Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

[logicalgirl]

Now THIS is what I'm talking about :highfive:

What a great conversation about the A's in this thread ! Many diverse opinions and experiences .
Sometimes it makes me crazy trying to figure the Anthony's out,but all of these posts have me thinking.

OT ,but did y'all know if a goat gets separated from the herd ,it calls out to them, AND SOUNDS LIKE IT"S DYING ! :crazy: Such a :dramaqueen:
I'm listening to her as I type. Same thing if they get a single drop of rain on them . :floorlaugh:

Completely agree with your first paragraph - I don't have a lot to say about this "subject" - my brain section for the Anthony's is just plain worn out - but I want to thank all the posters for their diverse answers - it's great to just read along....

And um...MissJames...so are you saying Cindy...has been...um...cut out from the herd and is sounding like your goat who got separated? Or..was I just making too quick a leap there.....:innocent:

 

[logicalgirl]

I don't think LE asked them. I think it may have been the media and they said they would until LA said no that they should not do it. Guess LA as afraid they'd be asked something they could not answer truthfully. Or he just knew his mother. lol jmo

Actually I remember Lee's lawyer and I'm darned if I can remember his name off the top of my head, making a statement that he advised Lee not to take a lie detector test - that there was no reason for it.

 

[hornswoggled]

Thanks. Every time I re-watch these videos I get angry. The A's NEVER just answer a question! He is so defiant! it takes far longer to say "I'm not going to answer that because you just asked who was watching my daughter Casey" than cooperatively say "Did you mean who was watching Caylee?". It was a slip of the tongue bur GA becomes defensive and defiant. WOW.

I know the detectives are used to working with uncooperative people, but the Ants take the cake! I don't think I could dance around an interrogation like the Ants if I tried my Pilsbury best!

George comes off as sounding like a child. A very petulant child. Chin jutted out, smirky face. It makes him look so very foolish. He must have been a very poor detective, or he would have known better than to behave like that in a deposition. Cindy had the same bad attitude when she was deposed. After behaving like that, they want sympathy? They want people to "contribute" to their foundation? The only thing either of them accomplished was to show everyone what they are really made of. They both appear uneducated and crooked as snakes.

 

[MsMacGyver]

My daughter and I have had more than a few discussions about how stupid both CA and the felons lies are. GA is a different story. I think because he appears to be CA little whipping boy they may discount the fact that he hides in the weeds while always thinking deep thoughts. CA as a former nurse comes up with a disorder on national TV that some media doctors are saying doesn't even exist. Does CA do her homework or do these thoughts just pop into her head and out her mouth before thinking. GA, former LE, creeps into his opinions, uses possibly ALOT. They both say they know in their hearts, what does this mean to them..does it have the same meaning to someone else. It always sounds like they are lieing when they say this, not sure why. At the beginning of the case I wondered why Lee never went into LE, he seemed to be very good at investigating but then I always wondered if he didn't just want to be close to the investigation for some other reason which I won't expand on. If you take a few steps back and look at everything as a whole you have to ask yourself why, if the A's thought this was just a terrible accident then why not tell the whole truth and find the answers they are so desperately looking for...maybe because there's so much evidence pointing to a murder. Myself, I would never take a lie detector test, they are not reliable and there have been cases where innocent people have been drawn into a case because of it. I think LE is very capable at detecting lies without it and found it interesting that they asked the A's to do it....I'm sure LE saw ALOT of things with their trained eyes that I missed..Love those guys in uniform!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The question I want to ask Cindy is, "Did you just say that you had been told that Caylee's body wasn't found where KC left it? What the heck to you mean by that?!!! Who said that to you? Was it Baez? Do you have knowledge that it was Baez who sent Dominic KC to look for Caylee? If so, doesn't that prove to you point blank that KC put Caylee in that swamp!!!?"

Yolorado, now that is a very good question.

Maybe you can email Dr. Phil's show and ask him if he ever did a follow up question that he didnt show about that very issue.

He said he reads the comment section too.

IMO

 

[MsMacGyver]

The question I want to ask Cindy is, "Did you just say that you had been told that Caylee's body wasn't found where KC left it? What the heck to you mean by that?!!! Who said that to you? Was it Baez? Do you have knowledge that it was Baez who sent Dominic KC to look for Caylee? If so, doesn't that prove to you point blank that KC put Caylee in that swamp!!!?"

If M&M didn't tape these interviews then they are not worth their salt. Fingers crossed that this question raises it's head during the felons depo in Oct. Watch for DT scrambling for another delay. CA will never learn to stop talking......:crazy::crazy::crazy:

 

[Intermezzo]

I always thought the reason they all refused the lie detector test was that they all back-pedalled on the story about the fight Cindy and Casey had the night before Casey left with Caylee. It was one of the many things that made people suspect that at least one of the Anthony's was in this with Casey. It's hard to fathom innocent people waging a campaign of disinformation they way George and Cindy did.

From what I remember..George and Cindy were prepared to take the lie detector tests..but Lee refused and then convinced his parents to refuse as well

 

[Intermezzo]

Reading your post,I just realized it was probably Cindy who tipped off LE about the gun. She didn't want George confronting Casey.

Okay,Dr. Phil needs to do at least one more show with the Anthony's and have a panel of WSers asking the questions. :woohoo:

IIRC, Yuri said they were tipped off by the gun shop owner...does anyone remember Yuri saying this

 

[logicalgirl]

From what I remember..George and Cindy were prepared to take the lie detector tests..but Lee refused and then convinced his parents to refuse as well

But again, who wanted them to take lie detector tests in the first place? I do not recall the LE discussing them because I believe from the get go they were focused on FCA.

This is a source of debate for a long time but I cannot find where the subject of lie detector tests even came up. Usually IMO the police do not say okay I want you all to take lie detector tests. And there is no way George would initially agree to one, being ex LE. Why would the police suggest lie detector tests to frantic family members? It makes no sense to me which is why I think it is just one of those urban myths that just roll along in this case.

 

[Intermezzo]

Actually I remember Lee's lawyer and I'm darned if I can remember his name off the top of my head, making a statement that he advised Lee not to take a lie detector test - that there was no reason for it.

Thomas Luka?

 

[Intermezzo]

But again, who wanted them to take lie detector tests in the first place? I do not recall the LE discussing them because I believe from the get go they were focused on FCA.

This is a source of debate for a long time but I cannot find where the subject of lie detector tests even came up. Usually IMO the police do not say okay I want you all to take lie detector tests. And there is no way George would initially agree to one, being ex LE. Why would the police suggest lie detector tests to frantic family members? It makes no sense to me which is why I think it is just one of those urban myths that just roll along in this case.

I'm not sure LG..perhaps the issue of LE asking them to taking a lie detector test came up when it was revealed that Jesse, Amy, and others..took the test
But I am not certain who wanted the A's to take the test

 

[krisskross]

I don't think LE asked them. I think it may have been the media and they said they would until LA said no that they should not do it. Guess LA as afraid they'd be asked something they could not answer truthfully. Or he just knew his mother. lol jmo

Seems the FBI asked and they refused........ unlike those friends of FCA that Cindy tried to implicate early on. Imagine that. :waitasec:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224751/detail.html

 

[Nefriahaia]

They both appear uneducated and crooked as snakes.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

[BuzzieCat]

My Caylee is missing.
current mood..distraught...No money, no future. Where did she go. Who is now watching out for the little angel..{ sic throughout}

Sounds like maybe CA is posting this message more in defense of herself, sounds like CA may have even talked to some of the friends and was told something.

The felon posts her message on July 7

On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself
With great power comes great consequence
What is given can be taken away
Everyone Lies
Everyone Dies

Was this a message to CA from the felon on July 7 telling her when the chit hits the fan, keep your mouth shut?..CA sure didn't listen.

Bold by me - This right here shows that CA knew there was no job, no nanny, and therefore the excuses FCA was making for Caylee's absence were lies.

FCA's response is quite telling IMO.

The problem with KC was she was asking for another credit card for her mother's account, a duplicate IMO online. She could have done the same for the checks. I just don't see how CA could have missing checks, not recorded and not know about it. Plus mail comes to the household and my guess is the only one around to pick it up would have been KC. All the information she would need to steal money. jmo

Should have put a fraud alert or something on her credit card(s) if she had to, or changed the PIN or something to make it more secure. Change all her passwords. Have any mail regarding financial info sent to a PO box. Keep purse and wallet and checkbook under lock and key or on person at all times. But I suppose doing all that would have required CA to admit to herself that something was wrong.

 

[MissJames]

Completely agree with your first paragraph - I don't have a lot to say about this "subject" - my brain section for the Anthony's is just plain worn out - but I want to thank all the posters for their diverse answers - it's great to just read along....

And um...MissJames...so are you saying Cindy...has been...um...cut out from the herd and is sounding like your goat who got separated? Or..was I just making too quick a leap there.....:innocent:

:lol: I was just talking about my goats ! They can be pretty self-centered ,but they are usually good mothers.

 

[MissJames]

Seems the FBI asked and they refused........ unlike those friends of FCA that Cindy tried to implicate early on. Imagine that. :waitasec:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224751/detail.html

Thank You ,Krisskross. That's the document I was referring to.

 

[marge_rita]

Love your point. Animals make better parents than some humans.

 

[MissJames]

But again, who wanted them to take lie detector tests in the first place? I do not recall the LE discussing them because I believe from the get go they were focused on FCA.

This is a source of debate for a long time but I cannot find where the subject of lie detector tests even came up. Usually IMO the police do not say okay I want you all to take lie detector tests. And there is no way George would initially agree to one, being ex LE. Why would the police suggest lie detector tests to frantic family members? It makes no sense to me which is why I think it is just one of those urban myths that just roll along in this case.

They were asked very early on in the case,when the lies were piling up ,long before Lee got a lawyer.
Lee may have been asked to comply again,when he was requesting immunity,but I'm referring to earlier than that.

 

[crimesnooper]

George comes off as sounding like a child. A very petulant child. Chin jutted out, smirky face. It makes him look so very foolish. He must have been a very poor detective, or he would have known better than to behave like that in a deposition. Cindy had the same bad attitude when she was deposed. After behaving like that, they want sympathy? They want people to "contribute" to their foundation? The only thing either of them accomplished was to show everyone what they are really made of. They both appear uneducated and crooked as snakes.

TA Also,the media keeps calling GA a former detective, but he was a cop for a small, small Ohio city and a sherrif's deputy for a small rural Ohio county. I do not beleive he was ever a real detective and frankly, he is not the brightest bulb in the pack.

 

[LambChop]

Bold by me - This right here shows that CA knew there was no job, no nanny, and therefore the excuses FCA was making for Caylee's absence were lies.

FCA's response is quite telling IMO.



Should have put a fraud alert or something on her credit card(s) if she had to, or changed the PIN or something to make it more secure. Change all her passwords. Have any mail regarding financial info sent to a PO box. Keep purse and wallet and checkbook under lock and key or on person at all times. But I suppose doing all that would have required CA to admit to herself that something was wrong.

Would have been easier just to tell her to leave.