Do we have any verified SAR folks here?

[sarx]

Our protocol was always to mark everything. If it was likely not related then it would go down on the sheet, coords marked and flagged (with either tape or actual little flags).
If it was "possibly" related we would do all of that and call it in.
If it was likely related then of course it was handled with urgency.

ETA:- I have assisted in other searches for other jurisdictions where they did not follow this same protocol, so it really depends on where you are and what agency you're talking about. Some areas are not as highly trained and systematic as others.

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

Our protocol was always to mark everything. If it was likely not related then it would go down on the sheet, coords marked and flagged (with either tape or actual little flags).
If it was "possibly" related we would do all of that and call it in.
If it was likely related then of course it was handled with urgency.

ETA:- I have assisted in other searches for other jurisdictions where they did not follow this same protocol, so it really depends on where you are and what agency you're talking about. Some areas are not as highly trained and systematic as others.

We mark everything with an actual flag- flag colors differentiate between possible items of interest, as well as entire areas of interest. For example, a site that appears like a person or persons camped at- there might be bottles, ashes, trash, articles of clothing- anything like that- we flag the entire area, and then individually any items that might be of particular interest. If it is an area designated by LE specifically, we flag like crazy, mark on the topo, register on the GPS and document on paper as well. So the flagging and the paperwork/GPS should be identical.

Ditto for areas 'cleared'. That means we're looking for something specific, and that item was not found in the cleared area. It's marked on paper, with a flag, and as GPS coordinates.

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

sarx... I was going to ask you about cell phone sniffer dogs... I actually found this article on them... what is your thought on these type of dogs? Is this training common?

The problem has not risen to those levels in Rhode Island, where about a half-dozen of the devices have been found on prisoners in the past two years or so. Besides instituting search protocols and policies, the Department of Corrections has spent thousands of dollars to acquire and train special European police dogs that can scour prison cells, hallways and cafeterias for marijuana, cocaine, heroin and … cell phones.

Robbie, a Belgian Malinois owned by the corrections department, is the department’s designated cell phone dog. He initially was brought in to sniff out drugs, but with extra training was taught to find cell phones as well.
Prisons across the country are using dogs to find illicit electronics.

http://www.projo.com/news/content/PRISON_CELLS_07-12-10_B4IA8P9_v76.19147df.html


ETA: I am asking this after BM's comment about the search possibly being for a cell phone (he is a talking head/retired from the MCSO)

I'm thinking Robbie (or any of his related cousins) are not out in OR wading through brush for a cell phone... cause Malinois DO get poison ivy...

 

[palladore]

The decal on the vehicle in Freef's excellent photos is for North Oregon Search and Rescue.

The dog doesn't, to me, look quite like any pictured on their web page.

http://www.norsar911.org/dogteams.html

 

[sarx]

The decal on the vehicle in Freef's excellent photos is for North Oregon Search and Rescue.

The dog doesn't, to me, look quite like any pictured on their web page.

http://www.norsar911.org/dogteams.html

I am pretty sure that the handler is Scott and the dog is Lopez. Also fits with the qualifications.

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

The decal on the vehicle in Freef's excellent photos is for North Oregon Search and Rescue.

The dog doesn't, to me, look quite like any pictured on their web page.

http://www.norsar911.org/dogteams.html

I think it might be Lopez again?
ETA: sorry sarx I think we were answering at the same time, lol

 

[nursebeeme]

what does Lopez do/trained to do? tia

 

[sarx]

Human Remains Detection
Add to that airscent and water detection

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

Human Remains Detection
Add to that airscent and water detection

Correct..... seems like they have called out a few cross certified dogs specifically. They seem to want the up down and all around dogs.

I don't know why, but I was thinking Lopez was a female. :waitasec:
Does WA have a female Lopez?

 

[6angels]

human remains detection
add to that airscent and water detection

 

[LNL]

I am pretty sure that the handler is Scott and the dog is Lopez. Also fits with the qualifications.

I agree. I think they are a pretty close match to the picture.

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

I agree. I think they are a pretty close match to the picture.

Ja. That's Lopez.
You can compare to the water search pics from the first Sauvie Island search.

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

I thought it was Lopez at first, but he has droopy jowels in the website photo - could be that he has his head extended in freef's photos. Also thought the handler looked older than Scott. But I'm bad with faces. Can you provide link to the Sauvie Island photo?

At least one SAR team has been activated for 6/19/10 (merged)

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Pacific North West Search and Rescue had been released from duty with all the other SAR teams on Sunday, but they've been activated again for Saturday for the Kyron search.

The announcement on their webpage reads:

PNW Group Training Cancelled this Saturday !
Submitted by Dave Xxxxxx on Wed, 06/16/2010 - 8:01pm.

We have been activated for a mission this Saturday (6/19). Apologies to those new folks that were planning to attend our monthly training.. We'll see you at the next meeting.


The North Oregon Regional SAR group has also been involved in the search. They have a cadaver/water recovery dog named Lopez who's been on the sheriff's boat this week, searching the waterways around Sauvie Island.

Here's a photo of Lopez in action. PHOTO
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kyron horman case map

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

ETA: dont know why that pic won't come through- hold on and I'll cut and paste....

 

[JustToSeeYouSmile]

For some reason I can't link that pic, but here is Lopez:

http://www.sarworld.org/articles/article-archive/124-photo-competition-winner

You can see it's the same dog and same handler.