DNA Doe Project - General Discussion #2

[JovanSrna]

Is NamUs currently down?

It was for me.

 

[doggybag2355]

It was for me.

Okay I wasn’t sure if it was the site or my computer, I like to check to see if any cases for the DDP have more information or are taken down

 

[djanga]

New update on Gregg co Jane Doe 2002 (TX):

Ongoing genealogy work by the DNA Doe Project reveals she may have relatives in Raleigh County, #WestVirginia. Other areas of interest are Patrick County, #Virginia and Surry County, #NorthCarolina. Surnames of interest include Bowman, Niten/Knighton, Grey and Jessup.

 

[doggybag2355]

I hope pending cases start to get more activity soon with restrictions easing back.

 

[djanga]

I hope pending cases start to get more activity soon with restrictions easing back.

The same for the new announcements, at least of 5 cases left from 2020.

 

[djanga]

Actually according to the new article about Gregg co JD:
The DNA Doe Project has helped identify more than 50 Jane and John Does in more than 70 cases.

National non-profit helps to identify human remains found in Gregg County almost 20 years ago

 

[ntt1]

Pulaski JD identified! Seems that she has been solved since December 2019 but legal confirmation only came this month.

Pulaski County (Mo.) detectives identify woman considered “Jane Doe” since death in 1981

Actually according to the new article about Gregg co JD:
The DNA Doe Project has helped identify more than 50 Jane and John Does in more than 70 cases.

National non-profit helps to identify human remains found in Gregg County almost 20 years ago

It's kind of fun to follow along with this stat as it is reported in multiple articles. Given how the Gacy victim 5 and Rohnert Park JD were just announced as active cases, I wonder how many more there are that are unannounced and/or solved already.

 

[djanga]

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[djanga]

Pulaski JD identified! Seems that she has been solved since December 2019 but legal confirmation only came this month.

Pulaski County (Mo.) detectives identify woman considered “Jane Doe” since death in 1981

It's kind of fun to follow along with this stat as it is reported in multiple articles. Given how the Gacy victim 5 and Rohnert Park JD were just announced as active cases, I wonder how many more there are that are unannounced and/or solved already.

Amazing news! We all hoped she had been identified but was pending announcement, actually the confirmation was made via CODIS, I wonder why they did not compare her DNA to her brother's DNA directly.

Agree! Probably some LEs are more discreet that others, I think Othram also had cases where their involvement was confirmed only after the official announcements.

 

[doggybag2355]

The same for the new announcements, at least of 5 cases left from 2020.

Make that 4-ish!

 

[othram]

Amazing news! We all hoped she had been identified but was pending announcement, actually the confirmation was made via CODIS, I wonder why they did not compare her DNA to her brother's DNA directly.

Agree! Probably some LEs are more discreet that others, I think Othram also had cases where their involvement was confirmed only after the official announcements.

Yes, we don't confirm any details (including our involvement) unless we have explicit permission from LE and as you note, every agency is different, so we try to do whatever makes the agency most comfortable.

 

[djanga]

Make that 4-ish!

Fingers crossed Nation River Lady is next! I would also like to see Delafield JD to be identified but his numbers are not so good.

 

[ntt1]

Fingers crossed Nation River Lady is next! I would also like to see Delafield JD to be identified but his numbers are not so good.

I hope so too. I think we have yet to have an (announced) Canadian UID case solved via genetic genealogy here.

 

[doggybag2355]

I hope so too. I think we have yet to have an (announced) Canadian UID case solved via genetic genealogy here.

I have good feelings for NRL, Allegan County Jane Doe, Marion County John Doe (Ohio) and Mowry Wetlands Jane Doe

 

[djanga]

I hope so too. I think we have yet to have an (announced) Canadian UID case solved via genetic genealogy here.

Nation River Lady can be the first one identified and there are other cases taken by forensic genealogy companies. I read about at least 3 Canadian cases taken by different forensic genealogy companies in 2021:

1. Bowmanville Jane Doe by DDP (it is their third Canadian case)
2. Whitehorse Yukon John Doe by Othram
3. Babes in the Wood (Vancouver, British Columbia) by Redgrave Research

Any other cases taken by other companies? Are there local forensic genealogists in Canada? May be it is not public by some cases are being worked by locals?

 

[ntt1]

Nation River Lady can be the first one identified and there are other cases taken by forensic genealogy companies. I read about at least 3 Canadian cases taken by different forensic genealogy companies in 2021:

1. Bowmanville Jane Doe by DDP (it is their third Canadian case)
2. Whitehorse Yukon John Doe by Othram
3. Babes in the Wood (Vancouver, British Columbia) by Redgrave Research

Any other cases taken by other companies? Are there local forensic genealogists in Canada? May be it is not public by some cases are being worked by locals?

The interesting thing is that apparently there is an Ancient/Paleo-DNA lab that does extraction at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, which was used for the Babes in the Wood, according to the press conference. I wonder if we might see more cases being sent there if that is eventually successful. Hopefully there may be some unannounced cases being worked by Othram, Identifinders, Parabon as well or in the DDP pipeline.

There was a film production company that produced a documentary detailing the exhumation of this UID (caution PM pic: Albert Johnson (criminal) - Wikipedia) back in the 2000s - late last year they had a page up suggesting they were doing FGG with Othram, but it's doesn't seem to be up anymore. It is a pretty intriguing (almost legendary in some areas) case that I'd love to see solved. And then there is Septic Tank Sam in Alberta; I wouldn't be surprised if that one is getting worked on already.

 

[doggybag2355]

Nation River Lady can be the first one identified and there are other cases taken by forensic genealogy companies. I read about at least 3 Canadian cases taken by different forensic genealogy companies in 2021:

1. Bowmanville Jane Doe by DDP (it is their third Canadian case)
2. Whitehorse Yukon John Doe by Othram
3. Babes in the Wood (Vancouver, British Columbia) by Redgrave Research

Any other cases taken by other companies? Are there local forensic genealogists in Canada? May be it is not public by some cases are being worked by locals?

I'm pretty sure Parabon is working a Canadian case, but I can't remember which one. I wonder if any company might try to take cases from Europe, like Germany or the UK, or Australia.

 

[ntt1]

I'm pretty sure Parabon is working a Canadian case, but I can't remember which one. I wonder if any company might try to take cases from Europe, like Germany or the UK, or Australia.

I think they've assisted in a few baby Doe cases, in Ontario, Calgary and Saskatchewan.

 

[doggybag2355]

I'm pretty sure Parabon is working a Canadian case, but I can't remember which one. I wonder if any company might try to take cases from Europe, like Germany or the UK, or Australia.

Oh the case they're doing for Canada is a POI case.

They're actually doing another POI case for Sweden.

 

[JovanSrna]

Pulaski Co Jane Doe - DNA Doe Project Cases
Read the last lines. Another Doe from Pulaski County, Missouri will undergo genetic genealogy.