Does Anyone here think Casey Anthony is innocent?

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the pool thing, yes, tragic accident except that according to CA and GA that pool ladder was never left at the pool and I doubt Caylee could have moved it herself, so where was mom and how did the ladder get by the pool so Caylee could fall into it?

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If there really was a big blow out between CA and KC during the previous evening, and if they had all been swimming before that as CA claims then it's possible that they were both too distracted/distressed/angry to remember the pool ladder.

'Mom, you don't know what my involvement is in stuff?'
 
Well, there was no phone call on July 15th around noon from Caylee or anyone else. So, "the Nanny" wasn't tricking KC with a video voice of the baby. KC just lied. Plain and simple.
 
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If there really was a big blow out between CA and KC during the previous evening, and if they had all been swimming before that as CA claims then it's possible that they were both too distracted/distressed/angry to remember the pool ladder.

'Mom, you don't know what my involvement is in stuff?'

I agree about the ladder but I believe that the family still claims that the ladder was always put away.

When was it that CA said that they found the ladder not where it was supposed to be and the gate unlocked? Was that before or after Caylee went missing? I am pretty sure that it was not at the exact day that Caylee would have died.
 
From reports KC was a liar, a thief and a user (of people). After the death of her daughter she just continued on. Since her arrest she is still lying using her lawyer to do it. This is not a few random actions of a traumatized victem of tragedy. These things are character traits. She made choices. She is not a passive victim but an active participant.

No I do not believe she is innocent, based on her own words, the statements of others, the evidence released and, yes, her own actions and attitude. MOO!
 
I personally believe KC to be GUILTY as sin. She disgusts me.

BUT...in this Country...you cannot convict if there is reasonable doubt. The prosecution needs to have a "smoking gun" which I am sure they have, but cannot release info yet. They won't release it until day before trial.
The defense just has to CREATE reasonable doubt. Their stuff hasn't and won't come out, because then it gives too much time to disprove what they have. The only hope they have is to take all of the prosecutions evidence and spin it into a "what if?"


If prosecutors needed a smoking gun for convictions, I'd be willing to bet most criminals behind bars right now would be free. It's the totality of all the evidence that seals the deal. Very seldom is there an actual 'smoking gun'.

I think based on the document dumps/interviews, Casey is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. The defense will try to raise doubt but I don't think it will be reasonable doubt.
 
If prosecutors needed a smoking gun for convictions, I'd be willing to bet most criminals behind bars right now would be free. It's the totality of all the evidence that seals the deal. Very seldom is there an actual 'smoking gun'.

I think based on the document dumps/interviews, Casey is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. The defense will try to raise doubt but I don't think it will be reasonable doubt.

How true, and so many over look the word "reasonable".
 
Im sure there will be evidence in the next doc dumps that is going to make her guiltier!!
Bring on the Docs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree about the ladder but I believe that the family still claims that the ladder was always put away.

When was it that CA said that they found the ladder not where it was supposed to be and the gate unlocked? Was that before or after Caylee went missing? I am pretty sure that it was not at the exact day that Caylee would have died.

It was the following day that they noticed it - 17 June. Since the pool was in the opposite corner of the yard from where their porch door was situated, it's perfectly feasible that they did not notice it earlier. IIRC it was also rainy during that period so they may not have gone into the yard before then.
 
While the evidence that has been revealed makes Casey look very guilty, there is still quite a bit left out.

I do believe in the American justice system and I do believe innocent until proven guilty. As I've followed this case, I have developed multiple scenarios of what may have occurred. In some of them Casey is innocent, in some she is guilty.

I also had a personal friend who was indicted by a Grand Jury for his wife's murder - and he was, in fact, innocent. The police were within hours of arresting him, when someone stepped forward with the murder weapons and the real story of what happened and who the killers were. Then it became crystal clear that my friend was not only innocent, he was the intended primary victim of a double homicide, which he only survived by some miracle. Mind you, EVERYTHING reported in the press about the case up until this turn of events made my friend look 100% GUILTY! After that experience, I am waiting until I hear the evidence as presented at Casey's trial to make a final decision on her guilt or innocence.
 
It was the following day that they noticed it - 17 June. Since the pool was in the opposite corner of the yard from where their porch door was situated, it's perfectly feasible that they did not notice it earlier. IIRC it was also rainy during that period so they may not have gone into the yard before then.


According to the Anthonys, they noticed the ladder on the 17th. We have no other proof this ever happened.
 
The point I was making is that Casey is a "doer" as well as a dreamer. Heck, for two years, she followed through on her dreams, planned her behaviour in order to deceive. She is capable of planning and following through on a murder, not just dreaming about it.

I think the circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against her innocence and I'll wait for the jury's vote. But, something that has bothered me since Caylee was found - if KC was such a planner and deceiver - why did she discard Caylee in that way so close to home? There are hundreds of places where this poor child could have been placed and never - ever -found again.
 
Very true, but my point is that KC's behaviour after the event would probably be the same whether it was deliberate or unintentional but caused through some negligence on her part. Once a coward and liar, always a coward and liar IMO

That's why I don't personally accept her behaviour afterwards as proof of deliberate murder, which is what she is accused of.

Devon, to follow your line of reasoning and assume it were an accident, Casey's attitude is such because she is a coward and a liar, why would she not fess up before now to save her own skin? The DP could go back on the table. Who wouldn't speak up IF it were due to negligence?
 
Normally depressed people eat. I think she is depressed, either by the guilt of killing her daughter or by setting in jail.

Depressed people don't party for weeks after their child goes 'missing,' enter hot body contests, and laugh and flirt during court sessions when their deceased child's remains are being discussed.
 
I vote for guilty, and also deliberate.
JMO
Lanie
 
As many twists as there have been in this case it's entirely possible that she is but with what we know right now I'd have to say she is guilty of many things including murdering her daughter.

I know this is way ot, please tell me if "laissez le bon temps rouler" means let the good times roll, it sounds like what I hear in New Orleans by Kid Rock, thanks :-)
 
I agree about the ladder but I believe that the family still claims that the ladder was always put away.

When was it that CA said that they found the ladder not where it was supposed to be and the gate unlocked? Was that before or after Caylee went missing? I am pretty sure that it was not at the exact day that Caylee would have died.

Let's say that Caylee's death was accidental drowning. Given the timeline that we have now, when would it have had to occur?
 
When you pull your child out of a pool, do you call 911 or tape the child's mouth shut? (not that I think the duct taping happened after death)

Then Casey clear-mindedly and deliberately hid Caylee's body and at some point called her parents to say she had to work in Tampa. That same evening Casey is videotaped smooching with her new boyfriend.

What about Casey's demeanor shortly after Caylee's death indicates the death was a surprise? She is more than able to take steps to cover-up and according to witnesses her regular happy self.

IMO
 
True, but if chloroform could be picked up at Target without any measuring or mixing of chemicals, it would be easier to imagine KC using it. She seems to take whatever she perceives to be the easy way out.

Where there's a will there's a way. The perp had the will, and the motive and would do whatever it took to get the job done, convenient or not. Her behaviour in the past proves that- like keeping up the pretence of a job. Frankly, just the thought of keeping up the pretence wears me out! It's too much work to keep a story like that straight. Sounds to me like the perp could be quite the little eager beaver when it was in her interests.
 
When considering Casey's Blockbuster demeanor, remember Casey had also just duct taped Caylee's mouth shut.

At best, Caylee was dead AFTER this fact. (Although I think forensics will show otherwise.)

IIRC, LE puts the TOD at either the 15th or 16th. No matter how one twists the squares on this Rubik's cube, your logic holds true. There is no evidence of any shock or panic from KC. LE initially believed an accidental death but as evidence was uncovered, changed to deliberate murder.

Just as many people hoped against hope Caylee would be found alive ala Elizabeth Smart, some cannot easily wrap their hearts around anything but an accidental death. But that doesn't fit the facts, imo.

Hope you consider starting a new thread to discuss this issue in depth.
 
I think what will be hard for some of the jury will be all the photos of KC and Caylee together. This looks like the perfect mom and baby. Caylee is happy, well fed, clean, lots of nice cloths and toys. The perfect picture. Mom takes her to the doctor because she has a cold, but doesn't call 911 if it's a pool accident. No marks on Caylee or bruises, of anyone saying she was a bad mom. It is hard to make the leap of good mom to a mom who would do such a horrible thing to a child. I know she did this, it's just hard to wrap your mind around it with so many things that contradict logic as we know it. You can't make sense out of nonsense.
 
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