DNA Doe Project - General Discussion

[leilarose68]

Apache Junction police have been trying to solve a 28-year-old cold case and mystery

DNA Doe Project works to identify Apache Junction Jane Doe

More details from the media push DDP is doing for Apache Jane Doe:

AJJD was half black and hispanic and might have African American connections to Virginia in Pittsylvania and Halifax counties, Pima county, Southern California, Bexar Texas and New Mexico.

Her Mexican connections might be in Nuevo Leon, Sinora Sinoloa, Jalisco and Tamau-Lipas, and Baja Peninsula.

Possible surname connections in Virginia:
Chandler, Dixon, Graves, Lovelace, Patrick

Names connected to Mexico and the southwestern US:
Alvarez, Aros, Chavez, Garza, Gurerra, Haro, Molina, Parra, Solis, Sokto, Villegas

 

[doggybag2355]

Has the DDP made any announcement about Alachua County John Doe? I know he's listed as on hold according to their facebook, most likely due to failing 4-5 sequencing attempts, but I wasn't sure if they had made any official announcements.

 

[djanga]

Has the DDP made any announcement about Alachua County John Doe? I know he's listed as on hold according to their facebook, most likely due to failing 4-5 sequencing attempts, but I wasn't sure if they had made any official announcements.

The last news I saw in regards to Alachua co John Doe was a year ago, when Anthony Redgrave was a case manager/team leader for this case and gave this interview:
Searching for answers for UP5286

 

[Susikatze]

Sorry for bumping that up, but I agree on that. I believe both are Ashkenazi or of substantial Ashkenazi descent. It would also explain why they have so many matches (due to endogamy) but few close matches. Characteristic for Ashkenazi Jewish populations. My husband is fully Ashkenazi (I am only partially) and his Gedmatch looks almost identical to Jonesport JD and Kern JD 2011.

KCJD 2011 also had a scar from breast cancer surgery. While of course, breast cancer is affecting non Jews as well, it is very prevalent in some Ashkenazi Jewish populations.

Jonespot John Doe and Kern county Jane Doe (2011) have similar admixture charts with one third of Eastern Mediterranean, which can be Jewish (Jonespot John Doe is listed in Doe network as possibly Jewish). I wonder if it can also be Greek, Cyprus, Turkey.

 

[djanga]

DDP has a new case Camp fire victims (Paradise, California, 2018). It is a bit confusing though if more than one victim is still unidentified. Interestingly, it is mentioned that DDP is working on these cases from January 2019 and had helped to identify several of the victims.
Camp Fire Victims 2018 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[doggybag2355]

DDP has a new case Camp fire victims (Paradise, California, 2018). It is a bit confusing though if more than one victim is still unidentified. Interestingly, it is mentioned that DDP is working on these cases from January 2019 and had helped to identify several of the victims.
Camp Fire Victims 2018 - DNA Doe Project Cases

I have to wonder if the dozen or so UID's that haven't been announced are Camp Fire victims

 

[djanga]

I have to wonder if t dozen or so UID's that haven't been announced are Camp Fire victims

I don’t know if a dozen, but may be a few of them. But also in one of the articles dated June 2019 it says that only two victims are still unidentified, so if I understand it correctly other victims were identified before June 2019.

 

[doggybag2355]

Broadway Phoenix Jane Doe has had a HUGE leap and is now sitting at 371.3! I'd expect an ID soon.

 

[shadowdancer]

Broadway Phoenix Jane Doe has had a HUGE leap and is now sitting at 371.3! I'd expect an ID soon.

Thats awesome! It also gives us hope for all of our does, that a close family match could join the database at any time.

So what sort of relative would this match be? A first cousin? Second cousin?

 

[PayrollNerd]

Thats awesome! It also gives us hope for all of our does, that a close family match could join the database at any time.

So what sort of relative would this match be? A first cousin? Second cousin?

Lots of options. I have 1/2 siblings who’s children land in the 350-450 range along with a 1/2 First Cousin.

Shared cM Project 4.0 Tool v4 with relationship probabilities

 

[doggybag2355]

Chattanooga John Doe has also had a jump to 99.3 from 56.8

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Thats awesome! It also gives us hope for all of our does, that a close family match could join the database at any time.

So what sort of relative would this match be? A first cousin? Second cousin?

I took a look at my matches on Ancestry. I don't have anything exactly in that 371 range but the numbers just above that and just below that level indicate it's likely somewhere between first and third cousin:

Shared DNA: 406 cM across 13 segments -- 1st–2nd Cousin
Shared DNA: 403 cM across 18 segments -- 1st–2nd Cousin

Shared DNA: 301 cM across 13 segments -- 2nd–3rd Cousin
Shared DNA: 294 cM across 17 segments -- 2nd–3rd Cousin

 

[doggybag2355]

Anthony Redgrave has posted an update to the r/unresolvedmysteries subreddit, regarding the currently tentatively identified Pillar Point Doe.

TDOR 2020: On November 26, 1983, the violently beaten body of a young AMAB adult in female attire was found on the beach at Half Moon Bay, likely a victim of a hate crime. They remained unidentified for nearly 36 years. What happened to Pillar Point Doe? (Identified October 2019) : UnresolvedMysteries

It seems that they may have been of Mormon descent

 

[djanga]

Interestingly, Doe Network has added Harper Jane Doe, MI to closed cases:
“1207UFMI, discovered on February 10, 1987 in Detroit, Michigan has been identified per NamUs. No further information is available”

 

[CCJD]

Interestingly, Doe Network has added Harper Jane Doe, MI to closed cases:
“1207UFMI, discovered on February 10, 1987 in Detroit, Michigan has been identified per NamUs. No further information is available”

Was it a DDP identification? Just wondering since this thread is a DDP thread.

 

[doggybag2355]

Was it a DDP identification? Just wondering since this thread is a DDP thread.

They've made a tentative identification that hasn't been proven by law enforcement yet.

 

[doggybag2355]

Maury County Jane Doe 1975 is now a DDP funded case.

Maury County Jane Doe 1975 - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[doggybag2355]

They've made a tentative identification that hasn't been proven by law enforcement yet.

Sorry I totally misread. And no official announcement has been made yet, but her NamUs and NCMEC pages have been down since June.

 

[djanga]

Was it a DDP identification? Just wondering since this thread is a DDP thread.

No, unfortunately, but her NAMUS was removed in June. People were discussing that she had been identified for half a year already. Some people think that the announcement was not done yet because of pandemic and restrictions

 

[DNA_Sleuth]

Thats awesome! It also gives us hope for all of our does, that a close family match could join the database at any time.

So what sort of relative would this match be? A first cousin? Second cousin?

Sorry to have given every one false hope with the new numbers on the DNADoeProject #s page. . . that case is highly endogamous. :-(
But it sure is nice to know we have a little hope.