GUILTY Denmark - Kim Wall, 30, Copenhagen, 10 Aug 2017

[Logical_Inference]

I wonder how he can think that people will continue to believe all his stories. And his poor defense-lawyer...


Anyway one of his friends has been interviewed:
Peter Madsen's close friend for a new explanation: 'In principle, it may have been good, but where did it come from?'
https://translate.google.com/transl...ring-det-kan-i-princippet-godt-vaere-sket-men

 

[SATA]

Police consider the case to be investigated thoroughly eough and ready to go to court.

The case is scheduled as a jury case in Copenhagen City Council to run over eight legal days: March 8, March 23, March 26, March 27, March 28, April 5, 23, and April 25, 2018.

https://www.msn.com/da-dk/nyheder/k...g-ny-sigtelse-i-ubådssagen/ar-AAueaNG?ocid=sf

Logical_inference, how do you make those direct translations?

 

[Logical_Inference]

It is easy. Just copy the link-adress and copy it into here:
http://itools.com/tool/google-translate-web-page-translator

 

[chinacat67]

Police consider the case to be investigated thoroughly eough and ready to go to court.

The case is scheduled as a jury case in Copenhagen City Council to run over eight legal days: March 8, March 23, March 26, March 27, March 28, April 5, 23, and April 25, 2018.

https://www.msn.com/da-dk/nyheder/k...g-ny-sigtelse-i-ubådssagen/ar-AAueaNG?ocid=sf

Logical_inference, how do you make those direct translations?

He's beginning to sound like our President here in the US.... lots of spinning, lots of changes to stories, and probably mental illness involved somewhere....sad. [emoji854][emoji30]

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[SATA]

He's beginning to sound like our President here in the US.... lots of spinning, lots of changes to stories, and probably mental illness involved somewhere....sad. [emoji854][emoji30]

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This is the second time today I see someone compare PM to Trump - or vice versa. LOL

 

[Ironside]

It's funny how his ever changing stories all make him look like an incompetent cartoon character. Hatch falling on her head and now it's carbon monoxide poisoning? He will say she was blown up by ACME dynamite next.


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[Ironside]

Can a Danish person explain why there are huge gaps between days of the trial? I'm baffled by this!


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[SATA]

Can a Danish person explain why there are huge gaps between days of the trial? I'm baffled by this!


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I don´t know really. My guess is those days are available, other days full up in court.

 

[SATA]

Peter Madsen has proven his evil disposition.

With his changing stories, is he deliberately toying with Kim Wall´s relatives and friends? Each new story must upset them quite a bit.

A power trip from behind bars? Has been seen before.

Or is he just this removed from reality to actually think this will fly?

You have to wonder, it is so far out there!

 

[Logical_Inference]

Maybe he is just a liar and has always been.
Some people lies all the time, and its not always that others see through it.

I knew someone at some point, that always lied. Lied to the parents, lied to the wife, to the kids, to the friends. I often speculated if people really didnt notice. I thought it was easy to see through all the lies, because he sometimes forgot what he lied about last.

So PM is maybe just used to throw all sorts of lies aorund without people noticing.

 

[SATA]

Maybe he is just a liar and has always been.
Some people lies all the time, and its not always that others see through it.

I knew someone at some point, that always lied. Lied to the parents, lied to the wife, to the kids, to the friends. I often speculated if people really didnt notice. I thought it was easy to see through all the lies, because he sometimes forgot what he lied about last.

So PM is maybe just used to throw all sorts of lies aorund without people noticing.

You are probably right.

His story has - opportunistically and every time, changed to fit new evidedence.

It´s just that I have a hard time accepting he can´t see himself how transparent he is,
This can´t be advise from his lawyer - I guess he runs the show alone, she is just his puppet.
Not a job I would like!!!

 

[Rayemonde]

Today Peter Madsen changed his story about what happened. I call it story, because story it is.

He now claims that Kim Wall died of carbon monoxide poisoning while he was up on the deck. (Yeah right!)

Also, now he admits to having dismembered her body, which is no news to anyone!

A new charge against him: sexual assault other than intercousre under aggravating circumstances.
Copenhagen Police has not released details on that.

Mental evaluation is ongoing.

Divers are still looking for Kim Wall´s arms, the two missing cel phones and possible tools (saw, most notably).

Edit to add,the head of the investigation just held a short press conference: the charge of sexual assault other than intercousre has to do with the 14 stabwounds on and around Kim Wall´s vagina.
Horrifying just writing it, it is so hard to think about.

I was surprised to see a few people earlier in the thread supporting PM and saying that they didn't think he would ever be violent or kill somebody, but he may have dismembered the body after Kim died accidentally. I think the latest sick revelation confirms that this was a sexually motivated attack

 

[Kasmeer]

This is getting ever more bizarre. He surely can't expect anyone to believe him now he's changed his story so many times? If he really does, then he's completely out of touch with reality; if he doesn't, then as others have said, power trip or trying to get a diminished responsbility categorisation? I feel so sorry for Ms Wall's friends and family, as if it wasn't bad enough in any case, the new stories every few days must make it even harder for them to cope with it all.

 

[Moll]

Can a Danish person explain why there are huge gaps between days of the trial? I'm baffled by this!


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The actual trial hasn't started yet, has it?

 

[SATA]

The actual trial hasn't started yet, has it?

No, not until March 2018.

 

[Logical_Inference]

New statement from PM's defense-lawyer.
Now its a 4th thing that might be the reason for KW's death.....

https://translate.google.com/transl...ps://www.mx.dk/nyheder/danmark/story/24817542

 

[Moll]

Is it a 4th thing, or is she just saying that Madsen didn't put it as definitely as the police have stated? And preparing for some sort of 'my client isn't getting a fair trial' defence?

Trivial aside: Google Translate can't cope with 'parteringen', can it? We've had the 'sharing' and the 'party', and other inappropriate words, of the body. Has it got multiple possible translations according to context?

 

[SATA]

New statement from PM's defense-lawyer.
Now its a 4th thing that might be the reason for KW's death.....

https://translate.google.com/transl...ps://www.mx.dk/nyheder/danmark/story/24817542

"My client explained that there was an underpressure in the submarine and a lot of exhaust gases, and some of them could be carbon monoxide. But not that it was the reason. On the contrary, he has said he does not know the cause of death, "says Betina Hald Engmark.

Sure, and why exactly was it that he didn´t sail to shore and call an ambulance right away?
Why didn´t he get affected by the gasses (he didn´t stay on the deck)?
Why did he say he had sailed her to shore and he had no idea where she was?
Why did he say the hatch crushed her skull?
Why did he dismember her, if the cause of death was merely an accident?

Peter Madsen and Betina Hald have such a great case!!!

This new turn is probably because they are afraid tests on the body can show whether Kim Wall died from a carbon monoxide poisoning.
I wonder how PM and BH conveyed the new cause of death to the police, I think it was on Saturday Oct. 28.
In writing - by phone? Police will have a record of it - and guess whom I believe?

 

[Logical_Inference]

Sure, and why exactly was it that he didn´t sail to shore and call an ambulance right away?
Why didn´t he get affected by the gasses (he didn´t stay on the deck)?
Why did he say he had sailed her to shore and he had no idea where she was?
Why did he say the hatch crushed her skull?
Why did he dismember her, if the cause of death was merely an accident?

Peter Madsen and Betina Hald have such a great case!!!

This new turn is probably because they are afraid tests on the body can show whether Kim Wall died from a carbon monoxide poisoning.
I wonder how PM and BH conveyed the new cause of death to the police, I think it was on Saturday Oct. 28.
In writing - by phone? Police will have a record of it - and guess whom I believe?

Yeah good questions.
This is getting more and more stupid. The lawyer must be desparate by now.
I hope they wont let him out of jail nov. 15, and keep him there to the case go to court.

 

[SATA]

Yeah good questions.
This is getting more and more stupid. The lawyer must be desparate by now.
I hope they wont let him out of jail nov. 15, and keep him there to the case go to court.

I honestly don´t know if they can keep him! It would be HORRIBLE if he was let out.

What about his mental evaluation? It is ongoing. What if the result of it is that he is a danger to the rest of the population - isn´t there legislation in place to keep him locked up?

I discover that I know hardly anything about the criminal law of the country I live in! I think I know more about American law, to be honest, it is embarrassing!