a deer cannot hold a crossbow or a gun, they are plant eaters unless there is something very wrong so I get the part that they are part of the human food chain.

I think that some of the pro hunters are taking this article a little seriously, but that is just my opinion-I view it more as the deer striking a blow for the underdog in this fight. After all the deer was minding it's own business when the hunter shot it-this is not a criticism of the hunter, just a fact. The hunter approached and was stomped. This is a story that has more than a little irony-the hunter did not expect to be stomped and the deer did not expect to be shot....sort of like the story last year about the hunter being shot by his dog.

 

[eve]

Now here is an age old debate-do people inject animals with feelings that they do not have? Yes, to a certain degree many do. Think of the term "humane treatment." But seeing as how animals don't have the capacity to join in the debate, I won't buy for now the fact that they do not have equal ability to think and suffer. Now, I know for sure that a deer cannot hold a crossbow or a gun, they are plant eaters unless there is something very wrong so I get the part that they are part of the human food chain.

I think that some of the pro hunters are taking this article a little seriously, but that is just my opinion-I view it more as the deer striking a blow for the underdog in this fight. After all the deer was minding it's own business when the hunter shot it-this is not a criticism of the hunter, just a fact. The hunter approached and was stomped. This is a story that has more than a little irony-the hunter did not expect to be stomped and the deer did not expect to be shot....sort of like the story last year about the hunter being shot by his dog.

Oh, I understand and appreciate what the deer did - I just was agreeing with those who said it's a bit over the top to be glad and even gleeful that a human was hurt. I do think animals suffer and good hunters minimize this. Conservationists try to help control animal populations through hunting and its regulation (and fees) in order to prevent animal starvation and overpopulation.


Eve

 

[believe09]

Oh, I understand and appreciate what the deer did - I just was agreeing with those who said it's a bit over the top to be glad and even gleeful that a human was hurt. I do think animals suffer and good hunters minimize this. Conservationists try to help control animal populations through hunting and its regulation (and fees) in order to prevent animal starvation and overpopulation.


Eve

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[petresq_algc]

I have never understood the "sport" of hunting myself. At least in a sport like football or baseball, both teams have the same skills & tools to defeat the other. We should all probably just agree to disagree here.

 

[Linda7NJ]

If you're worried about over population I'm sure there are more humane ways of dealing with it.
You're kidding right? Like what?



Those buck condoms are really hard to get on with those hooves when the buck is feeling all frisky:doh:

 

[Pandora]

If you're worried about over population I'm sure there are more humane ways of dealing with it.
You're kidding right? Like what?



Those buck condoms are really hard to get on with those hooves when the buck is feeling all frisky:doh:

Linda, isn't it obvious? We need to put some birth control in the salt lick!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If you're worried about over population I'm sure there are more humane ways of dealing with it.
You're kidding right? Like what?



Those buck condoms are really hard to get on with those hooves when the buck is feeling all frisky:doh:

Baaaaaaaaawhaaaaaaaaaa!:clap::laugh::laugh: :laughbounce:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Linda, isn't it obvious? We need to put some birth control in the salt lick!

:crazy:

 

[TheBugHouse]

I don't hate hunting or hunters-I loved the strength and heart the animal displayed..the animal defended itself against the hunter even though the playing field was not level, ie: the hunter had a weapon and was firing from a distance. The deer had a set of antlers and considerable body weight. I think there is a sensitivity being displayed here that might not be warranted, IMO. It appears that in your opinion the hunter's lack of experience got him injured-this may very well be true. I like to think that the animal displayed courage-it is more likely of course that the deer was thrashing around because of pain and the extra testosterone that comes at this time of the year for the animal.

Now here is an age old debate-do people inject animals with feelings that they do not have? Yes, to a certain degree many do. Think of the term "humane treatment." But seeing as how animals don't have the capacity to join in the debate, I won't buy for now the fact that they do not have equal ability to think and suffer. Now, I know for sure that a deer cannot hold a crossbow or a gun, they are plant eaters unless there is something very wrong so I get the part that they are part of the human food chain.

I think that some of the pro hunters are taking this article a little seriously, but that is just my opinion-I view it more as the deer striking a blow for the underdog in this fight. After all the deer was minding it's own business when the hunter shot it-this is not a criticism of the hunter, just a fact. The hunter approached and was stomped. This is a story that has more than a little irony-the hunter did not expect to be stomped and the deer did not expect to be shot....sort of like the story last year about the hunter being shot by his dog.

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It's not the article that’s bothersome, you see them every season, its the sentiment that this poor guy deserved to get pummeled because he was doing something 'evil'. Those are my words but that was the gist of the first few responses to the OP. You're correct about it not being a level playing field however, the deer has a tremendous advantage. Only a poacher has the upper hand, a true hunter is the underdog. Otherwise every single hunter would bag his prey every single time they went out. It's usually quite the opposite.

 

[BeavisMom62]

If you're worried about over population I'm sure there are more humane ways of dealing with it.
You're kidding right? Like what?



Those buck condoms are really hard to get on with those hooves when the buck is feeling all frisky:doh:

Good one Linda! ROFLMAO!!! :clap:

 

[GreenEyedGirl]

Seems to me that payback is a b*tch

 

[BeavisMom62]

This really was an interesting debate. As I've said before, I have nothing against hunting as long as it is done "properly". Real hunters know what I mean. I, personally would be unable to do it or even eat it. My husband likes to fish and I LOVE eating fish. But one day, he brought home this huge trout and had to show it to me before he filleted it. Well, that did me in. As soon as I saw the face, or for that matter knew that he had caught it, I couldn't eat it. Same with lobster. He brought a few home and "killed" them, I'm not sure how, he wouldn't tell and I didn't ask. I had a few bites and almost gagged. Weird isn't it? I can eat stuff bought at the store or at a restaurant, but if I know that it was "killed for me" or if I see it alive beforehand, nope, can't do it, can't eat it. Wish I could. You should have seen the size of that trout! And DH was so proud, I felt so bad I couldn't eat it.

 

[petresq_algc]

This really was an interesting debate. As I've said before, I have nothing against hunting as long as it is done "properly". Real hunters know what I mean. I, personally would be unable to do it or even eat it. My husband likes to fish and I LOVE eating fish. But one day, he brought home this huge trout and had to show it to me before he filleted it. Well, that did me in. As soon as I saw the face, or for that matter knew that he had caught it, I couldn't eat it. Same with lobster. He brought a few home and "killed" them, I'm not sure how, he wouldn't tell and I didn't ask. I had a few bites and almost gagged. Weird isn't it? I can eat stuff bought at the store or at a restaurant, but if I know that it was "killed for me" or if I see it alive beforehand, nope, can't do it, can't eat it. Wish I could. You should have seen the size of that trout! And DH was so proud, I felt so bad I couldn't eat it.

When I was a little kid I lived next door to a man that hunted deer. I was good friends with his kids & went over to visit. He had a deer strung up and was "processing" it. I cried my eyes out & it made such an impact on me that I haven't eaten meat or worn leather/fur since. I think it is poetic justice.

 

[lovelabs]

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If you don't like hunting, don't hunt. But to revel in the fact that a man was seriously injured while enjoying an activity that is not only legal, but vital to our environmental conservation and rich in sportsmanship and tradition, is just pathetic. Do either of you have any idea the revenue generated for each states fish and wildlife dept. by hunters? Do either of you have any idea of the incredible migration and census data collected anually by hunters? Gun ownership and hunting instilled in me a deep sense of responsibility at a very young age, I will try my best to provide the same experiences to my children. In fact for xmas I got them lifetime hunting and fishing licenses. I take comfort in the fact that the typical, uneducated, alarmist viewpoints, such as these, are in the vast minority in this country. The real problem with this hunter is that he was using a .270 when he should've been using a .30-06, he may be able to use a little target practice as well.

I just have to say that I shoot a .270 and every deer I've ever shot, I've dropped it where I shot it but one that ran about 50 yards. That would be an 8 point, a spike (before our laws changed) and 6 doe. I believe the .270 150 grain bullet is enough if you make sure of good shot placement. I have no problem letting them walk/run if I don't feel confident in the shot I take.