Dr. Sievers' RHHC Medical Practice - Operations & Website

[MsArk]

I wonder how much TS actually Rx'd "conventional" pharmaceuticals though. Were not the vast majority of her patients approaching a more natural (supplements etc) path to their ailments?

Also, I get how there could have easily been fake patient accounts but there would have been a limit to that even, yes? There were only so many patients she could physically see in a day or week's time.

My mind is swirling with "yes, buts" though I am convinced there was fraud somewhere in that business, undoubtedly purported by CWW and most very likely by MS.

 

[CoolJ]

i think CWW and MS were skimming off of the top of TS' practice, she started to become aware and started checking into things. why was she working has @-- off and there's always a shortage of $$. she starts poking around and they know their gig is up. i also think she was about to boot him out and MS knew it. at CWW's wedding they started planning it. CWW's direct motive was to carry out MS' wishes and to get $15,000 cash - $10,000 to **** JR to do the dirty work.

MS is thinking, 'i MADE her and she is going to kick ME out!". He gets all the $, house and kids. Totally all just my opinion.

If, IF MS was involved in some scam with CW where he was basically stealing from himself, then I think this murder was in the works for yrs. Possibly from the beginning. The ultimate long con.
But I am not anywhere near convinced that is the case as of now.
My hope is that MS has absolutely nothing to do with the demise of his wife and hopefully nothing to do with any criminal activity whatsoever.
For the sake of those girls, how could you hope for anything else?
JMO

 

[PeskySlueth]

If, IF MS was involved in some scam with CW where he was basically stealing from himself, then I think this murder was in the works for yrs. Possibly from the beginning. The ultimate long con.
But I am not anywhere near convinced that is the case as of now.
My hope is that MS has absolutely nothing to do with the demise of his wife and hopefully nothing to do with any criminal activity whatsoever.
For the sake of those girls, how could you hope for anything else?
JMO

For the sake of those precious girls, i have much more concern that MS is going to get away with planning the brutal murder of their beautiful, loving exemplary mother and stuck being raised by a psychopath. i hope for justice for TS.

just my opinion.

 

[relay]

I wonder how much TS actually Rx'd "conventional" pharmaceuticals though. Were not the vast majority of her patients approaching a more natural (supplements etc) path to their ailments?

Also, I get how there could have easily been fake patient accounts but there would have been a limit to that even, yes? There were only so many patients she could physically see in a day or week's time.

My mind is swirling with "yes, buts" though I am convinced there was fraud somewhere in that business, undoubtedly purported by CWW and most very likely by MS.

I also would not be surprised if MS and CWW were somehow making money fraudulently from Dr. Teresa's practice which may have been a prime motive for her murder. MS had it made financially because of Dr. Teresa, so perhaps she was about to or had learned too much. Perhaps there was also an affair. I don't know. But, there must have been good "reason" for MS to have his wife murdered that outweighed what she could do for him or I don't think he would risk murder and the loss of money that Dr. Teresa afforded him. Moo.

 

[DexterMorgan]

The easiest way to steal from your practice is to have a straw patient sue your practice for negligence and then settle it out of court and let the insurance company cut the check to the straw patient that actually was hired by you. Jmo.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I'm bringing this over.

The easiest way to steal from your practice is to have a straw patient sue your practice for negligence and then settle it out of court and let the insurance company cut the check to the straw patient that actually was hired by you. Jmo.

 

[CoolJ]

For the sake of those precious girls, i have much more concern that MS is going to get away with planning the brutal murder of their beautiful, loving exemplary mother and stuck being raised by a psychopath. i hope for justice for TS.

just my opinion.

If he really had something to do with it, he ain't getting away with it. Sherriff Scott and his team are on the ball. I expect numerous arrests. JMO

 

[LvsAMystry]

I'm bringing this over.

The easiest way to steal from your practice is to have a straw patient sue your practice for negligence and then settle it out of court and let the insurance company cut the check to the straw patient that actually was hired by you. Jmo.

That is more typical in say an auto accident mill with a practice grouped in with an atty etc to sue the insurance carriers with false claims. Everyone wins in that scenario, the straw gets a fee, the doctor gets to charge for services, and the atty gets a fee. A patient suing a doctor directly is much different and medical malpractice much much more difficult to prove and obtain money from. Not only that, if TS were being sued directly she'd find out, plus it wouldn't be lucrative in the long term since if repeatedly done it would ruin the reputation of and effectively close the practice.

 

[DexterMorgan]

That is more typical in say an auto accident mill with a practice grouped in with an atty etc to sue the insurance carriers with false claims. Everyone wins in that scenario, the straw gets a fee, the doctor gets to charge for services, and the atty gets a fee. A patient suing a doctor directly is much different and medical malpractice much much more difficult to prove and obtain money from. Not only that, if TS were being sued directly she'd find out, plus it wouldn't be lucrative in the long term since if repeatedly done it would ruin the reputation of and effectively close the practice.

Agree. It would take way more than CWW and MS to pull off a scam like that. Because most doctors work too hard to even want to consider some little 30k scam that will eventually ruin the practice as well as raise your insurance rates.

 

[IQuestion]

The fake person wouldn't pay the bill, but the creation of a fake person would create a (seemingly legitimate) paper trail for illegal profits claimed by the business as income. It might not even be a fake patient, it could be a real patient but a fake bill, one that was never sent to the real patient but "paid" in cash and claimed by the practice or deposited into a bank account associated with the practice and/or MS.

I would assume that if you had to delete "fake records" attributed to or within the real patient record, a simple transfer of medical records wouldn't be so simple anymore.

bbm I FINALLY GOT IT! Money earned from another source, wants to launder cash to make it legit? Let's call the patient IQuestion. IQ used to be a patient of TS. All my info is in the patient data base. Even though I didn't receive any services, someone could "say" I went 3 times and paid $400 each time in cash. The cash gets deposited into the account receivables, $1200. ($400x3=$1200) Then the $1200 is "expensed out" each month as LEGAL & PROFESSIONAL SVCS. (ie....computer services guru fee?). Wow. It would never change the bottom line and the money has been "laundered" as legitimate income. Hmmm....that could work. I think it could even be done "remotely."
I have always found the biggest mistake people make in running a scam, is forgetting to log out of their computers. The screen goes black, hibernates, until the next person touches the mouse and the screen lights up to the incriminating info....and voila, the deception is revealed.

 

[DexterMorgan]

bbm I FINALLY GOT IT! Money earned from another source, wants to launder cash to make it legit? Let's call the patient IQuestion. IQ used to be a patient of TS. All my info is in the patient data base. Even though I didn't receive any services, someone could "say" I went 3 times and paid $400 each time in cash. The cash gets deposited into the account receivables, $1200. ($400x3=$1200) Then the $1200 is "expensed out" each month as LEGAL & PROFESSIONAL SVCS. (ie....computer services guru fee?). Wow. It would never change the bottom line and the money has been "laundered" as legitimate income. Hmmm....that could work. I think it could even be done "remotely."
I have always found the biggest mistake people make in running a scam, is forgetting to log out of their computers. The screen goes black, hibernates, until the next person touches the mouse and the screen lights up to the incriminating info....and voila, the deception is revealed.

I love you IQ. But for the sake of me being a kiljoy at the moment. Lol. I must say this.

I think it would be easier and safer to launder money by paying or saying that you pay a straw employee or a straw pr firm or a straw contractor 100k a year for services that they never render.

Example. We pay our IT guy (cww) 100k a year. Plus if Cww puts it on his taxes. It would seem above boards for everyone. Now once you do patients. Ts would have been more suspicious and pissed off that you used ex or fake patients of hers. Jmo.

 

[IQuestion]

I love you IQ. But for the sake of me being a kiljoy at the moment. Lol. I must say this.

I think it would be easier and safer to launder money by paying or saying that you pay a straw employee or a straw pr firm or a straw contractor 100k a year for services that they never render.

Example. We pay our IT guy (cww) 100k a year. Plus if Cww puts it on his taxes. It would seem above boards for everyone. Now once you do patients. Ts would have been more suspicious and pissed off that you used ex or fake patients of hers. Jmo.

Your name is DEXTERMORGAN....You are SUPPOSED to be a KILJOY! :loveyou::dracula:You are my anti-hero who makes it a point to keep us grounded....in an endearing macabre persona. I totally agree, ULTIMATELY it easier & quicker to steal large amounts of money...but GREED & LAUNDERING is usually a "progressive scheme." The process starting with a small amount of money and gradually increasing as the "participants" become more comfortable with their scheme/deception. Remember, that "cash" had to get to the accounts in Florida (originally) so, suddenly ALL THE 7-11 RUNS TO BONITA SPRINGS, is beginning to make sense.
And in your evil genius anti-hero way, you always lead us down the WRIGHT PATH, huh? TS "would have been more suspicious and pissed off"???
Pissed off enough to verbally threaten or warn? Maybe (like the RB's disappearance) someone decided to silence her...because she threatened to turn them into LE or demanded getting rid of their genius IT guy?
(multiple motives....."in a relationship that no longer serves us"....or them?)
ps...One day, I might get the Wright answers...

 

[IM4TRUTH]

I am new to this. What is the story about ALL the 7/11 runs to Bonita Springs?

 

[creepingskills]

I love you IQ. But for the sake of me being a kiljoy at the moment. Lol. I must say this.

I think it would be easier and safer to launder money by paying or saying that you pay a straw employee or a straw pr firm or a straw contractor 100k a year for services that they never render.

Example. We pay our IT guy (cww) 100k a year. Plus if Cww puts it on his taxes. It would seem above boards for everyone. Now once you do patients. Ts would have been more suspicious and pissed off that you used ex or fake patients of hers. Jmo.

I'm easily confused by taxes/numbers, but if you have a bucket of cash from an illegal source that you want to make legitimate, and thus un-seizable, doesn't it make more sense to come up with a fake PAYOR (a person giving money to the business for a legit reason) than it does to come up with a fake PAYEE (a person receiving money from the business)?

What I'm trying figure out is how paying CWW a fake salary makes it easier to launder money through the practice. If, using your example, CWW is paid $100k. Are you saying that $100k was the illegal profit to be laundered, and this money is diverted to CWW in the form of salary? If that was the case, MS would still have to explain the source of the $100k, how did it end up coming into the practice before going out to CWW.

 

[PeskySlueth]

I am new to this. What is the story about ALL the 7/11 runs to Bonita Springs?

thanks for the info, but please elaborate on the 7-11 runs - i hadn't heard about those and how the runs would make sense with the scam...sorry, i'm not understanding. thanks!

 

[No it's not]

thanks for the info, but please elaborate on the 7-11 runs - i hadn't heard about those and how the runs would make sense with the scam...sorry, i'm not understanding. thanks!

In post #33 of the SKINNER (verified MS friend/insider) thread, the friend posted:

. But all the history you sleuths have brought up about home addresses in Missouri and Florida, is absolutely nothing to write about, but past history - real estate deals, hopeful profits. But in that history, WW has made countless trips to Florida and could almost be viewed by himself as a trip to the local 7-11, as many times as he has driven down there. I'm hoping that, aside from murder, it was just a quick idea with another rascal (JR) to go and do a quick thing.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...erified-Friend*-FL-Dr-Teresa-Sievers-46/page3

 

[DexterMorgan]

I'm easily confused by taxes/numbers, but if you have a bucket of cash from an illegal source that you want to make legitimate, and thus un-seizable, doesn't it make more sense to come up with a fake PAYOR (a person giving money to the business for a legit reason) than it does to come up with a fake PAYEE (a person receiving money from the business)?

What I'm trying figure out is how paying CWW a fake salary makes it easier to launder money through the practice. If, using your example, CWW is paid $100k. Are you saying that $100k was the illegal profit to be laundered, and this money is diverted to CWW in the form of salary? If that was the case, MS would still have to explain the source of the $100k, how did it end up coming into the practice before going out to CWW.

Great question and this is a possible answer.

CWW tells bookeeper MS that he has 100k of dirty money that he needs cleaned in order to not be scrutinized by the feds.

Bookkeeping MS says don't worry. We make 200k net per year here. So I will cook the books to make it look like we only make 100k net due to the 100k we pay you per year for IT work.

Now MS will still have the 200k. 100k legally in the bank that he claims on the business taxes. And 100k underneath the bed at home that he doesn't tell the tax man about.

Plus CWW' s dirty 100k is now legal because the tax man thinks that 100k was his salary.

Plus if Ms does the books and taxes then TS wouldn't know because they still have the 200k. 100 in the bank and 100 in the home.

Btw. This was just a possible laundering method for CWW and MS. But I don't believe this type of laundering went on. Jmo

 

[Southwflorida]

I've looked back at my credit card charges for the past several years. There were always two accounts charged: Dr. Sievers (for the office visit), and RHHC (for supplements). Two transactions - Two accounts. In my case, the only thing that seems odd is a charge for one missed appointment this year that Mark insisted I pay for. I honestly don't believe Dr. Sievers would have charged me, and now I wonder if she even knew.

 

[IM4TRUTH]

I've looked back at my credit card charges for the past several years. There were always two accounts charged: Dr. Sievers (for the office visit), and RHHC (for supplements). Two transactions - Two accounts. In my case, the only thing that seems odd is a charge for one missed appointment this year that Mark insisted I pay for. I honestly don't believe Dr. Sievers would have charged me, and now I wonder if she even knew.

Did you get a receipt for the missed appointment?

 

[noel leon]

No way a meth addict and don't doubt oxcy dependent " genius" is gonna have any cash to launder.