Dominic Casey: Motion to Strike Notice of Deposition & Motion for Protective Order#2

  • #241
So I am a little confused, has DC had his deposition yet or is that still to come. I know this new judge will not put up with him refusing to have his deposition taken.

We have no proof, but it appears that the investigative interview has taken place and the transcript has just not been released to the public yet (like many other depos). If DC had not complied by now, the SA would have filed a motion to compel. Either Judge Strickland or HHJP would have intervened.
 
  • #242
We have no proof, but it appears that the investigative interview has taken place and the transcript has just not been released to the public yet (like many other depos). If DC had not complied by now, the SA would have filed a motion to compel. Either Judge Strickland or HHJP would have intervened.

ITA...especially after his attorney DT put her motion for conclusion in. JMHO


Justice for Caylee
 
  • #243
respectfully bbm - ITA with you NTS, one of Caylee's blankets was missing, just like Cindy's beautiful Granddaughter was.. but I'm wondering why she seems to have forgotten to tell LE about the missing blanket at that time, yet she told DC.

I actually don't find it a stretch, at all, to believe Cindy had inside information when she pointed DC in the right direction!

Great catch!!! So often, so very often, they tell on themselves!
 
  • #244
DC told JH that they were going to look for a dead Caylee and he knew where she was. He was so sure he went back three times. This does not sound like a psychic tip. Three times. It sounds more like a believable tip to me. Say one that might have come from the horse's mouth. And we know from CA's statement to LE that she claims to have sent DC there. Out of all the tips this is the only one checked out. As a juror we can stretch our imagination maybe once, maybe twice but this incident will not pass the stretch test.....it reeks of "insider information". The fact that KC was "secretly" writing to her parents thought her attorney at this time would lead us to believe KC wanted Mommy and Daddy to get rid of the evidence. If DC had shared the information with LE they would have found the body easily. jmo

You are right on the money LC!!!

Here are some,of Dominic Casey's discrepancies:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpFaxOPQseM[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYweJpl7lwo[/ame]


November 15, 16, 17
Taped Transcript of Mr. Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4782219/...leased-March-5

http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html
Posted: 5:55 pm EST January 7, 2009Updated: 7:57 am EST January 8, 2009
P.I. Says Partner Knew Where Caylee Anthony's Body Was
"Private investigator Jim Hoover and his attorney told only Eyewitness News on Wednesday afternoon that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, told Hoover on the morning of November 15 that Caylee was dead and that he knew where her body was.

November 17, 2008 3:23:34 PM (scroll down)
Spokeswoman: Anthonys Have Evidence Caylee Is Alive
"Spokeswoman Michelle Bart told News 13 Monday they have legitimate tips and evidence that Caylee is still alive."

November 20, 2008
http://www.wftv.com/news/18025838/detail.html
Statement From Mark NeJame Resigning As Anthonys' Attorney
The following is a statement released by Mark NeJame on November 20, 2008
(quoted from statement)
"The other condition I required was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with representing Casey or assisting in her legal defense."
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December 16, 2008
http://www.wftv.com/news/18288396/detail.html (scroll down)
Posted: 6:32 am EST December 16, 2008 Updated: 10:04 am EST December 18, 2008
ANTHONYS RELEASE STATEMENT ABOUT REMAINS (quoted from article)
"Conway said he plans to meet with the lead prosecutor and detectives later this week to ask for full immunity for the Anthonys"

January 7, 2009
http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html
Posted: 5:55 pm EST January 7, 2009Updated: 7:57 am EST January 8, 2009
ANTHONY FAMILY ATTORNEY MEETS WITH PROSECUTORS
(quoted from article)
"Conway also told Eyewitness News that he's been trying to get immunity for the George and Cindy Anthony."

January 12, 2009
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html
POSTED: Monday, January 12, 2009 UPDATED: 2:09 pm EST January 12, 2009

Think of a parent asking teenager where they were that day. The teenager may say Johnny and he stopped at Johnny's house to pick up some stuff they needed for their homework project, to explain why he is an hour and half late. That may be true, only he forgot to mention that on the way to Johnny's they stopped in the park and smoked a couple of joints.


When Mr. Casey was asked who he was speaking to on the phone that day ...he answered his ill daughter, and stopped there. Later he changed that to add Genny. Oh my. Red flag. He told LE he was going to those woods to verify if that was a place Casey may have hung out as a teen....this is an unpaid PI, supposedly searching for a Zanny the Nanny...what would where Casey partied six years ago, before the baby was born, have to do with the price of tea in China? He told Mr. Hoover Caylee is dead and they were going to get her. First Dom said it was a tip, then a vision. By the way, mom , pop and Dom called in every wild tip from Mars they were given...but not the one that indicated the baby was dead and detailed the location of the body!!!!!! LE and the FBI spent likley hundreds of thousands of dollars searching down all these tips, all across the country, month after month after month. so why was this tip not called in by Dom? There is no innocuous explanation. Then Geraldo says Mr. Casey was sent to those woods with maps and graphs while Brad is on the show ( and this is important....Brad does not correct him ). Maps and graphs and specific information is what Dom was sent to those woods with. That is a very far cry from Kio saying they went there as kids, dumb luck, or Ginny's magic visions!!!!!He said he had no idea that Hoover was taping him. He can be clearly heard on the tape directing Mr. Hoover. Dom has said over and over again Hoover did not work for him. Later Brad claims that Hoover did work for Dom.. Are we detecting a pattern yet? My very favorite, hands down is.....mom and pop feign shock and claim they had no idea Dom went to those woods, the trouble is...Brad goes on Geraldo stating the tape belongs to them, it is part of THEIR INVESTIGATION. Moreover, Cindy states in front of two detectives that she had already sent someone to those woods in November...guess what month Dom was there. Are we there yet? Mr. Casey has stalled and delayed and fought in court for over a year now to avoid testifying. Yes....we have arrived.

Like the teenager and the walk home, Dom and Genny released a redacted short record from one day. That will hardly suffice.
This is the problem we have with seeing a release of Dom and Ginny's records from that day only.
1. We know they spoke on many other days than just the search day.
2. Dom had more than one phone he was using while in those woods.
3. Dom talked to others that then talked to Genny so we have questions about the nature of those conversations and relationships.
4. Genny is said to have been sent or given some items of Caylee's , we need to know the circumstances surrounding that, and see any and all correspondence.

There is such a thing as lying by omission. If you do not believe me...ask the federal officer what they would call Cindy giving the wrong hair brush for Caylee.

Have faith my friends. Mrs. Drane -Burdick wasted no time educating ( or as Mr. Dill would say..."edifying" ) Mr. Casey about what she expects when she has the court reporter swear him in. The same will be true with what's her name with the magic visions. What is that old Abe Lincoln saying..."You can fool some of the people...some of the time....but you cannot fool all of the people, all the time". The jig is up.
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This is Mr, Hoover's lawyer detailing Mr. Hoover's knowledge on the topic. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0yT8iFid6s[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec4hZKXHfgk[/ame]

Dominic interview with LE and Federal Agents: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhzHBImdRrY[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEUHs5HdtU[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTNP-5Z0JT0[/ame]
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhnB-Vak0xg[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFwxZ2mbjlI[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVw8X5jo2WI[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWLPKCmBJc[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gk2OxnxZJs[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a0uIfJEKYk[/ame]
This is the psychic saying she was on the phone with Dominic the day he was in the woods.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs[/ame]
Dominic filed bar complaint against Jose Baez for two reasons
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qpUNAz4vQ[/ame] He claimed he was unpaid and that Mr. Baez gave him instructions no to call 911 when he found the remains.
Mark Furhman comments on the search by Dominic.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvOEkBLXgUI[/ame]
Considering he was not being paid, chasing down where Casey hung out as a pre teen and teenager would be very very far removed from a PI's to do list! It was insulting to the intelligence of the LE who were interviewing him, and indeed the caught themselves laughing aloud at times.
I will be very interested to hear the entire, unedited version of the LE interview. The interesting thing that I learned recently about Dom is that his home was in pre foreclosure, he had only had only been a PI mere months before meeting the Anthonys, so how does one in this precarious predicament afford to work on anything for a year for free. Something has him emotionally invested and I am very leery of him. I have some very dear friends that I love more than life that I will trade favors with, but if even they expected me to work on something for a year, it would be with a warm note, and a invoice! LOL!!! The Anthonys were not old friends of his, they were strangers to him. Something keeps them tied together. Something nefarious in my opinion.


It is at the 6:45 mark, she was basically laying blame on the media for releasing their jailhouse conversations with Casey, and is trying to say that because of the information that has gotten leaked, that Caylee's captor might do something to her and that if that happened, in her words, "then everybody is to blame". She specifically says that "if we can prove that something happened to Caylee while she was out of Casey's custody" then you all will be to blame. Unbelievable how she shifts blame from Casey and on to everyone else! It looks to me like she absolutely knows where she "needs to go" with this, because something had in fact happened to Caylee. And they couldn't get out of it once that 911 call had been placed. So the "Mother of the Year campaign" gets cranked up, even though she doesn't use that exact term in this particular interview.And over a year later, where are we? Watching the defense trying to prove that what happened to Caylee happened to her while out of Casey's custody. Why - that body couldn't have been in those woods, Cindy had her people search there!
Check it out:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHMNxkI4iMk[/ame]
Attorney Richard Hornsby had this to say about Mr. Casey,"You don't fight a subpoena this hard unless you have something to hide. If I recall, Judge Strickland said there was not privilege with him and Baez anymore, if that is the case, he will eventually testify."
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  • #245
respectfully bbm - ITA with you NTS, one of Caylee's blankets was missing, just like Cindy's beautiful Granddaughter was.. but I'm wondering why she seems to have forgotten to tell LE about the missing blanket at that time, yet she told DC.
I actually don't find it a stretch, at all, to believe Cindy had inside information when she pointed DC in the right direction!


Up until I read your post, I had it in my head that CA mentioned the missing blanket in the early days to LE....but the first I can find proof of her telling LE about the missing blanket is in her 7/28/09 depo, over a YEAR after Caylee was missing. Is this correct??


Just goes to show ya, doesn't matter how much time & energy you spend studying this case, things can slip by you. Unbelievable, if that is correct.
 
  • #246
Why did he tell LE that that he knew to look for pavers due to a psychic in Virginia? If you believe 'Ginny' has visions, then I guess that answers that. I don't believe him or GL.
Let's say you are right, and he found it on his own, perhaps knew about the pavers from prior visits or squeezed that into his story once he actually saw the pavers-Why would he fabricate a story about a psychic, and have said psychic ready to lie for him?
Maybe you are also right that KC did not lead him there-perhaps another person that contracted DC had already been to the site themselves, and asked DC to go back and confirm the discovery. Who would that be?

Jayla, here this Judge explains exactly what you describe, Also this experienced PI tells the reasons there is no way what Dom was doing was as he described...it was almost animalistic in the way he was slashing bags, etc. It was more likely to have been to create reasonable doubt that the body wasn't there at the time.
He could have contaminated the evidence, poking and splashing..it is very upsetting, he could have caused a litany of problems with the utter reckless way he was doing things in those woods, no gloves on. This is something an experienced PI would never do!
Judge JP:
This is the mother load . It is an agent of the defense, or at least an employee of the defendant's family, finding and locating in the area exactly where the body was subsequently found, on the phone, frantically going through the bags, contaminating evidence, poking and slashing with that knife in the woods slashing, etc. It indicates the intent was not to recover the body, it was to contaminate and possibly take away information. If he lied......it is OVER for Casey Anthony.
KB:
He can be heard on the tape saying "It would be right here", Hoover zooms in on the pavers in the woods!!!! Come on......

Judge JP:
It is complete and utter hogwash to me! You have a guy, hired by the defendant's parents, slashing garbage bags when we know the child's skull was found in a garbage bag! The feds will find out the truth, and if he lied to the feds, you have got him dead to rights, automatically, on the crime of lying to a federal officer which is a felony. You have got him on tampering with evidence,criminal facilitation after the fact, it's conspiracy. He is a guy, without a doubt who is going to be indicted for information that he had, or turn state's evidence on the Anthonys. There is no doubt about it.There is no confidentiality here there is no privilege. This is too close for comfort.No question!!! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYweJpl7lwo[/ame]
 
  • #247
I have to disagree...it was nothing to do with his "investigatvive techniques why he got so close...it was the fact he was in contact with SOMEONE who TOLD him EXACTLY where to proceed to search...

In HIS complaint to the Bar of Florida, he alleges that he was not paid, and that he was instructed that IF he found the body, NOT to call the police, but rather to call Baez...so apparently Inmate Anthony shared the local with her birds-of-a-feather lawyer... :)

Wait a sec. Do we have his complaint to the Bar of Florida and its wording? I have not seen that. Where is that? thanks
 
  • #248
ITA - not to mention the horribly disrespectful and destructive way DC looked on tape looking for the remains. It was more like a "search and destroy" mission than looking for the remains of a child's body. He was vigorously slashing and poking into bags and underbrush with that stick thing. If he had ever found her remains, he probably would have damaged the crime scene or disturbed it so badly a lot of evidence would have been rendered useless. Which made all of us think he had no intention of telling the police if he found Caylee's remains. None.

It's ridiculous that CA had to be cajoled into letting a nationally known, expert search organization look for Caylee and was angry he had even asked for guidance on the areas to look, but she could send out her PI in secret to a spot only a few feet from the actual remains.

What sort of "investigative skills" did DC have that drew him to that place? What sort of "information" did he have that he did not share with LE, that led him only a few feet away when everyone else was off by miles? Too specific for a guess, so what exactly was it? And none of us buy the hinkadelic psychic routine.

CeCy, you are so right about the destroying evidence. I recall Mr. Miller saying that it was the smartest decision he has ever made in over 1000 cases, to call off the search for that exact reason. With the area basically turned into a swamp he feared that if her little tiny bones were run over, or stepped on by one of the horses, or even a man's boots, it may have been pushed down into the mud, never to be found. There is no good reason DC did not tell LE about the tip ( vision, whatever ) and give them the opportunity to search with trained professionals. Only if as and when they refused could I imagine him taking a look carefully, very carefully himself. By his actions, it is clear he was misguided and that is putting it politely.
 
  • #249
Amazing post...and just to add a little bit. Why on earth did Cindy and George require the use of "bat phones"? What did they need to hide? Certainly DC had a bat phone as well.

Something is hugely hinky!
 
  • #250
Bc said on Jeraldo that Dc was hired to look for Caylee dead or alive.

Respectfully, God bless him , Brad has publicly made a number of statements that are the utter and full opposite of what his clients have said. I don't blame him as much as them. It seems Brad says what he wished and hopes were the case; whereas they make up ridiculous, easily disprovable lies. Nevertheless, they are not on the same page with him, and certainly Baez, the Anthonys and Brad are not, at all! No wonder Mr. Nejame could not be a party to things he knew to be false. Good for him!:waitasec:
 
  • #251
BC also claimed there was absolutely no duct tape on the skull.

Wishful thinking on his part.
 
  • #252
Dc was smart in the way that he got closer to the body than anyone cept Rk. RROOO4 had mentioned a tv in the video a while back. I looked and yes there was a tv in the video. The ground also appeared to be dry. Csi Welch mentioned a tv east of the baseline which had to be within 15 feet of the north south baseline at the path. There was also a blanket. I think he was very close at some point. He also said he went back there on his own. He prolly just missed it like everyone else did, but his investigative techniques got him a lot closer than LE. I find it a stretch to say Kc led him there. That is my opinion and it makes sense. It is a fantasy to think that Kc told them where to find the body. There is no reason for that to happen. IMO

Respectfully, there was nothing smart about what Dominic did in those woods. Even a child would know if you are looking for a small toddler's bones they are going to be incredibly small and one would need to be exceedingly careful. It was not smart not to call the police to do the search. It is not credible for Dom to say that he didn't think they would search it if he called. We know that , however ridiculous so many of the tips were, LE worked each and every one, FBI agents were dispatched all across the country to document the fact that they searched down every tip. If the PI for the family of the defendant phoned up Yuri or Eric and said what he said to Mr. Hoover, Caylee is dead, we need to go get her, you bet your life LE, CSI and the actual Sheriff and ME would have been on that scene within mere minutes, just as they were when the 911 call, I have found a human scull call was made. Do you recall that? It was all over CNN and everywhere, they were there...all of them...as fast as they could possibly drive there.

There was nothing smart about it, indeed he may very well be asking for immunity for criminal ( or even putting it in the light most favorable to Dominic ) misguided, dumb things he did in those woods. I respect your opinion, but I would bet everything I own the jury will not buy Dom's explanations that defy all common sense. His story, imo, is very , very far from credible. Seeing some of his work within the e mails between he and Cindy I find him to be someone who cannot be trusted, not on his best day.:furious:
 
  • #253
Dc was smart in the way that he got closer to the body than anyone cept Rk. RROOO4 had mentioned a tv in the video a while back. I looked and yes there was a tv in the video. The ground also appeared to be dry. Csi Welch mentioned a tv east of the baseline which had to be within 15 feet of the north south baseline at the path. There was also a blanket. I think he was very close at some point. He also said he went back there on his own. He prolly just missed it like everyone else did, but his investigative techniques got him a lot closer than LE. I find it a stretch to say Kc led him there. That is my opinion and it makes sense. It is a fantasy to think that Kc told them where to find the body. There is no reason for that to happen. IMO


BBM....But didn't you say that a body could not have been there because Joe J and Laura B had searched that area and found nothing? So I guess there was a body/remains there after all and Joe J and Laura B just simply "mis-spoke".
 
  • #254
Amazing post...and just to add a little bit. Why on earth did Cindy and George require the use of "bat phones"? What did they need to hide? Certainly DC had a bat phone as well.

Something is hugely hinky!

Hi there. You know that is the most telling thing. If everyone is on the up and up, what possible reason would one need for a bat phone? Dominic, Cindy and Mr. Hoover have all said Dominic had a number of phones. Unless you are a cheating spouse whose Sancha or Sancho and you have bat phones, or you are a dope dealer, or you cannot afford a normal cell phone, or yours is hopelessly lost and you are waiting on your new one to arrive via FED/EX....what in the world would they all need these phones for? Could it be something along the lines of why Lee said to Mom and Pop, whatever you do, don't mention Casey's letters?

Does anyone know why George stormed Mark Nejames office that one day, in a rage it seemed, then Brad and Mark talked him down off his emotional ledge. He then told the reporters he was mistaken about something and he trusts and appreciates Mr. Nejame?


Casey Anthony's Father Storms Into News Conference - Central ...
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Aug 20, 2009 ... George Anthony storms a news conference by attorney Mark NeJame (8/20) ... ORLANDO -- The father of Casey Anthony was so unhappy with his ...

sniped "ORLANDO -- The father of Casey Anthony was so unhappy with his former attorney releasing photos of the scene where his granddaughter's remains were found, he stormed into the middle of a press conference Thursday.

Attorney Mark NeJame, along with his client, Tim Miller, held the press conference to talk about the photos."
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  • #255
Okay to sum it up. If Dc can not be believed, and Bc can not be believed, and Ca can not be believed, and Ga can not be believed, and Jb can not be believed, and so on, then we can only leave it up to pure speculation. That appears to be what is happening here. Who are we suppose to believe? The press? The Le? The SA? If the jury is left with these kind of choices, the jury will be hung in my opinion.

At trial, these peoples words will have to be taken serious at some point. To just impeach all the witnesses close to the case will not result in an conviction. IMO
 
  • #256
Hi there. You know that is the most telling thing. If everyone is on the up and up, what possible reason would one need for a bat phone. Dominic, Cindy and Mr. Hoover have all said Dominic had a number of phones. Unless you are a cheating spouse whose Sancha or Sancho and you have bat phones, or you are a dope dealer, or you cannot afford a normal cell phone, or yours is hopelessly lost and you are waiting on your new one to arrive via FED/EX....what in the world would they all need these phones for? Could it be something along the lines of why Lee said to Mom and Pop, whatever you do, don't mention Casey's letters?

Does anyone know why George stormed Mark Nejames office that one day, in a rage it seemed, then Brad and Mark talked him down off his emotional ledge. He then told the reporters he was mistaken about something and he trusts and appreciates Mr. Nejame? I have to try to find that. One of them, and I don't recall which one said something kind of under breath about he was just concerned and we assured him nothing was tampered with. Do you guys remember? It seemed like Brad and Mark knew something that George thought they were spilling to the media?
bbm
I remember that! Wasn't Nejame giving some kind of press conference that day? Everyone was shocked by GA's weird behavior. What had him so scared?
 
  • #257
Okay to sum it up. If Dc can not be believed, and Bc can not be believed, and Ca can not be believed, and Ga can not be believed, and Jb can not be believed, and so on, then we can only leave it up to pure speculation. That appears to be what is happening here. Who are we suppose to believe? The press? The Le? The SA? If the jury is left with these kind of choices, the jury will be hung in my opinion.

At trial, these peoples words will have to be taken serious at some point. To just impeach all the witnesses close to the case will not result in an conviction. IMO

BBM

Caylee. That's who we believe. Caylee, and all the little clues that baby left behind.
 
  • #258
bbm
I remember that! Wasn't Nejame giving some kind of press conference that day? Everyone was shocked by GA's weird behavior. What had him so scared?

Wasn't that the day Mark Nejame was releasing the video of the water level tables? I seem to remember that Baez gave George a call to let him know there was a press conference - and we can just assume Baez knew which red flag to wave at George to enflame him enough to charge over there.

I doubt Baez told George the real reason for the press conference.
 
  • #259
Up until I read your post, I had it in my head that CA mentioned the missing blanket in the early days to LE....but the first I can find proof of her telling LE about the missing blanket is in her 7/28/09 depo, over a YEAR after Caylee was missing. Is this correct??


Just goes to show ya, doesn't matter how much time & energy you spend studying this case, things can slip by you. Unbelievable, if that is correct.

CA did mention it in an early news interview (Greta maybe?)...she said something like, "nothing was missing from Caylee's room except a blanket."
 
  • #260
I believe the photos were aerial photos that were taken at the time to show the water levels at the remains site which were probably totally unrelated to the search. GA may have freaked out because all he heard was photos of the remains site, or that was the way it was presented to him. jmo
 

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