Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #1

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  • #401
Wow. The foreman wrote the note to the judge that the one juror would not deliberate. He shared the note with that juror. The juror also wrote an note to the judge, which she wouldn't share. JSS is not a judge!

To be fair - I agree the whole thing sucks big time - if this juror wrote a note to the judge saying that she was willing to deliberate but most of the others immediately started browbeating her, then the judge would have to go with that regardless of whether it was true or not right?
 
  • #402
AZLawyer,

I also posted a transcription upthread of an interview on The Daily Share on HLN

If the "Holdout" juror also did not disclose prior knowledge of the case during Voir Dire, and/or otherwise misrepresented herself, which sounds like a stealth juror to me, does the State have any recourse?

TIA......


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No, this was their last try for the DP. At least this juror was only on the sentencing phase and not the guilt phase.
 
  • #403
The alternates in both penalty trials would have voted for death. Just.one.holdout.
 
  • #404
To me the most shocking is that the stealth juror watched the Lifetime movie. That should have been cause for dismissal. Did JSS and Juan know about this???

They would have - if JSS had talked to them!
 
  • #405
They liked juan!
 
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  • #407
Wow, these jurors really got it.


They even had nightmares. :(

They liked Juan .
 
  • #408
To me the most shocking is that the stealth juror watched the Lifetime movie. That should have been cause for dismissal. Did JSS and Juan know about this???

The jury wrote note to judge and informed her.
 
  • #409
I have such empathy for these jurors participating in this interview.

:rose:
 
  • #410
Except the DV was made up. A true DV victim would recognize that
That's not necessarily true though and I expressed my concern about that a few days ago. I said it would be determined by her and her alone - as in, how far she is in her recovery, how much she's educated herself about how abuse occurs, etc. In the first trial, there were a few people here who had a history of domestic violence that were drawing parallels between their experiences and Jodi's claims. Seriously, it's a wonder my keyboard survived some of my 'smashed-out' responses through clenched teeth.

I've actually seen it in my volunteer work too - there are survivors who absolutely believe all those claiming victimization should be automatically believed regardless of circumstances. To them, it's just not something people would lie over experiencing. To go a step further, some survivors also feel if a man is victimized, then they must have done something to deserve it. Not saying this is the case, but it is something I've witnessed that left my heart hurting and my head shaking. Some survivors stay victims steeped in denial and nothing can sway them towards insight.

JMO and FWIW
 
  • #411
Travis' autopsy photos had a huge effect on them, they only considered them at the end. Alternate, painful that he didn't fully participate in the process.

Felt Juan was abrasive at the beginning, but then they warmed up to him, grew to like him quickly and looked forward to hear from him. It was a lot to take in at first but he drove it home at the end.

Crockpot was Chili, lol
 
  • #412
Someone asking about the crockpot! :P Chili!
 
  • #413
HA there was chili in the crock pot!
 
  • #414
The alternates in both penalty trials would have voted for death. Just.one.holdout.
OMG!!!! This makes me more angry at this woman. First OJ, then Michael Jackson, then Casey Anthony, now this. All travesties of Justice. I'm so sorry Alexander family.
 
  • #415
it was chilli in the crockpot !!! :floorlaugh:
 
  • #416
Hahahhahah. I called it, CHILI
 
  • #417
Juan did such a good job. He cannot in any be blamed for this. They liked him, looked forward to him and felt he really drove it home.
 
  • #418
I guess we can say 11 jurors did their job. I really hope those involved with "Travis' Law" include some type of charge brought against a juror who lies.

Plus the alternates. All 3 are articulate and said they would have been able to come to consensus. This stealth hold out juror should have been removed. There appears to be enough info. JSS screwed up, IMHO. I agree if this woman lied, deceived, but that is what judges are for, the make sure they are off if they are revealed to be inappropriate and the jury told JSS. Oh well, sure is a relief to hear them and fascinating.
 
  • #419
Aw. They are the crockpot jury. :)
 
  • #420
Ha, it was chili in the crock pot :)
 
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