Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

[snowdaze]

Oh, for gods sake! There's an excuse for everything! Why should we be surprised anymore?

 

[What'sThatClue]

Well, Monday's Dr. Phil has more of Cindy and George.
35 minutes in and nothing exciting so far.

Cindy actually believes there was more evidence of drowning than anything else.

She thinks the jurors felt (and Cindy agrees) that the State didn't prove their burden.

She thinks the jurors basically picked and choosed (my words) what they wanted from the defense theory - they didn't believe the molestation but did believe Caylee drowned and Casey panicked.

Cindy KNOWS George didn't molest Casey - Dr. Phil asked if she confronted George after hearing the accusations and she said "I didn't need to" because she knew it wasn't true.

yada yada yada.

Cindy alone with Dr. Phil next.........

Oh, and George wanted guilty of something and Cindy hoped and prayed for NG's.
When George heard the 3rd NG he thought "OMG, my daughter is gonna walk out of here" and was devastated. Cindy was elated.


ETA:
And Cindy thinks George believing Casey's involvement is because he's so "hurt" from her/JB's accusations.

GMAB.

Drowning....yet they still have the pool. And, what evidence of drowning? Aside from the ladder and who knows how true that was.

Btw...thank you sooo much, Fifteen89!!!

 

[snowdaze]

Didn't someone post here that back in 2008 there weren't popup suggestions when you googled? Like if Cindy googled chlorophyll - it wouldn't "prompt it to go to chloroform" like Cindy says?

Yes, I remember seeing that too. I asked my son about it (who's very tech savvy) and he agrees. Google did not do that back then.

 

[fifteen89]

According to Dr. Phil, Cindy says if there's a mistake on the number of times chloroform was searched, there could be a glitch with the time it says the search was done too.

Message from Casey through her lawyer "that she loves us, all of us, and when the time is right....."

 

[Solace]

I’ll be thinking of you everyday Cindy---stay strong. I now believe CA never cared for Caylee. I believe CA's lack of feeling for Caylee comes from CA feelings towards Caylee's father. I still believe in KARMA, it's gonna get you CA

Karma has already gotten Cindy; what else can happen to her. Her granddaughter is dead and her daughter killed her.

Cindy loved Caylee very much, but she never thought her daughter would kill her, never. Who would think that. She just figured she is irresponsible and I want Caylee here so I don't want to rock the KC boat. But she knew that things were coming to a head and they may have come to a head June 15th and they had a huge argument.

I also think Cindy wanted a baby in the house. She is a registered nurse and she knew KC was pregnant and let it go. She knew that she was too immature to have a child and take care of her, but Cindy, imo, wanted a baby in the house.

Knowing all of this about Cindy, I still don't believe that she needs to be knocked down anymore than she has. The woman is living in profound denial and this denial is about a scintilla of an inch below the surface. It is not even a subconcious awareness, she is AWARE that her daughter killed Caylee. She just can't admit this or she has to admit that she failed. I don't know how much more karma one needs, but she has gotten hers for sure. It is very hard to feel compassion for Cindy especially when she is smug in the interviews, but she is suffering still. She does not need to be nailed to the cross.

 

[sumbunny]

According to Dr. Phil, Cindy says if there's a mistake on the number of times chloroform was searched, there could be a glitch with the time it says the search was done too.

Message from Casey through her lawyer "that she loves us, all of us, and when the time is right....."

BBM-

She'll tell how/why she murdered her baby??? ***wishful thinking on my part***

 

[Solace]

according to dr. Phil, cindy says if there's a mistake on the number of times chloroform was searched, there could be a glitch with the time it says the search was done too.

Message from casey through her lawyer "that she loves us, all of us, and when the time is right....."

what, is this happening now.

 

[Solace]

BBM-

She'll tell how she murdered her baby???

no, she'll see them when the time is right. I bet George is real happy about that.

 

[jon_burrows]

Although Cindy may have given away more than she intended I still think every question and answer was cleared by CA/GA and their attorney.

Point 1 - Cindy said she believed FCA was employed, loved Caylee and was a good mother. In fact, she thought FCA was working two jobs (lol). When Phil showed Cindy's myspace post he conveniently left out part of her post. The part that screams FCA was an unfit mother and was unable to care for Caylee. This omission was no accident, here is what he left out of the interview:

"What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

Point 2 - GA said he did everything to clear his name, voice analysis, etc. He lied by omission because he refused a polygraph. Phil never asked about the polygraph.

Point 3 - GA/CA trivialized her stealing. She stole a lot more than $20 here and there. She wrote hundreds of checks from her mother.

Point 4 - Cindy said she would never take Caylee away but it's right there on the 911 tape. Phil played clips of the 911 call but left out Cindy's threat to take Caylee while she was on hold.

The biggest slip up from Cindy was when she said FCA's stealing from her parents broke the camel's back. The neighbors said they heard loud arguments from that house so poor Caylee was probably used to the fights and was probably terrified each time. There is no way Cindy came home from the nursing home and snuggled up to FCA to look at the video she took that day.

I can't believe I'm going to say this but I hope they continue on the interview circuit. They both slip up -- too many lies to keep track of. Perhaps one more lie will break the camel's back and CA/GA will be charged with perjury.

MOO

 

[fifteen89]

Cindy hopes she gets the therapy that she needs.

If Casey showed up on their front porch tomorrow and said "I'm broke, I'm lost, I wanna come home" --- Cindy and Lee would find a place for her, don't think it would be possible in their homes. George - not welcome while I'm there.

Two minutes spent on Caylee's Fund and Caylee's Law.

Dr. Phil said they were candid and honest and shook their hands.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????
More like George was and Cindy is delusional. imo

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Drowning....yet they still have the pool. And, what evidence of drowning? Aside from the ladder and who knows how true that was.

Btw...thank you sooo much, Fifteen89!!!

Funny how CA so readily believes the drowning theory...it brings up the question from waaay back when there was the discussion on CA and GA transplanting a shrub that had been by the pool in the middle of summer. GA putting lyme on the yard when it wasn't the season to put lyme out and something about moving a storage box that was near the pool. That back yard is holding a lot of secrets in MHO.

 

[Solace]

Funny how CA so readily believes the drowning theory...it brings up the question from waaay back when there was the discussion on CA and GA transplanting a shrub that had been by the pool in the middle of summer. GA putting lyme on the yard when it wasn't the season to put lyme out and something about moving a storage box that was near the pool. That back yard is holding a lot of secrets in MHO.

The back yard was completely checked by LE. It holds no secrets.

 

[Well Done 99]

And Cindy thinks George believing Casey's involvement is because he's so "hurt" from her/JB's accusations.

+snipped for space+

Again with the excuses.
Because she can't see it herself, she will not concede that George might simply be thinking like a normal person would. Has it not occured to her that George believes Casey was involved because it is a logical conclusion?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

:cow:

For over 3+ years now, all we have heard is "LIE after LIE after LIE" from the Anthony's ... ALL OF THEM ! And not only are their LIES "out of control" and "over the top", but their "behavior" and "cover-ups" are just as OUTRAGEOUS !

And the DP Show is giving the Anthony's 3 hours -- not 1 hour -- but 3 hours of interviews ... it is just outrageous to give "liars" this much air time ...

What I have NEVER understood is WHY the Anthony's have NEVER been HELD ACCOUNTABLE for any of THEIR LIES ? Especially when PERJURY was committed on the witness stand by Cindy ! It is absolutely "mind boggling" how ALL of the Anthony's have been given a "pass" after each and every LIE !

WHEN will the Anthony's be held ACCOUNTABLE for their LIES ?

Cindy and George got what they "really" wanted : their "daughter" to be free ... Caylee was "second" in the Anthony's life -- Casey was always "first" :sick::sick::sick: ... and because of Phil McGraw, the Anthony's continue to "rub it in everyone's face" and continue to give the "Anthony middle finger salute" !

As long as TH's like Phil McGraw give the Anthony's "air time" ... the Anthony's will continue with their "middle finger salute" !!

Phil McGraw should be ASHAMED of himself for continuing to perpetuate the Anthony Family's LIES ...

:cow:

 

[sumbunny]

The back yard was completely checked by LE. It holds no secrets.

Just the residue of decomposition that two cadaver dogs hit on, the first day.

Sadly, the jury didn't seem to take that into consideration

 

[Aedrys]

Karma has already gotten Cindy; what else can happen to her. Her granddaughter is dead and her daughter killed her.

Cindy loved Caylee very much, but she never thought her daughter would kill her, never. Who would think that. She just figured she is irresponsible and I want Caylee here so I don't want to rock the KC boat. But she knew that things were coming to a head and they may have come to a head June 15th and they had a huge argument.

I also think Cindy wanted a baby in the house. She is a registered nurse and she knew KC was pregnant and let it go. She knew that she was too immature to have a child and take care of her, but Cindy, imo, wanted a baby in the house.

Knowing all of this about Cindy, I still don't believe that she needs to be knocked down anymore than she has. The woman is living in profound denial and this denial is about a scintilla of an inch below the surface. It is not even a subconcious awareness, she is AWARE that her daughter killed Caylee. She just can't admit this or she has to admit that she failed. I don't know how much more karma one needs, but she has gotten hers for sure. It is very hard to feel compassion for Cindy especially when she is smug in the interviews, but she is suffering still. She does not need to be nailed to the cross.

Part of me agrees with you. However, as long as she keeps making up excuses and not facing reality, I just can't let it go. If she would admit that Casey did this and it wasn't accident, I would consider it a breakthrough. But she keeps making excuses because she doesn't want to believe in her lifetime that Casey did this. The evidence is there. Casey did this. Cindy needs to face up to it. Her daughter is a murderer. As long as she keeps excusing Caylee's death like it was nothing, I will continue to be angry with her. And I don't think anyone is nailing her to the cross. We're angry with her because she refuses to see the truth and thinks she can keep lying and make it her truth. But the more lies she tells, the more outrageous it is, and the only person believing her BS is Cindy.

It's getting to the point that she needs to shut up and go away. She needs to deal with this in private with private help, not out on public television for all to see and get more angry with her. She is doing no favors to herself to keep lying and covering for Casey. Casey is acquitted - what more does she need? What keeps her still lying and covering at this point? She should well enough alone and just live her life. I would respect her a lot more for that than continuing this Casey is innocent crusade.

 

[fifteen89]

Drowning....yet they still have the pool. And, what evidence of drowning? Aside from the ladder and who knows how true that was.

Btw...thank you sooo much, Fifteen89!!!

That's been my point all along. If Cindy or George - either one of them - thought there was even a .000000000000000000001% chance Caylee drowned in their pool, that pool would not still be in their back yard.

 

[fifteen89]

Yes, I remember seeing that too. I asked my son about it (who's very tech savvy) and he agrees. Google did not do that back then.

I wish Dr. Phil had done more research before this interview.
I also wish he would've directly asked Cindy why the pool is still in their back yard.

 

[Aedrys]

The back yard was completely checked by LE. It holds no secrets.

Yes, they did. And funny, no evidence of a drowning was ever found. Yet Cindy believes Caylee drowned. I guess LE is just inept? No, I don't believe that. Cindy is making her own truth here and will stick to it no matter what. If there had been a drowning, LE would have evidence in that backyard of it. The only secrets are being held by the A's, not their backyard.

 

[fifteen89]

Oh geez. JB is on The View to tell why he's on the Aruba guys case.