Donations & Proceeds Discussion Thread

[stilettos]

yes, please do some googling, it would be under such tops as grief. Crystal did not experience a core level loss as Ron and family who were actively supporting and tending to Haleigh on a daily basis. "Daily" will be a key word in core level.

A core level loss is the type of loss that effects your everyday acitivities, your lifestyle, the way you function, how much groceries you buy, how many loads of laundry you do per week, etc.... Ron is the one that lost everything when Haleigh disappeared. That is just a fact whether people want to accept that or not.

The core level loss has nothing to do with what member or persons status is to an individual. I in no way disparaged Crystal as you would have it come across. It's not my fault the truth is the truth, I just made a simple statement that Ron is the one with that core level grief effecting his daily functions.

I lost my Granny October 4th, but it didn't effect how many times I clean the hair brush out. Or how many pork chops I have to fry for supper, or how much money is coming into my home. Though I miss Granny and loved her with all my heart, I still get up the same way every morning, at the same time and do the same routines. Didn't effect my core level of existence.

The core level loss would have more to do with yoru emotional state...the ability to function is not necessarily realtive to your custody status...more the trauma and the effect it has upon you.

I do not believe that Ronald Cummings ever did laundry, bought groceries (oh yeah, he did buy beer, ciggies and peanuts) or cared for those children's daily needs. He had other females do that for him. First Crystal, then Amber, then Misty and whenever necessary TN and GGM.

You may not have had what you call a core level loss when you lost your Granny, others may find themselves unable to function and get up at all upon losing a sibling or a child, even one they are not the primary custodial parent of...not being her psychiatrist...I do not think you or I are qualified to assess what type of loss it is or how it affects Crystal. If you are talking daily duties...it has never been proven that RC did one of them.

 

[mysticrose]

Does any one know how monies recieved would be reported if the account had been set up through a bank for donations ?

Maybe I will just call my bank..lol

 

[Pondering Mind]

yes, please do some googling, it would be under such tops as grief. Crystal did not experience a core level loss as Ron and family who were actively supporting and tending to Haleigh on a daily basis. "Daily" will be a key word in core level.

A core level loss is the type of loss that effects your everyday acitivities, your lifestyle, the way you function, how much groceries you buy, how many loads of laundry you do per week, etc.... Ron is the one that lost everything when Haleigh disappeared. That is just a fact whether people want to accept that or not.

The core level loss has nothing to do with what member or persons status is to an individual. I in no way disparaged Crystal as you would have it come across. It's not my fault the truth is the truth, I just made a simple statement that Ron is the one with that core level grief effecting his daily functions.

I lost my Granny October 4th, but it didn't effect how many times I clean the hair brush out. Or how many pork chops I have to fry for supper, or how much money is coming into my home. Though I miss Granny and loved her with all my heart, I still get up the same way every morning, at the same time and do the same routines. Didn't effect my core level of existence.

Oh KOOL, I couldn't disagree with you more on this one, truly. I'm quite surprised to hear that's the way you feel as well.
I'm so sorry about the loss of your Granny, but there is no family member or the loss of any family member that could compare with the loss of your child, I assure you. That's a FACT....and I would be stunned if anyone that has ever experienced that loss as well as the loss of a mother, father, grandmother, sibling, etc. ..would disagree.

 

[Malesherbes]

The core level loss would have more to do with yoru emotional state...the ability to function is not necessarily realtive to your custody status...more the trauma and the effect it has upon you.

I do not believe that Ronald Cummings ever did laundry, bought groceries (oh yeah, he did buy beer, ciggies and peanuts) or cared for those children's daily needs. He had other females do that for him. First Crystal, then Amber, then Misty and whenever necessary TN and GGM.

You may not have had what you call a core level loss when you lost your Granny, others may find themselves unable to function and get up at all upon losing a sibling or a child, even one they are not the primary custodial parent of...not being her psychiatrist...I do not think you or I are qualified to assess what type of loss it is or how it affects Crystal. If you are talking daily duties...it has never been proven that RC did one of them.

Lets be real-

If Ron was going to work at what 5 ish, he basically saw Haleigh for about an hour or two a day- everyday- its really not like Ron has so many more hours over Crystal anyways-

How sad that anyone can sit and act like one parent grieves harder-

 

[stilettos]

Does any one know how monies recieved would be reported if the account had been set up through a bank for donations ?

Maybe I will just call my bank..lol

Great idea.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

You are correct, and I edited my post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK
I'll stand with you if you ask the same of the Haleighbug Center and foundation set up by Crystal, Marie, Kim Picazio and Jeremy. Not to mention, that's the foundations, there's concerts, and donations etc.... made outside of these foundations. If we're going to wonder and ask, we should be interested in knowing what everyone is up too.

Ron had a core level loss with Haleigh's disappearance, Crystal and family did not. IMO, there should have been only one family foundation in Haleigh's name.

quote by Stilletos in red

BBM I am quite literally stunned. Core level loss?????? The loss of a child is no greater or lesser for the custodial and noncustodial parent. the child carries DNA from both parents...she is Crystal's child and Marie's Grandchild. No less of a loss. I am going to spend a little time googling core level loss to see if it is a legal term, some family term or exactly what that means. The death of a child is just that, the death of your child. Color me confused.

Clearly with the boldings in these two posts and literally being stunned, what are you saying then?

 

[stilettos]

You are correct, and I edited my posts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK
I'll stand with you if you ask the same of the Haleighbug Center and foundation set up by Crystal, Marie, Kim Picazio and Jeremy. Not to mention, that's the foundations, there's concerts, and donations etc.... made outside of these foundations. If we're going to wonder and ask, we should be interested in knowing what everyone is up too.

Ron had a core level loss with Haleigh's disappearance, Crystal and family did not. IMO, there should have been only one family foundation in Haleigh's name.

quote by Stilletos

BBM I am quite literally stunned. Core level loss?????? The loss of a child is no greater or lesser for the custodial and noncustodial parent. the child carries DNA from both parents...she is Crystal's child and Marie's Grandchild. No less of a loss. I am going to spend a little time googling core level loss to see if it is a legal term, some family term or exactly what that means. The death of a child is just that, the death of your child. Color me confused.

With the boldings in the two posts above by you, clearly you had some type of problem with my posts as you state you are literally stunned and confused. Elaborate on stunned.

My post and statement referred to your posted words. We are allowed by TOS to speak to the post and not the poster. You responded using my nic in a personal way and accused me of saying "despicable". I did not say that. Any further elaboration should be made by the mods.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Since I am not the person who reported it..how in the world would I know how long the investigation has been going on? It has been mentioned here at WS in the past that online blogging posters have reported Crystal's foundation....

stilettos, I have 0, nada, nilch doubt that it has been reported by quite a few and most likely more than once by those reporting. Since we have heard nothing....and we will if there is any wrongdoing (cause it will be public record) it is all speculation IMHO and nothing more than fuel to add where a fire is trying to be made. As I said earlier, I would be shocked if anyone was rolling in the dough from donations considering HaLeighs name is rarely mentioned outside the internet anymore. But that's jovho...

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Lets be real-

If Ron was going to work at what 5 ish, he basically saw Haleigh for about an hour or two a day- everyday- its really not like Ron has so many more hours over Crystal anyways-

How sad that anyone can sit and act like one parent grieves harder-

bbm, that's your words not mine. I never said one or the other parent grieved harder than the other. I pointed out the type of loss Ron has had. The type that effects your everyday life and routines.

Desparaging Ron doesn't change what has happened, nor change the opinions of those who see what it is.

 

[Malesherbes]

bbm, that's your words not mine. I never said one or the other parent grieved harder than the other. I pointed out the type of loss Ron has had. The type that effects your everyday life and routines.

Desparaging Ron doesn't change what has happened, nor change the opinions of those who see what it is.

To even post something insinuating Ron is hurting more or has experienced more loss than Crystal and Marie IS disparaging Haleigh, and its not right- JMO

 

[mysticrose]

Great idea.

Thanks, but I forgot todays is Saturday...lol My Bank closed at noon..(duh)

 

[debs]

The tone of this entire thread is not only distasteful, but just one bait trap after another.

 

[Trident]

bbm, that's your words not mine. I never said one or the other parent grieved harder than the other. I pointed out the type of loss Ron has had. The type that effects your everyday life and routines.

Desparaging Ron doesn't change what has happened, nor change the opinions of those who see what it is.

In my opinion no loss, no matter what you choose to call it, can compare to a mother's grief for the loss of her child. Mother love is the most natural, beautiful thing on earth and no heart can hurt like a mother's heart over the loss of her baby.

MOO

 

[Trident]

Thanks, but I forgot todays is Saturday...lol My Bank closed at noon..(duh)

Monday will do :dance:

 

[mysticrose]

I'll stand with you if you ask the same of the Haleighbug Center and foundation set up by Crystal, Marie, Kim Picazio and Jeremy. Not to mention, that's the foundations, there's concerts, and donations etc.... made outside of these foundations. If we're going to wonder and ask, we should be interested in knowing what everyone is up too.

Ron had a core level loss with Haleigh's disappearance, Crystal and family did not. IMO, there should have been only one family foundation in Haleigh's name.

I think so far there is only one foundation started and that is the " Haleighbug Foundation" started by Crystal and her attorney and Ron can choose to support this. You are correct there should only be one and one that works for Haleighs continued search.
JMHO...

 

[elle1919]

The tone of this entire thread is not only distasteful, but just one bait trap after another.

Well now there is something I can agree with.

 

[Baznme]

No, in fact, I think it's a great idea! What is dishonest is to say the money will be used for searches and to add to the reward money and then NOT do that. If CS and MG want to collect donations to pay their bills, take vacations, buy 4 wheelers, etc., etc., I don't care, just don't collect the money under the guise of doing it for Haleigh's benefit. And that's MOO.

I do agree with you 100% on this. I wasn't aware it was the site CS and MG had set up. I thought you were talking about other organizations that sponsor searches.

 

[curvecuti]

I am still waiting for the link to show me and everyone who reads here that these donations have not been being used for such, and that these people are being dishonest ? I will find the link but I do believe there was an increase in the reward. just recently

Everything for the Haleighbug center will be on the annual report as soon as the year ends. Can't wait to see the report so that some of this nonsense talk can be put to rest.
JMHO...

BBM, well if that's the case Crimestoppers is lagging 'cause they still only show $30000. Also, as much coverage as this case has had, I believe we know of all searches that have been done. They may have fiananced the fake search w/ the planted evidence but it don't think that search broke the bank. IMO. This foundation has been in business lng enough that if they were going to add more donation money it could have been done long ago. IMO. If it were my child I'd try t boost the reward as high as possible, but that's just me. :twocents:

 

[curvecuti]

I think so far there is only one foundation started and that is the " Haleighbug Foundation" started by Crystal and her attorney and Ron can choose to support this. You are correct there should only be one and one that works for Haleighs continued search.
JMHO...

When have they contributed to a search?

 

[amorfati]

No, in fact, I think it's a great idea! What is dishonest is to say . If CS and MG want to collect donations to pay their bills, take vacations, buy 4 wheelers, etc., etc., I don't care, just don't collect the money under the guise of doing it for Haleigh's benefit. And that's MOO.

You have no proof that "the money will be used for searches and to add to the reward money and then NOT do that".

You have no proof that " CS and MG want to collect donations to pay their bills, take vacations, buy 4 wheelers, etc., etc., I don't care, just don't collect the money under the guise of doing it for Haleigh's benefit".

This adds nothing to valid discussion. This post is a poorly disguised smear, plain and simple.