Details Emerge: Casey/Cindy Fight - Part 3

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm inclined to believe less than half of what is published in NE. The article refers to a "source", so someone was paid for this information. While it doesn't say that Lee was the source of the story, he is mentioned as having been in the Anthony home at the time of said "fight". It wouldn't surprise me if Lee is the source.

As for the SA not mentioning the fight: I believe that they wanted to show Cindy and George in the best light for the jury, i.e. grieving grandparents who are having to deal with that loss and the possible conviction of their daughter for the murder of their beloved Caylee. Baez will want to make Casey's parents look like the dispicable people that she's made them out to be, so he will likely bring up the fight as evidence of the dysfunction in the Anthony home. jmo

 

[kaRN]

I believe the states game changed drastically after they learned of the defense strategy. They made an uneasy alliance with the A's, for now, possibly under threat of prosecution to present their case.
I don't see KCs mental illness as unique and coming from out of the blue, I see it as a combination of nature and nurture. Cindy is right when she said long ago that she and KC were exactly alike and cut from the same cloth. Hopefully now CA will have the insight to see how tattered and worn that cloth is and why she may want to mend it before it tears the way KCs has. GA has been struggling for years. It looks like LA is planning on following in his footsteps. Caylee is dead.
Anyway I believe the state knows better than to push their luck expecting full cooperation with the As in their CIC so they are manipulating the situation to their advantage. The fight if witnessed, will be brought to the juries attention through rebuttal witnesses or cross examining the As themselves during the defense case. I think that's why people like SP and JG have not appeared in the CIC.
Imagine how much stronger the states case will be if SP for example appears right at the end of the Defense case, explaining her belief that KC hated her Mother more than she loved Caylee or YM relaying the statement made by KC that she didn't want to be one of those parents that had a living child out there somewhere, but not knowing where she was. (Exact quote can be found in AZlawyers signature line)
I don't think JBs ego will be able to rest after the state is through. I think ICA will attempt to prolong the trial as long as possible. She's the belle of this ball and absorbing up the attention like a sponge.
If the jury expects forensics to convict, then they have them and the DT couldn't shake them. Now as the defense attempts to manipulate the jury with ICAs tales of woe, each cross can be countered with a witness saying the exact opposite and giving witnessed testimony.
I think the pros will be the stars of the DT case. Just wait and see she says praying.

After this is over. If by chance this turns into an OJ verdict. I'm warning you I'm going to need my friends here to help me pick up the pieces of my shattered glass that used to be half full. I have to believe that good with triumph over evil and that there will be justice here because if not, I'll be shattered.

 

[sweethang]

Cindy's coworkers at the nursing agency said she told them she couldn't afford to take custody of Caylee, meaning the legal fees, etc., I guess.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

snipped from : http://www.nationalenquirer.com/exl...other-cindy-custody-war-caylee-murderous-rage

You will NEVER have Caylee!”

Those were the ominous words monster mom Casey Anthony screamed at her mother Cindy during a furious fight the night before little Caylee Anthony was killed in June 2008, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.


BBM: :waitasec: Instead of calling her "Tot Mom" maybe "someone" should refer to her as "monster mom" ...

 

[ZsaZsa]

I'm inclined to believe less than half of what is published in NE. The article refers to a "source", so someone was paid for this information. While it doesn't say that Lee was the source of the story, he is mentioned as having been in the Anthony home at the time of said "fight". It wouldn't surprise me if Lee is the source.

As for the SA not mentioning the fight: I believe that they wanted to show Cindy and George in the best light for the jury, i.e. grieving grandparents who are having to deal with that loss and the possible conviction of their daughter for the murder of their beloved Caylee. Baez will want to make Casey's parents look like the dispicable people that she's made them out to be, so he will likely bring up the fight as evidence of the dysfunction in the Anthony home. jmo

They don't need to pay a source for this information, it has been out there since we first heard it from JG in 2008.

 

[Anais]

snipped from : http://www.nationalenquirer.com/exl...other-cindy-custody-war-caylee-murderous-rage

You will NEVER have Caylee!”

Those were the ominous words monster mom Casey Anthony screamed at her mother Cindy during a furious fight the night before little Caylee Anthony was killed in June 2008, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.


BBM: :waitasec: Instead of calling her "Tot Mom" maybe "someone" should refer to her as "monster mom" ...

DGC so utterly sad, but true because this is what precious Caylee contended with her entire short life! :banghead:

 

[marlap]

Yea, I don't understand why we're not hearing about Cindy's attempts to take Caylee away from Casey and Cindy's constant threats to her about it.

Hopefully we'll hear it at some point.

I think because CA didn't bring it up when she described the night before when she, ICA, and Caylee watched the video from the nursing home and how sweet it was, etc.

I think CA wants to save ICA's life and lessen the aggravating circumstances and didn't want to bring up the fight. The prosecution bringing up that fight would contradict their own witness's testimony about that night.

I think the prosecution showed the jury that ICA wanted to party and be free in many other ways.

 

[Lacyanna]

Argh!! This website is NOT available in my area!! :banghead:

I moved from California two years ago to England and these sorts of things irk me to no END!!!!


Anyone know how I can read this??

I will owe you tea and a crumpet. :seeya:

:innocent:

 

[kaRN]

Cindy's coworkers at the nursing agency said she told them she couldn't afford to take custody of Caylee, meaning the legal fees, etc., I guess.

Scary priorities considering her EAP probably has a legal component and she does have credit. How much money do you need to sue a homeless indigent for custody of a child they haven't contributed a cent towards supporting since her birth and that you have physical custody of?

My family would have all chipped in to protect our child at risk if money was the issue. Actually what am I talking about, CA the RN is liable for not taking action to protect Caylee. Money is irrelevant. :banghead::banghead::banghead: And all her coworkers whom she confided in had a responsibility to report Cindy if Cindy didn't report her suspicions of abuse or neglect of a child.

They all failed. I wonder when Gentiva renews their accreditation? It will be my new job to find out and provide the accreditation folks some feedback and maybe save a life.

 

[downport]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

 

[tehcloser]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

Well, what I saw was CA sticking to what she had already said to avoid perjury charges. Anything that has been "hurled" at CA, IMO - she asked for it.

 

[Quiche]

Well, what I saw was CA sticking to what she had already said to avoid perjury charges. Anything that has been "hurled" at CA, IMO - she asked for it.

Yes, and unless the prosecutor asks her pointedly, she's not to go there. But, don't worry, Jose will go there, you bet. jmo

 

[ZsaZsa]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

Everyone of us had the utmost compassion for CA until all of her lies, obstruction of this investigation started. It was obvious that she was betraying that helpless little child in order to protect her sociopath daughter.
Then she reaped what she sowed..
Like ICA, we don't know for sure that anything she says is the truth. If she told me it was raining I'd look outside.

 

[kaRN]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

I/we need links to your proof. Period. End of story. That's how it works here.

 

[KMouse]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

If you have followed this case closely since day one then you would know there is way more to the story that Cindy, George, and Lee presented on the stand.

There are two versions of events, the one that was presented in the courts and in statements all these years and the other that that includes the temultuous family dynamics. The jury has heard one so far. Not sure if they will hear the other stuff because it is hearsay. None of the Anthonys are going to ante up. According to all of them life was rosy.

The state has nothing to do with any conspiracy. If there is any conspiracy there is an Anthony family conspiracy to save Casey from prosection and possibly the death penalty.

Did you watch the ZFG depostions? Did you see Cindy?

 

[angelmom]

I'm inclined to believe less than half of what is published in NE. The article refers to a "source", so someone was paid for this information. While it doesn't say that Lee was the source of the story, he is mentioned as having been in the Anthony home at the time of said "fight". It wouldn't surprise me if Lee is the source.

As for the SA not mentioning the fight: I believe that they wanted to show Cindy and George in the best light for the jury, i.e. grieving grandparents who are having to deal with that loss and the possible conviction of their daughter for the murder of their beloved Caylee. Baez will want to make Casey's parents look like the dispicable people that she's made them out to be, so he will likely bring up the fight as evidence of the dysfunction in the Anthony home. jmo

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

You know, I'm not sure if I even believe there was a fight either. I think that came straight from Lenny, and we know that his track record hasn't exactly been stellar. He makes up some WHOPPERS. I think this article came straight from him. (PS...did you hear him last night saying that GA will get on the stand during the defense case and change his whole story and admit the drowning? Puh - leeeeze! If that happens I will give up sleuthing. No, not really. But I'll be shocked.)

I think it's interesting that the original story, IIRC, didn't include Lee. Lee had been told about it and then told someone else (LP?). Now I need to go look it up. We have never had an ounce of confirmation about it from any credible source. I think if it were real, the defense might use it to show why Casey was so afraid of telling her mother the truth b/c it would just be confirmation of what a crappy mother she was. But neither side has mentioned it, and none of the witnesses have even alluded to it.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

There was no "fight" between the defendant & Cindy Anthony on 6/15/08. Period, end of story.
Cindy Anthony, the STATES witness, has testified to the events of 6/15/08. Her testimony was the truth. Period, end of story.
To believe otherwise, means the State themselves is part of some fantastical conspiracy to aid Cindy Anthony & protect her against the vicious slurs continualy hurled at her.
My Goodness, this woman is a victim caught in a nightmare. Leave her to her grief already & try to remember this tragedy is HER grief, not ours. To do otherwise means one has the same lack of empathy & compassion for others that Casey Anthony herself is guilty of.

I find it very hard to put end of story or the truth in the same sentence with Cindy and testimony in it.

There is nobody believing there is some fantastical conspiracy, the state just has to go with the most truthful testimony Cindy has given that will stand up in court and help them get a conviction.

Remember also a big part of Cindy's grief right now is for her daughter and the outcome of the trial and not for Caylee.

 

[ZsaZsa]

You know, I'm not sure if I even believe there was a fight either. I think that came straight from Lenny, and we know that his track record hasn't exactly been stellar. He makes up some WHOPPERS. I think this article came straight from him. (PS...did you hear him last night saying that GA will get on the stand during the defense case and change his whole story and admit the drowning? Puh - leeeeze! If that happens I will give up sleuthing. No, not really. But I'll be shocked.)

I think it's interesting that the original story, IIRC, didn't include Lee. Lee had been told about it and then told someone else (LP?). Now I need to go look it up. We have never had an ounce of confirmation about it from any credible source. I think if it were real, the defense might use it to show why Casey was so afraid of telling her mother the truth b/c it would just be confirmation of what a crappy mother she was. But neither side has mentioned it, and none of the witnesses have even alluded to it.

I think we learned it first from JG, who was told of the fight by LA...

 

[KMouse]

Yes, and unless the prosecutor asks her pointedly, she's not to go there. But, don't worry, Jose will go there, you bet. jmo

JB will go there with George for sure. George is going to be made out to be a creep who molests his daughter, has family financial secrets, has affairs, and has a bad temper.
Plus he had an extra set of keys to the car so he must be evil.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

You know, I'm not sure if I even believe there was a fight either. I think that came straight from Lenny, and we know that his track record hasn't exactly been stellar. He makes up some WHOPPERS. I think this article came straight from him. (PS...did you hear him last night saying that GA will get on the stand during the defense case and change his whole story and admit the drowning? Puh - leeeeze! If that happens I will give up sleuthing. No, not really. But I'll be shocked.)

I think it's interesting that the original story, IIRC, didn't include Lee. Lee had been told about it and then told someone else (LP?). Now I need to go look it up. We have never had an ounce of confirmation about it from any credible source. I think if it were real, the defense might use it to show why Casey was so afraid of telling her mother the truth b/c it would just be confirmation of what a crappy mother she was. But neither side has mentioned it, and none of the witnesses have even alluded to it.

While I happen to personally think that a blowout did occur between Cindy & Casey that evening precipatating Casey killing Caylee, I obviously don't know this but I'm not surprised in the least that the DT hasn't (and/or won't...) brought it up as it could hurt Casey more than help her by pointing to a motive (showing outrage at her mother for threats to get custody of Caylee...) for Casey killing Caylee.