Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

[cyberborg]

The whole point of this interview was to rehab GA's image. The only way that happens is to distance him from the nonsense that was said in the trial. So of course this strategy was discussed between themselves and their attorney before they went on the interview.

I tended to sense the clips I saw on HLN were scripted/planned. It seemed that they had roles. GA's role was moral outrage and to say all of the right things to clear his name while CA's role was to dilute and rehabilitate FCA (and thus herself).

CA worked hard on some fanciful explanations to excuse FCA and herself ... but the dumping of Caylee's remains excuse crossed all lines of common decency.

I would not be surprised if this wasn't well planned in terms of topics, messages, roles, etc in coordination with DT/FCA ... at least by CA.

 

[natsound]

How sickening that she would even have an opinion on what her parents do within their marriage! Shows how much power she had within that family.

As far as KC not wanting GA to come back home after their split, this would have been golden for the defense to pounce on during the trial. Hmmm.

 

[Searchfortruth]

After seeing Cindy's comment to George about locking the shed "again", what must she blame him for, in the privacy of their own home ?

 

[Justin Tyme]

Nothing could ever make me stop loving or turn my back on my child. I'd what to get to the root of why, what exactly happened and I would want to help them get better...no matter what.

I think GA & CA & LE are all victims too. This is what happens to people when they live with and love a psychopath. It's hard to wrap the mind around.

Many people here believe it was an accidental overdose. A form of denial imo. It wasn't. There is zero evidence of that. That baby...imo...was murdered deliberately with malice and forethought. That's what the evidence is. I just hope to God she was knocked out by the chloroform before the duct tape was applied and never woke up.

Where did I say I would stop loving my child?

 

[lowens1975]

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I had never heard that FCA didn't want GA to come back home after they had split. I thought that was interesting.

Of course she didn't want him to come back, nobody else in the family would dare make her do what she was suppose to do or make her tell the truth. She hates him because of it, too. As long as GA and CA were (and are) together, FCA would never have CA to enable her. I still think the 'household weapons' and 'neckbreaking' was for GA, and possibly CA too.

 

[Wishbone]

Welcome! What a great first post. "People of the Lie, the Psychology of Evil" (Scott Peck) is a perfect suggestion that I was going to post when I got around to it. My therapist had me read it years ago, to help me understand the dynamics in my own family and realize I wasn't the "crazy" one.

Cindy behaves in some ways that are so familiar to me, and in many ways much worse than I experienced. The section of your post I bolded hits the nail right on the head...this is the kind of mentality my own mother has. Everything is always about her, everything.

The whole anthony family with KC as the lead character belongs in a new chapter of Scott Peck's book, “The People of the Lie.”

Best book on evil that I have read.......

 

[Concerned Papa]

Cindy: Oh absolutely, Caylee has been my number 1 focus for 3 years. And I in no way would ever disrespect Caylee's remains

She wouldn't disrespect Caylee's remains? She left her little skeletonized body in a cardboard box at a funeral home for WEEKS! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[MarthaM]

FCA was already an adult and shouldn't have been living in the house in the first place. It was non of her business what her parents did at that point. FCA had all the power in the world and she used it by killing their beloved Granddaughter. FCA used that child to get what she wanted. She didn't want GA back because he saw right through the lieing coniving baby killer.

Why shouldn't an adult child be living in her parents' house? Plenty do, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not sure what you mean by that part.

And marital discord is a child's business, too (even an adult child) because they're part of the family and it does directly affect them. I can't think of a single family in which that's not true, or in which the children didn't have an opinion.

I'm not saying that I think Casey had good or valid reasons for not wanting her father back in the house; I do think that she probably felt that her life would be much better if he wasn't there. But I can't say that it wasn't any of her business, that she shouldn't have expressed an opinion about the situation, or that she shouldn't have been living there.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I tended to sense the clips I saw on HLN were scripted/planned. It seemed that they had roles. GA's role was moral outrage and to say all of the right things to clear his name while CA's role was to dilute and rehabilitate FCA (and thus herself).

CA worked hard on some fanciful explanations to excuse FCA and herself ... but the dumping of Caylee's remains excuse crossed all lines of common decency.I would not be surprised if this wasn't well planned in terms of topics, messages, roles, etc in coordination with DT/FCA ... at least by CA.

I couldn't agree with you more. THAT was, thus far, THE ABSOLUTE most outrageous statement Cindy Anthony has yet to spew.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I have never in my life witnessed someone as deeply in denial as Cindy Anthony.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I guess if Casey's remains were located out in the woods, with duct tape wrapped around her face, Cindy's response would be, "well, the body is just a shell". Somehow, I think not.

 

[natsound]

I have never in my life witnessed someone as deeply in denial as Cindy Anthony.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

O/T, but I interviewed a mom recently who lost a son to an accident back in 1982. She couldn't even tell me if the accused had a jury trial, and she didn't know pertinent details about the accident. She just couldn't face it. I was amazed. She apparently left the state shortly after the accident, then came back, but still could not face reality. It's similar to CA in that she just can't, or won't face reality. She's scared to death of it, but it would do her a world of good.

 

[Melanie]

How sickening that she would even have an opinion on what her parents do within their marriage! Shows how much power she had within that family.

Not to get too OT (since this is about Dr. P), but I can see how CFCMA wanted GA out -- he asked too many questions about stolen money and lies. Mummy didn't. Can you imagine what CFCMA could get away with if GA wasn't in the picture.

Then again, she did get away with the ultimate crime....murder! I don't believe there will be any rehabilitation for CFCMA and we will one day see her behind bars (ala OJ).

MOO

Mel

 

[sharpar]

Its not denial - its delusion and very entrenched IMO -

 

[Azcrabcakes]

bbm
reading through this thread and just came upon this post....

I remember reading here in the past and people here commenting on the several "silent" videos that were taken of little Caylee playing on a bed, also one she was dancing around, where the video taker (assumed it was the felon) did not speak a word to Caylee, the video taker was just observing Caylee in absolute silence. Caylee would look at the videographer like she wished the person would engage her, it seemed to me.

It was commented on how very odd those videos were, and I specifically remember this because of how odd I also thought it was. I have a 4 year old granddaughter, and I cannot imagine videoing her dancing around, having a ball, without saying something as the videographer. Even when I take her pictures I talk to her and kid around with her. I thought at the time and when I read this comment above, I think it speaks volumes of how Caylee was treated by the felon when no one was around. IMO, MOO, etc.

I felt those "silent" videos were odd too, although no one but a few WS members ever said anything about them. Never heard anything on TV, and I watched A LOT!

Sometimes though, what *I* find odd, no one else does, so I thought maybe I was in the minority. I find it odd, and neglectful for moms to walk ahead of their toddlers, esp. while gabbing on a cell. They can't SEE the child, and certainly are not engaged with it. I mention this to my daughter and others and they see nothing wrong with it. I have dozens of other examples, and after a time, do question myself!

 

[LambChop]

Why shouldn't an adult child be living in her parents' house? Plenty do, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not sure what you mean by that part.

And marital discord is a child's business, too (even an adult child) because they're part of the family and it does directly affect them. I can't think of a single family in which that's not true, or in which the children didn't have an opinion.

I'm not saying that I think Casey had good or valid reasons for not wanting her father back in the house; I do think that she probably felt that her life would be much better if he wasn't there. But I can't say that it wasn't any of her business, that she shouldn't have expressed an opinion about the situation, or that she shouldn't have been living there.

Not if she was the cause of the problem, which I imagine she was. At this time KC was seeing JG and made remarks to JG about GA and LA it appears to turn JG against them. This seems to be a theme in that household.

I also didn't see KC having any problems with that lie in the OS about GA. I noticed when JB started talking about it KC's jaw jutted out which is a huge sign of deceit. I think KC likes to get even. All that lovey, dovey business when she met with her father was to keep him for testifying to the Grand Jury. After he testified KC wanted no more to do with either one of her parents and still doesn't. I think KC was the problem in that household and her lies about getting the house should prove to the A's just how close they almost became the one's whose bodies would have been lying in the swamp with the animals tearing them apart. jmo

 

[Melanie]

After seeing Cindy's comment to George about locking the shed "again", what must she blame him for, in the privacy of their own home ?

I know, right! I tried to digest why they spent SO much time on GA's gambling "problem" on the show. And why CA seemed to equate George's gambling with Caylee Marie's demise and what, exactly, did it have to do with anything.

Yup, George was to blame for CFCMA getting the shovel from the neighbor because "yet again" the shed was locked. Big ol' mean GA made it inconvenient for CFCMA to get their shovel from storage to do her dastardly deed...wait for it....

DIGGING UP BAMBOO

It's hard to believe that CA still thinks the shovel was used to dig up bamboo.

:banghead:

MOO

Mel

 

[LambChop]

I felt those "silent" videos were odd too, although no one but a few WS members ever said anything about them. Never heard anything on TV, and I watched A LOT!

Sometimes though, what *I* find odd, no one else does, so I thought maybe I was in the minority. I find it odd, and neglectful for moms to walk ahead of their toddlers, esp. while gabbing on a cell. They can't SEE the child, and certainly are not engaged with it. I mention this to my daughter and others and they see nothing wrong with it. I have dozens of other examples, and after a time, do question myself!

Don't...because you are right. jmo

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I have never in my life witnessed someone as deeply in denial as Cindy Anthony.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

That was exactly how I was thinking when I went to bed last night.

However, after reading here today, all of my old feelings of whether she is in denial, or simply lying have sprung up like green shoots in a field at springtime.

 

[Justin Tyme]

She wouldn't disrespect Caylee's remains? She left her little skeletonized body in a cardboard box at a funeral home for WEEKS! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

What I find even more disrepectful is that she had another necklace of Caylee's remains made for the person whose responsible for her death to wear. How sick is that?