Did Casey want to get caught? (Opinion thread)

[archenemy toenail]

I don't know that Casey necessarily WANTED to get caught, but I have wondered if she simply just DIDN'T CARE. The lifestyle that she was living in the several YEARS leading up to Caylee's demise was unsustainable. Her made up job, stealing from her friends and family, stringing her friends along with lies, and so on couldn't go on forever. She didn't even have a high school diploma, so she wasn't going to be able to get any kind of job that would pay her enough to care for Caylee without the help of her parents. In one of (I think) JG's interviews, he says that CA would belittle her in front of him with remarks about things like her menial job. I wonder if what is at the root of Casey's narcissism is a feeling that she is incapable of completing even the simplest tasks or making even the easiest decisions, and she was watching her friends grow up, work full-time, graduate from college, maintain mature and HONEST relationships, and basically starting their lives and working toward their dreams while meanwhile she's trapped in her parents' home with no prospects and not enough self-esteem to work towards any and a personality disorder that will not allow her to develop any genuine self-esteem. The tensions between her and her family were mounting; she was truly on a road to nowhere. I wonder if she didn't kill Caylee just to end it all and didn't care what happened next.

 

[pip]

I don't know that Casey necessarily WANTED to get caught, but I have wondered if she simply just DIDN'T CARE. The lifestyle that she was living in the several YEARS leading up to Caylee's demise was unsustainable. Her made up job, stealing from her friends and family, stringing her friends along with lies, and so on couldn't go on forever. She didn't even have a high school diploma, so she wasn't going to be able to get any kind of job that would pay her enough to care for Caylee without the help of her parents. In one of (I think) JG's interviews, he says that CA would belittle her in front of him with remarks about things like her menial job. I wonder if what is at the root of Casey's narcissism is a feeling that she is incapable of completing even the simplest tasks or making even the easiest decisions, and she was watching her friends grow up, work full-time, graduate from college, maintain mature and HONEST relationships, and basically starting their lives and working toward their dreams while meanwhile she's trapped in her parents' home with no prospects and not enough self-esteem to work towards any and a personality disorder that will not allow her to develop any genuine self-esteem. The tensions between her and her family were mounting; she was truly on a road to nowhere. I wonder if she didn't kill Caylee just to end it all and didn't care what happened next.

You may be right. Reckless abandonment. Hoping the ends justified the means, but made little effort to cover her trail. Poor choice for disposal site and method, waiting too long to dispose of the body, leaving the smelly car. She never even left Orlando!

 

[txsvicki]

I don't think Casey wanted to get caught, but did not follow thru with a carjacking plot. She may have abandoned the car hoping that it would be stolen and then abandoned again, so that she could go thru with the plan after disappearing a few days or weeks herself. The smell in the car must have messed up her plans because she'd have to explain the decomp odor. I've always suspected or wondered if the flurry of phone calls to both George and Cindy were an attempt to fake a carjacking or kidnapping of Caylee before she ever left the home or started out in the vehicle. No repsonse from them may have caused her to hide a deceased Caylee somewhere or leave her in the trunk resulting in the odor.

 

[butterfly1978]

OMG, thank you guys for these excellent posts! This has been a great discussion thread, and has left many ideas to be discussed. I appreciate this great discussion and even though many of us have different opinions we are all respectful and thinking about the case on different levels. Wonderful. I have so much to respond to but Im just catching up on reading tonight, been at the ballpark ALL DAY LONG, will wait to respond tomorrow. But EXCELLENT responses

 

[SevenSeas]

Oh my goodness! What excellent posts about this very intriguing question! Me? I say no, and to echo quite a few...

She never planned beyond her nose, or the next BF, beer bong partay.... I've never seen someone, seemingly okay, but who just did'nt get it, when it came to being an actual Mom. Seriously, All the while believing that EVERYBODY would take her for her word, as CA & GA did always...Until THIS.

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Justice for Sweet Caylee is on the way...

 

[txsvicki]

Casey did do quite a bit of plotting and planning though. She probably did quite a bit, but we only know of a few. There was the supposed mugging and theft of money at the ATM, the neighbor who sat for free and later found out that Casey wasn't even working, figuring out how to do the routing numbers on the grandma's checks, and telling her parents that she worked nights at Sport's Authority. Quite a bit of planning figuring out how to not work, get money, and not be tied down all the time with a child. There's probably loads that we don't know like needing money for medical expenses, classes that she claimed to be taking, things she had Caylee enrolled in, credit cards taken out in Cindy's name, etc.

 

[butterfly1978]

Casey did do quite a bit of plotting and planning though. She probably did quite a bit, but we only know of a few. There was the supposed mugging and theft of money at the ATM, the neighbor who sat for free and later found out that Casey wasn't even working, figuring out how to do the routing numbers on the grandma's checks, and telling her parents that she worked nights at Sport's Authority. Quite a bit of planning figuring out how to not work, get money, and not be tied down all the time with a child. There's probably loads that we don't know like needing money for medical expenses, classes that she claimed to be taking, things she had Caylee enrolled in, credit cards taken out in Cindy's name, etc.

See that is what I'm thinking as well, everyone keeps saying that she never thought ahead yet she did, she convinced everyone for years she was working even came up with the nanny story, that takes planning. If she did drug Caylee than she had to have planned ahead of time well I'm going to be gone and I can't just leave her locked in a car were someone would see her or hear her, I have to drug her for this party or whatever. She planned far enough in advance to dump Caylee's body and realized she couldn't carry her around... Also in the letter she is talking about all her plans when she gets out, so she does plann ahead.... Now I didn't say they were good plans but she did plan ahead.

 

[cyberborg]

Another interesting thing you made me think of is, even though yes, she was caught and has been in jail, she's still getting away with it in a way. She wasn't just thrown in jail like a common criminal - she was bailed out for 50k, got house arrest, private body guards, (attention), media camped out in front of the house, etc - then she goes back to jail and gets more special treatment - a team of expensive lawyers and experts visiting her, special treatment from the guards and some new BFF's.

I can't imagine being in jail is fun for her, but she's still getting special treatment and thriving in her own limited way. Plus, for one of the first times in her life, something 'real' has happened and she's living it.

Excellent point!!!

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Until and unless that special treatment runs out KC won't ever change ... if she gets the DP then she'll get automatic appeals and special treatment for up to 20 years! KC will fit this into being special.