GUILTY Denmark - Kim Wall, 30, Copenhagen, 10 Aug 2017

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THE MADSEN CASE, FINAL PART


Claes Levin followed this on television as well as the downward spiral of the Copenhagen Suborbitals. Today he went to the workshop because the navigation system didn't leave him in peace. It should at least be disposed of properly. But it's all gone, movies were found here where women are tortured and burned.

Tuesday, August 8th, 2:30 pm: Levin calls Madsen. The dinghy was fit for the missile test on Friday. Does Madsen think he should install the navigation system in the submarine before departure? "No," Madsen said, "I'm canceling the mission." An order had been cancelled, he would have lost 30.000, Euro!

Tuesday, August 8th, 3.13 pm: Madsen invites Deirdre to the Nautilus for the very day the crew wanted to leave for the missile test area.

Wednesday, August 9th, 10:27 p. m.: Madsen posts the last blog entry, a detailed cancellation of the test. "Today there are two projects on Refshaleøen that make my wildest dreams come true." However, the test area was too full. He tried to get in touch with the Suborbitals, but they only communicate via blogs. But he doesn't want to block anyone.

Surrender? Peter Madsen? He had probably canceled this mission inwardly for some time already. The question is: When? And why is that? There are theories. One is: Madsen dreamed of committing a perfect crime. At least that's what he told a friend.

The naval officer Steen Lorck explains on Danish television that Madsen imagined himself to be hunted by the police. It would be the culmination of a narcissistic fantasy to rise above all others. An act cruel enough to put everything in the shade, the failure of Rocket Madsen Space Lab, the Copenhagen Suborbitals, the end of which only one gentleman is able to pull it off: Peter Madsen.

The second theory is that missiles are expensive. The Nautilus had been on land for years, scrapped by all the exits and stag nights that were a source of income for Madsen. He was always on the limit financially, helped by sponsors and lived in an old boat. In the last blog he also writes about money, of which he would have liked to have had more. And Claes Levin says he was missing 30,000 euros.

The next morning, on the day Kim Wall's disappearance, Madsen writes to Deirdre at 8:39:"We're going on a cruise tomorrow, Jubii!" She says,"Yeah." He sends pictures of three pairs of high-heeled shoes. I think the boots are great," he writes with three red hearts. "But you can also come in sneakers." She says,"Thank you, you're lovely." He: "Ha, you too! It takes luck to meet someone like you, Ditte. And by that I mean the whole package."

It's this sentence that Deirdre is most preoccupied with in retrospect. At the time, she didn't give it any meaning. Madsen was into heels, stilettos, stockings, but which man doesn't? And it wouldn't have been the first time they'd ever had sex on the bottom of the sea, which, by the way, they call perfectly normal. It had turned him on to hear what other men had done to her. And role-playing, masks, uniforms, that's all.

Deirdre does not write Madsen back until the evening of August 10th, about three hours after he left with Kim Wall. According to the magazine "Wired", he invites the journalist to his workshop in the late afternoon by text message. She lives nearby, prepares a farewell barbecue with her boyfriend. They want to emigrate to Beijing. When Wall receives the interview promise she can't resist the lure of a good story. That night she was last seen alive.

After the first meeting with Deirdre, a second meeting was arranged. It should have taken place on the day when the Danish newspapers are full with a new detail:"Murder plan revealed by SMS", for example, is the headline of the tabloid "BT". Anonymously cited is a woman from the alternative scene. She asked Madsen in a text message to stimulate her with a threat. Then he revealed the fantasy of cutting up a woman in a submarine.

Is this woman Deirdre? She doesn't answer for a day, she promises a meeting and then cancels it again. Only Thomas Djursing, Madsen's biographer, who had previously rejected several requests for this article, can now clarify the matter. Before Christmas he wanted to publish a book series on the case and triggered a shitstorm. Critics accused him of lacking respect for the victim's family. That's why he didn't want to give any more interviews before the trial.

Now he answers anyway. Deirdre was "very close to Madsen, until the end". Of course, he is torturing his brain, looking for the missing pieces of this horrible puzzle like a man possessed. He knows about another woman that Madsen tried to lure on the submarine. And from a new theory: Has Madsen made a snuff film? Did he kill Kim Wall in front of running cameras? Were there any boats nearby that could have received the material? "Yes, two," says Djursing and offers the keyword Barcelona.



Almost at the same time, Deirdre writes and apologizes for having needed distance. She is now convinced that she was the perfect victim. She was single at the time, didn't have a permanent job and often went out for a few days. "I wouldn't have been missed for weeks."

It is even more unbelievable at a time when this investigation already appears to be completely devastating: Yes, Madsen had been in Barcelona and returned from there on 14 July, about a month before the crime. Deirdre knows this because she met him when he returned to the Bella Sky Hotel. And he had called from Barcelona several times excitedly, told of businessmen who had paid him a business ticket and ordered a submarine for 2.5 million euros. A sex submarine. Of course, it might as well have been something else. He hadn't said a word about the launch of the rocket.

On March 26, Deirdre Elisabeth King will testify against Peter Madsen in court at 2.45 pm. The subpoena is available to the "NZZ am Sonntag". Also a letter he wrote to her from prison. No more than half A4 page. It says he doesn't get enough visitors and has free time. "There are no words for how happy I would be about your visit," Madsen writes as if nothing had happened. Deirdre has lost her belief that he's innocent. She says,"Kim has lost her life, Peter his, and we all have lost the dream of being part of something bigger."


BBM
 
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She is better looking in the Swiss report...

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https://nzzas.nzz.ch/gesellschaft/t...-auf-der-wirklich-nautilus-geschah-ld.1359748

This is an old photo. These days she looks more like the other photo. I have seen her in some news footage. Guess it is tough dealing with the devil.

I saw another article online a week ago. I didn´t think it was worth posting.
It is about another woman who claims to have been invited to the submarine.
Edit to add, just looked at the article again, it´s some former stripper and 🤬🤬🤬🤬 model who claims to have had a relationship with PM, it´s just jadda, jadda, jadda, not even sure she knew him.

What is this about a whole lot of money, Barcelona, sex submarine and two boats nearby?!
Hoping police will look into that (they will - or already have) - and a possible money trail.
 
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wow, how could this get any worse? I hate people.
 
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Thanks for adding the text! There's no paywall, but you do need to register. I somehow doubt that some Spanish person was about to buy a sex submarine off Madsen for 2.5 million.. It just seems implausible. He doesn't seem to tell the truth much, and maybe he was just trying to impress his girlfriend. With most lies (Madsen's and other people's), there may be some truth. I hope that any strange transactions in Barcelona are discovered soon.
 
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There was an article the other day about a norwegian guy that slept in the submarine 3 days before the murder. He tells about how he percieved PM and how it was to sleep in the submarine:

https://translate.google.com/transl...forsvandt-michael-sov-i-madsens-ubaad/7055345

Apparently, this man came all the way from Norway, with certain expectations that did not quite pan out:

When Peter Madsen left the Rumlaboratorium on Refshale Island around 20.30 hrs, and the Norwegian wanted to go to town to find a hostel, Peter Madsen offered that he could sleep in the submarine.

"There were no others who had to sleep there, so it suited him well," says Michael Youget.

The plan was that they should resume work at nine o'clock next day.

It was a special experience to sleep alone in the submarine.

"You should not be particularly claustrophobic if you are going to sleep there. It's cramped and the air is very bad. In addition, the coverage was so bad that I could barely use my iPad. I just lay on the bench and looked at the fish that swam past. It was a special experience," he says to VG.
(...)

When he reflects on his experience of Peter Madsen and his project in the few hours he spent working with him, it is not unconditionally positive.

"It was all a bit disappointing. I imagined sophisticated technology, but was met by a messy workshop in a tin canopy,"
he says to the Norwegian media, and he describes Peter Madsen himself as frustrated and a little sore (...)


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Sounds like a great place to party ..... :facepalm:
 
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Thanks for adding the text! There's no paywall, but you do need to register. I somehow doubt that some Spanish person was about to buy a sex submarine off Madsen for 2.5 million.. It just seems implausible. He doesn't seem to tell the truth much, and maybe he was just trying to impress his girlfriend. With most lies (Madsen's and other people's), there may be some truth. I hope that any strange transactions in Barcelona are discovered soon.

Snuff film? Did he film KW´s death? He could have exaggerated the amount of money.
What does it even mean, "Sex submarine"?
 
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Snuff film? Did he film KW´s death? He could have exaggerated the amount of money.
What does it even mean, "Sex submarine"?

right?! it is getting worse...
 
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Snuff film? Did he film KW´s death? He could have exaggerated the amount of money.
What does it even mean, "Sex submarine"?

I have believed the whole time that he did film it, because he threw both the phones away. There must have been some trail on those phones that he didnt want anybody to see.
And it is very plausible that he might have sold the film in advance. He might have gotten the idea that he got some kind of moneymachine, which could have been true if he wasnt so stupid to choose the wrong victim and leave tracks all over for what he did.
I am sure of that if he would have gotten away with it, he would probably have done it again.
 
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I have believed the whole time that he did film it, because he threw both the phones away. There must have been some trail on those phones that he didnt want anybody to see.
And it is very plausible that he might have sold the film in advance. He might have gotten the idea that he got some kind of moneymachine, which could have been true if he wasnt so stupid to choose the wrong victim and leave tracks all over for what he did.
I am sure of that if he would have gotten away with it, he would probably have done it again.

Perhaps he did it again. Maybe not in the submarine, but why would this be a first? He hasn't been linked to cases in Denmark, but what if the victim disappeared somewhere else? Europe has open borders and they benefit many, human traffickers included.

LE should take a long and hard look at his finances.
 
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I really don't want to speculate on this. I'm just in doubt that he would have told his girlfriend the truth. I have been looking through blog posts and lectures by Peter Madsen (obviously not about this case, but about his projects) I've been struck by how he doesn't seem to tell the truth a lot of the time - the number of supporters they had in the rocket club, how far along his projects were, how many people wanted to be interns, etc, etc. If you verify by checking financial records, how certain projects went, you'll see that it's habitual, even when there was really no point. Like most people, there's often a grain of truth, the lie is an amplified version, bigger and better. I don't really know how that relates to the Barcelona story, but trying to find out if there is any way of verifying if he actually went. Any top sleuths who know how to get flight details?
 
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I really don't want to speculate on this. I'm just in doubt that he would have told his girlfriend the truth. I have been looking through blog posts and lectures by Peter Madsen (obviously not about this case, but about his projects) I've been struck by how he doesn't seem to tell the truth a lot of the time - the number of supporters they had in the rocket club, how far along his projects were, how many people wanted to be interns, etc, etc. If you verify by checking financial records, how certain projects went, you'll see that it's habitual, even when there was really no point. Like most people, there's often a grain of truth, the lie is an amplified version, bigger and better. I don't really know how that relates to the Barcelona story, but trying to find out if there is any way of verifying if he actually went. Any top sleuths who know how to get flight details?

I wasn't speculating, it may look like that, but what happened was that I opened WS and read out of the blue "He would probably have done it again" and it hit me that all we know with certainty is that this is his LAST murder and we know nothing about the number of times that he wasn't caught.

You write: I've been struck by how he doesn't seem to tell the truth a lot of the time and IMHO there comes a time when the balance tips and you stop believing anything and start questioning everything.


IMHO he googled Kim Wall before he called her, and he called her because she looked prettier and more innocent than Deirdre. She came to audition and got the part, so to speak. The only thing that might have gone wrong would have been if someone had joined her, but I suppose he would have cancelled the trip flat out (just like he did with Michael from Norway) and gone ahead with his original plan. And it would have been bye bye Deirdre


If he went to Barcelona, did he fly? Or take a bus? FLIX-bus is very cheap and anonymous.
 
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If he went to Barcelona, did he fly? Or take a bus? FLIX-bus is very cheap and anonymous.

The article n NZZ says that someone in Barcelona bought him a business class ticket. He was bragging about it to Deidre. Of course it may be untrue, but if anyone knows a way to verify whether or not someone was on a flight from Barcelona to Copenhagen on 14 June 2017, I would be very grateful, I don't know how..
 
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Has anyone even noticed that PM has a namesake in Barcelona, running a tattoo studio by the name Meatshop Tattoo for crying out loud?
 
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Has anyone even noticed that PM has a namesake in Barcelona, running a tattoo studio by the name Meatshop Tattoo for crying out loud?

How very weird. He calls it deviant art, too. I see he (this other PM) posted on 22 August to say a lot had happened lately and he'd moved country, shop etc! However, there is a picture, so at least we know it was never the same man.
 
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Has anyone even noticed that PM has a namesake in Barcelona, running a tattoo studio by the name Meatshop Tattoo for crying out loud?

That's kind of interesting! Though, I sometimes feel sorry for all of the Peter Madsens out there. It's a very common Danish name, there must be thousands.
 
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The article n NZZ says that someone in Barcelona bought him a business class ticket. He was bragging about it to Deidre. Of course it may be untrue, but if anyone knows a way to verify whether or not someone was on a flight from Barcelona to Copenhagen on 14 June 2017, I would be very grateful, I don't know how..

Flight or train.

Somehow I imagine, Peter Madsen being afraid of flying! Very irrational, I just do! HAHAHA
 
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