Dominic Casey: Motion to Strike Notice of Deposition & Motion for Protective Order#1

[Bee Charmer]

This is an intriguing possibility! I pose two hypothetical situations.....................

Scenario 1. JB knows where Caylee's remains are located, having learned the general location from Casey. JB sends DC out to locate the remains and report back to him. DC finds the remains and reports to JB the exact location and what he found. JB tells DC to move the remains to a location distant from the Anthony home. DC tells JB he can't do that as the remains are small pieces scattered over a broad area. JB tells DC to remove and dispose of anything from the remains site that would tie Caylee's murder directly to Casey. DC returns to the remains site and removes several items, which he keeps.

Scenario 2. Cindy knows the general location of Caylee's remains, having learned this either directly from Casey when she was out on bond, or from Lee whom Casey confided in. Cindy sends DC out to locate Caylee's remains. DC finds the remains and reports back to Cindy who instructs him to dispose of the remains permanently - bury them in some remote location preferably far from Orlando. DC tells Cindy he can't do that as the remains are spread far and wide. Cindy instructs DC to go back to the remains site and remove anything that could be incriminating to Casey and dispose of it. DC returns to the remains site and removes several items that could tie Casey directly to Caylee's murder. Instead of disposing of these items, he keeps them.

In both of these scenarios we have an individual who has knowledge of where Caylee's remains were located. In both cases these individuals are motivated to keep Caylee's remains from being found, or if found, to make sure that there's nothing with the remains that incriminates Casey.

In both cases we have a private investigator who realized that if he disposed of Caylee's remains he would become an accessory after the fact and that may have played a role in him refusing to dispose of the remains. And in both scenarios, the private investigator keeps the items he was told to remove. Keeping these items may be two-fold. First of all, he knows he's in possession of evidence in a criminal case, and secondly, those items become an "insurance policy" for him to be paid for his services.

If either of these two scenarios proves to be accurate, would that qualify as a just cause for the prosecution's motion for an in camera, ex-parte hearing with the judge without the presence of the defense?

If the first scenario proves to be correct, would that be cause to have JB removed from the case and possibly disbarred?

If the second scenario proves to be correct, would that be grounds for charges of evidence tampering against Cindy and/or George Anthony? Could either of them be charged with accessory after the fact?

And, if either scenario proves correct, could DC be in a position of being offered immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony?

And, if either scenario proves correct, what would this do to the case against Casey Anthony?

Interesting scenarios, all of them. I think if anything has been done illegally here, the SA has the choice of going to a Grand Jury and getting a sealed indictment. Perhaps to be acted upon AFTER the criminal trial.

If it is baez who acted illegally, that has to be proven for him to be removed from the case, imo. Dominic would have to have some fairly good evidence, it can't be just his word agains baez's, imo.

I think Judge Strickland is up for anything that is coming his way and will rule appropriately.

 

[steadychick]

Does anyone know anything for sure about Dominic's whereabouts? Has he, in fact, moved out of his house? Is he answering his cell phone number left on his website? Is he returning calls? Is he in hiding, or is this just speculation? Has anyone seen him or checked on this?

I think if we had this information, it might go quite a ways toward answering our questions re what the in camera hearing is about.

 

[logicalgirl]

Because the Winter Olympics are being held in my fair city and it was 15 degrees out yesterday (centigrade) but how did we get from Dom providing evidence that will sink the defense ship to the daisy chain where ALL the evidence is going to be thrown under the bus and Casey will walk.
Anybody?
Is it because the tension is getting to us that these unbelievable scenarios have popped up - or has Leonard finally found a camera to flap at - I've missed something obviously VERY BIG but can't find anything but panic on the threads.
Me? Nah! I don't believe it and won't until I see legal paperwork on it with my own two eyes. I'm all for a good discussion but I don't see enough dissent. Somebody is fear mongering - surely JB isn't that incompetent he'd let Casey sit in jail for all these months waiting for someone to discover evidence that proves his client is innocent.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Does anyone know anything for sure about Dominic's whereabouts? Has he, in fact, moved out of his house? Is he answering his cell phone number left on his website? Is he returning calls? Is he in hiding, or is this just speculation? Has anyone seen him or checked on this?

I think if we had this information, it might go quite a ways toward answering our questions re what the in camera hearing is about.

Witness Protection program? :innocent: to keep him out of Cindy's reach..

 

[ThommyMac]

Resource for timelines: News Timeline from Google Labs

I just discovered this application from Google Labs this morning, and it is just the coolest thing ever for help in timeline development:

http://newstimeline.googlelabs.com

That is the GREATEST thing since the vegetable medley! Thank you for the link! Hours of fun!
:woohoo:

PS sorry about the lack of timeliness, but I like to re-read the whole thread if I can before posting.

 

[ThommyMac]

Wow, this makes me think of Claudius renting a room to hide Martina from Livia. Do not worry, true believers. Cindy ain't no Livia, and LP darn sure isn't a modern Sejanus. I agree with localgirl. Any "TRUE" bombshells for the defense would have them demanding an immediate hearing on every show that would have them. Maybe Dominic is pure dynamite for the state, maybe not. The Houdini act is very interesting, though.
NOTE: None of the comparisons are with any intended malice or slights. I am a big Robert Graves fan and it was the 1st thing to enter me mind reading all the posts.

 

[Leila]

Don't forget DC asked JH to come with him and JH had a camera. If you were doing something dishonest the last thing you would want with you is a camera. JMO

If any of my scenarios are anywhere near correct, that probably wasn't the only time that DC searched that area. Knowing that JH would be a witness and had a camera, DC may have staged that search for a specific purpose. Maybe something along the lines of "see, we searched this area and nothing is here - at least nothing is here as of November 15, 2008." And that's what Cindy said to Yuri Malich when he came to the Anthony home to serve a search warrant a few weeks after the remains were found. She said, "I sent someone there a month ago, and nothing was there."

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

If any of my scenarios are anywhere near correct, that probably wasn't the only time that DC searched that area. Knowing that JH would be a witness and had a camera, DC may have staged that search for a specific purpose. Maybe something along the lines of "see, we searched this area and nothing is here - at least nothing is here as of November 15, 2008." And that's what Cindy said to Yuri Malich when he came to the Anthony home to serve a search warrant a few weeks after the remains were found. She said, "I sent someone there a month ago, and nothing was there."

I may be waaaaay wrong here. . . so I'm thankful you brought this up. Because as I looked at the videos and some stills that were captured from them I kept thinking, "I thought DC claimed he didn't know JH was photographing him." So many of the shots looked like they were taken from right over his shoulder. Did I misunderstand that DC claimed he didn't know? And did anyone else question the perspective and angles of the camera, even making allowances for telescopic lenses?

 

[steadychick]

I may be waaaaay wrong here. . . so I'm thankful you brought this up. Because as I looked at the videos and some stills that were captured from them I kept thinking, "I thought DC claimed he didn't know JH was photographing him." So many of the shots looked like they were taken from right over his shoulder. Did I misunderstand that DC claimed he didn't know? And did anyone else question the perspective and angles of the camera, even making allowances for telescopic lenses?

Yep, DC claimed that he didn't know, and yet when Hoover supposedly tried to sell the video to Geraldo, suddenly DC and the Anthony's had a copy that they released first, and they claimed that it was their property/work product.

 

[Chiquita71]

Interview with LE
Dominic Casey
January 7, 2009

DC claims he turned around and caught JH video taping while in the woods, and claims he was totally unaware JH was video taping him at the abandoned house. It is the video taping of the abandoned that DC is speaking of in the following part:

(skip)
LE: Right. Okay, did he, did he video tape there?
DC: To my knowledge, no.
LE: Okay, so you, you, you, you, he wouldn't have, there would be nothing on that, on that video tape with him standing right there by you video taping you digging with a small garden tool? Uh, we won't find anything like that on there, right?
DC: I'm not saying that you wouldn't. That's highly possible,. He's, he's a sneaky devil. I...
LE: He's a sneaky devil?
DC: If he, if he does, if...
LE: What...
DC: ...there is something on the video tape well...
LE: But if he did it, it would have been...
DC: ...I, I would, (inaudible)...
LE: ...you wouldn't have, you wouldn't have known it?
DC: Excuse me?
LE: If he did do that you wouldn't have known that?
DC: I would not have known that.
LE: Okay. So he probably would have been at some considerable distance? He would have been far enough away where you couldn't have seen him video taping you, right? He certainly wouldn't have been right up there with you, standing right next to you while this is going, he'd have, he'd have been some distance away for you to not have known it.
DC: I wouldn't necessarily say, say that. He was no farther away than, he was, he was probably as far away as you are, or maybe a little, maybe another two or three feet.
LE: Are you saying that I could stand this close to you and video tape you and you not, you wouldn't, you wouldn't know that? I, I'm, you...
DC: I've seen him on s...on, Hopespring with protesters with his video tape and his, and his, he had it here like this under his jacket.
LE: Okay
(skip)
LE: So if he video taped you at the house he would have had that video tape somewhere in his coat and he wouldn't have been standing right up on you like this? Because uh, I don't think he, I mean I certainly don't think I could stand this close to you with a video camera up here, pointing it at you, without you at least seeing me.
DC: To my recollection I did not see him with a video camera, video camera, uh video tape. To my recollection there was no tape in there.
(end)

...JS...

 

[Spoiler]

This is an intriguing possibility! I pose two hypothetical situations.....................

Scenario 1. JB knows where Caylee's remains are located, having learned the general location from Casey. JB sends DC out to locate the remains and report back to him. DC finds the remains and reports to JB the exact location and what he found. JB tells DC to move the remains to a location distant from the Anthony home. DC tells JB he can't do that as the remains are small pieces scattered over a broad area. JB tells DC to remove and dispose of anything from the remains site that would tie Caylee's murder directly to Casey. DC returns to the remains site and removes several items, which he keeps.

Scenario 2. Cindy knows the general location of Caylee's remains, having learned this either directly from Casey when she was out on bond, or from Lee whom Casey confided in. Cindy sends DC out to locate Caylee's remains. DC finds the remains and reports back to Cindy who instructs him to dispose of the remains permanently - bury them in some remote location preferably far from Orlando. DC tells Cindy he can't do that as the remains are spread far and wide. Cindy instructs DC to go back to the remains site and remove anything that could be incriminating to Casey and dispose of it. DC returns to the remains site and removes several items that could tie Casey directly to Caylee's murder. Instead of disposing of these items, he keeps them.

In both of these scenarios we have an individual who has knowledge of where Caylee's remains were located. In both cases these individuals are motivated to keep Caylee's remains from being found, or if found, to make sure that there's nothing with the remains that incriminates Casey.

In both cases we have a private investigator who realized that if he disposed of Caylee's remains he would become an accessory after the fact and that may have played a role in him refusing to dispose of the remains. And in both scenarios, the private investigator keeps the items he was told to remove. Keeping these items may be two-fold. First of all, he knows he's in possession of evidence in a criminal case, and secondly, those items become an "insurance policy" for him to be paid for his services.

If either of these two scenarios proves to be accurate, would that qualify as a just cause for the prosecution's motion for an in camera, ex-parte hearing with the judge without the presence of the defense?

If the first scenario proves to be correct, would that be cause to have JB removed from the case and possibly disbarred?

If the second scenario proves to be correct, would that be grounds for charges of evidence tampering against Cindy and/or George Anthony? Could either of them be charged with accessory after the fact?

And, if either scenario proves correct, could DC be in a position of being offered immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony?

And, if either scenario proves correct, what would this do to the case against Casey Anthony?

Number 3 ... He is telling the truth and he was given directions there by Ginnette Lucas as he testified.....
Check the record.

 

[Trapshooter]

Number 3 ... He is telling the truth and he was given directions there by Ginnette Lucas as he testified.....
Check the record.

Dominic is as much a stranger with the truth as is Ms. Anthony.

 

[AZlawyer]

Number 3 ... He is telling the truth and he was given directions there by Ginnette Lucas as he testified.....
Check the record.

Which is why I really wish Ginette L had released her phone records for the few days BEFORE she called DC. Who called her in the first place, and when?

 

[butterfly1978]

Does anyone honestly think that a GL sent DC to the remain site through a psycic vision?

If GL did lead DC to the remain site which can be proven through phone records which I'm not sure it can be, then it is because Cindy somehow told GL where to send DC to, because Cindy herself admitted to sending DC there, also from what I remember Cindy sent GL a bear or something. If I was a gambling woman, I would bet that inside that bear there was a note with directions as well as payment.
HMMMMM that makes me wonder, I wonder if GL may have turned over whatever it was that led DC to the remain site, now that would definitely be damning.

 

[ThommyMac]

Which is why I really wish Ginette L had released her phone records for the few days BEFORE she called DC. Who called her in the first place, and when?

Aye, to take a peek behind the curtain. The wizard's bombast ain't matching the little guy behind the smoke, to torture the Oz metaphor(s).

 

[The World According]

Dominic is as much a stranger with the truth as is Ms. Anthony.

He certainly is. LE cold busted him lying, under oath when they questioned him. We have the proof here in this letter that he lied to his PI board, ( well wither he lied to them or he lied to Brad..take your pick). He told Le he did not know that Hoover was taping. On the tape, Dom can be heard, several times speaking to Hoover, directing him even. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYweJpl7lwo[/ame]

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THE FAPI says the PI s working for the Anthonys possibly violated Florida statutes
I read this in a Press Release dated March 27, 2009

Florida Association of Private Investigators Deplores Reports of Unlicensed Activity

Florida Licensing Statutes are clear; The Private Investigators who involved themselves in the Anthony case appear to have acted in violation of the regulatory provisions governing the investigative profession as set forth in FSS 493. Public should be aware of Licensing Statutes

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Fort Lauderdale, FL, March 26, 2009: While refraining from speculation regarding the Caylee Anthony murder case, the Florida Association of Private Investigators, Inc. (FAPI) is speaking out about the activities of the private investigators allegedly working for the Anthony family and their defense attorney having possibly violated of Florida statutes.

__________________________________________________ ________________________

Here is Dom's response he sent :
April 6, 2009
"In response to a scathing press release issued by the co-presidents of FAPI against investigators involved in the Caylee Anthony homicide investigation, Dominic Casey sent Pursuit Magazine the following response:

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Mark Feegel and Chuck Chambers,

I was forwarded your/FAPI March 27, 2009 Statement/Press Release. In this Press Release you state that you are refraining from speculation regarding the Caylee Anthony murder case, and the Florida Association of Private Investigators, Inc. (FAPI) “is speaking out”.

You begin by stating: “The Private Investigators who involved themselves in the Anthony case appear to have acted in violation of the regulatory provisions governing the investigative profession . . .” You further state that in Hoovers Deposition, he testified “ . . . “he performed investigative work for both Agencies and unless D&A was subcontracting work to Class Action, or unless Hoover was an employee (not subcontractor) of Class Action and subsequently D&A, Hoover and both agencies allegedly violated the law”.

Also you state “ . . . it is a shame to have this type of embarrassing activity on a high-profile tragedy such as the Caylee Anthony case . . .” Then you abruptly state “The credibility of the private investigator and, indeed, the actual investigation he conducted, may be called into question . . . leading to disastrous results for the client”

Below I have provided extracts of James Hoovers December 18, 2008 Interview with OCSO and FBI, also extracts of James Hoovers March 25, 2009 Deposition. You will note that James Hoover secretly videotaped the Anthony family while at church and without their knowledge, James Hoover states that he was not working for anybody and he intended making money from the photographs or video.

In his deposition, James Hoover stated that he did not become involved in the investigation of the case and that he offered the Family help.

December 18, 2008 James Hoover Interview with OCSO and FBI
Page 2 Line: 1 Q. Okay. And Uh, some of the pictures you have on here uhm, you have some pictures of, of, of uh, George and Cindy inside of the church? . . . page 2 Line: 3 A. Uh, yes sir . . . page 2 Line: 4 Alright, or a video of George and Cindy . . . page 2 Line 5. Yeah (Affirmative) . . . page 2 Line: 6 . . . In a church? . . . page 2 Line: 7 Yeah (Affirmative) I was playing with a camera . . . page 2 Line: 19 Did they know you were video taping them at the time? . . . page 2 Line: 20 Uh, no sir . . . page 2 Line21 Okay. Who, uh, who are you working for . . . page 2 Line: 2 Nobody page 4 Line: 2 Alright what were you going to do with these photographs or this video tape? . . . page 4 Line: 4 I think earlier you said you were going to make some money . . . page 4 Line: 5 Yeah . . .

March 25, 2009 Deposition
page 17 Line 23: Q. How did you become involved in the investigation? A. I . . . page 18 Line 1: . . . didn’t become involved in the investigation of the case . . . page 18 Line 3: Q. I didn’t understand what you said . . . page 18 Line 4: I didn’t become involved in the investigation . . . page 18 Line 5: part of the case . . . page 18 Line 6: Q. What is your involvement In the case? . . . page 18 Line 14: . . . I just thought these people needed help. I’m going to go there and offer these people help as a citizen. I wasn’t the only person that did that, by the way, certainly.

For your information, D&A Investigations, Inc. have worked this Case since July 2008 and continue to do so under a Retainer Agreement with the Anthony Family. James Hoover is not affiliated, employed nor subcontracted by D&A nor has ever been. Furthermore, he never performed any investigations in connection with this Case for D&A or the Anthony Family. James Hoover “offered” to help the Family with security then engaged in unforgivable acts such as, secretly videotaping the Family and myself in an attempt make money. For the record, your allegations directed toward me and my Agency are false, baseless and have injected uninformed opinion’s to the public arena.

Kindest regards,
Dominic Casey, Private Investigator
D&A Investigations, Inc."

___________________

What do you make of this? Here Brad says that Hoover did work for Dominic.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14HGg7krwkY[/ame]

You just can't make this stuff up. I want no special deals given to Hoover or Dominic, this kind of behavior needs to be made an example of. Poor Caylee...who is looking out for her in this cast of characters? It is vile!!!

 

[LambChop]

I don't think anyone disagrees he was speaking with the psychic on the phone. What the problem is when DC reached a certain point in his statement to LE, he suddenly asked to go off the record and has refused to speak since. That's the problem. If it was something as simple as getting information from a psychic there would be NOTHING to hide. It is what is hidden that SA wants to get out of him. There would be no confidentiality/priviledge issues with the psychic. JMO

 

[Sun]

Here is an old, old news article, which pinpoints when DC may have first had any contact with Casey. Note: Another "agent" of the Baez Law Firm also appears to have met with Casey also.... anyone know if this "agent" is still under the employment of the Baez Law Firm?

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/14/parents_to_visit_casey_anthony.html

Private Investigators Visit Casey
Friday, August 15, 2008 5:26:38 PM

Jail records show on July 25, Casey got a visit from Edward Phlegar, who is an investigator for her attorney Jose Baez's law firm. Casey Dominic, another private investigator for Baez, visited Casey on Aug. 8.

 

[strawberry]

Dominic is as much a stranger with the truth as is Ms. Anthony.

and Mrs. Anthony and Mr. Anthony and Mr. Anthony and Mr. Conway and Mr. Baez....

 

[strawberry]

Here is an old, old news article, which pinpoints when DC may have first had any contact with Casey. Note: Another "agent" of the Baez Law Firm also appears to have met with Casey also.... anyone know if this "agent" is still under the employment of the Baez Law Firm?

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/14/parents_to_visit_casey_anthony.html

Private Investigators Visit Casey
Friday, August 15, 2008 5:26:38 PM

Jail records show on July 25, Casey got a visit from Edward Phlegar, who is an investigator for her attorney Jose Baez's law firm. Casey Dominic, another private investigator for Baez, visited Casey on Aug. 8.

In one of the jailhouse tapes CA tells KC that "Dom is a good one to talk to." Sorry, I don't have the specific one off hand.