Dreams/Visions?

[Oldsoul2]

Bern and Chesterp...you have both led me to this forum where I have never posted before. I am always on the forensic astro forum but you talked about something that intrigued me regarding Bern's predictions about Haleigh. I have had many visions regarding this case and Caylees, Vitoria staffords etc..... I am going to have a hard time even expressing what I have "picked up" about Haleigh but here it is: I think Misty is definitely indirectly involved, it was her relative that took Haleigh. The man had her in a house, looks to me like a cabin of some sort, brown and remote and raped her profusely for a long while. I believe she is deceased at this point due to his relentlessness. He did not want to give her up. I think the place was not far from her home nor is where he buried her. I have not wanted to think about this child for awhile and haven't been on the Haleigh thread for some time...too disturbing and painful to sense this. I believe she will be found but I'm not sure when. I am so happy that she came to you in a dream....she needs to be found just like Caylee did. My friend is also very clairvoyant and saw caylee come to her before she was found....she said she sat on her lap and kept pointing to a street sign and saying something with an "S" and that she was playing with the animals....we know she was found on chickasaw trail in the woods...I guess for a child it would be pronounced as an "s" ...these stories sadden me to the core.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I am not either one of them, but wanted to say it is interesting you posted this tonight of all nights. Also, I am delighted to see you posting on this thread!

Some of us just began researching her brother who lives right behind the mh, was at the house the evening before around 5:30pm, and who has not been mentioned in this case much up until the recent fight with Haleigh's father.

There is a small outbuilding near a pond at the edge of the property where the dogs tracked to initially. I don't know what it looks like. There are cabins all over the place in and around the area especially on the St. John's River.

Again, thanks for posting~ Please feel free to post more when you can and feel up to it. Haleigh does need to come home.

 

[chesterp]

Bern and Chesterp...you have both led me to this forum where I have never posted before. I am always on the forensic astro forum but you talked about something that intrigued me regarding Bern's predictions about Haleigh. I have had many visions regarding this case and Caylees, Vitoria staffords etc..... I am going to have a hard time even expressing what I have "picked up" about Haleigh but here it is: I think Misty is definitely indirectly involved, it was her relative that took Haleigh. The man had her in a house, looks to me like a cabin of some sort, brown and remote and raped her profusely for a long while. I believe she is deceased at this point due to his relentlessness. He did not want to give her up. I think the place was not far from her home nor is where he buried her. I have not wanted to think about this child for awhile and haven't been on the Haleigh thread for some time...too disturbing and painful to sense this. I believe she will be found but I'm not sure when. I am so happy that she came to you in a dream....she needs to be found just like Caylee did. My friend is also very clairvoyant and saw caylee come to her before she was found....she said she sat on her lap and kept pointing to a street sign and saying something with an "S" and that she was playing with the animals....we know she was found on chickasaw trail in the woods...I guess for a child it would be pronounced as an "s" ...these stories sadden me to the core.

When Caylee spoke to me....she acted like a toddler.....no attention span.... The person I saw SCOOP Haleigh off the mattress on the FLOOR scooting against the WALL....I saw his body and the shirt he was wearing, his arms, I knew he is not a scaggly old man he had muscle tone in his arms.

A bit ago, I saw a man in my dream...his face with in earing I beleive RIGHT ear...one earring not in both ears. Dark hair not bad teeth because he smiled at me. FAllujah...... I was told that so whoever took her, in my dream, is military savy or has been in Iraq...or the Guard...but I was told Fallujah loud and clear.

HOME/CLOSE/TREE.... this is what I was TOLD the first days....

When I had my first dream of Caylee, I asked please do not show me pain or anything to frighten me, I did feel as if my lungs were burning during meditation on Caylee....but nothing gorry shown to me.

So, I believe I have not been shown the horror of what Haleigh went through, ask and you shall receive. Please discuss this with your friend...does the military issue come up with the perp!

I do not think MC had anything to do with this, but indirectly YES, if only I had a family photo album of MC's family....maybe I would see the perp I saw in my dream. I have scoured the SO in all of FL...I was surprised so many females.... My niece is an artist and we tried to sketch to person in my dream...did not work because I could not describe...however, if I saw a picture I know my skin would crawl............

I was also told ROSES...Loud and clear....
I think she is between Hwy17 and the nursery at the end of E. Buffalo Bluff.
I think she will be found in a canal instead of the St.John River....
or.....a spot I went to on BIG TREE ROAD that made me throw up when I got out of the car..a little bit off of Hwy17 in a subdivision.

I feel strongly RC had nothing to do with this.... his parenting skills a different story.

CS I feel she had nothing to do with this....I could feel her pain the times I was with her at Haleighbug...

 

[Busylady]

Bern - could roses possibly be a rose tattoo with a name under it?

 

[Skully]

Bern - could roses possibly be a rose tattoo with a name under it?

Roses can be several things, it can mean a anniversary, a name of something like a street name, or it could be something with a rose on it, or she is by roses.

It's hard when we get these things without clarity.

 

[Skully]

I had this crazy dream that Haleigh was reading our site, and she couldn't believe we didn't solve this yet. She was pointing to the "Cinder block" thread, and said we needed to watch this one. She was also afraid the thread would fade and no one would come anymore, it was a really sad dream for me. I woke up feeling like, what is it you need LE to see? And I hoped that this would get solved because she needs that. I don't know if it is just on my mind or if my guide is coming through, but it made me feel that there is too much discussion about who did what to who in this case and it needs to be about the clues.

I want to bump this dream up. I was thinking about the cinder block today and decided to google manufacturing cinder blocks. I found that all cinder blocks are not the same. The ingredients in the mixture depending on what kind of block they are making. They come in different colors, weights and ingredients. Ron said he never saw that block before. I kept wondering how would he know? Well if the block wasn't made like the ones under the MH or had a different quality to it, that could be the reason. Some manufactures put impressions or designs on them. I thought that it was only part of a whole block that I saw in a video of someone handling the block early on (FBI OR LE). If that is the case, maybe the rest of that block is somewhere else. Or maybe the block could be matched up to several of the manufactores in FL. Find out where they shipped from, or where it came from. I would think that LE or FBI labs would be doing that. Just something else to sleuth.

 

[kamky]

I want to bump this dream up. I was thinking about the cinder block today and decided to google manufacturing cinder blocks. I found that all cinder blocks are not the same. The ingredients in the mixture depending on what kind of block they are making. They come in different colors, weights and ingredients. Ron said he never saw that block before. I kept wondering how would he know? Well if the block wasn't made like the ones under the MH or had a different quality to it, that could be the reason. Some manufactures put impressions or designs on them. I thought that it was only part of a whole block that I saw in a video of someone handling the block early on (FBI OR LE). If that is the case, maybe the rest of that block is somewhere else. Or maybe the block could be matched up to several of the manufactores in FL. Find out where they shipped from, or where it came from. I would think that LE or FBI labs would be doing that. Just something else to sleuth.

I wonder if this particular cinder block could be matched to ones in the yards of any nearby houses. Sure hope LE has done some legwork on this.

 

[Skully]

I wonder if this particular cinder block could be matched to ones in the yards of any nearby houses. Sure hope LE has done some legwork on this.

We should move this to the cinderblock thread.....

I was thinking the same thing, and also is there a place that makes them near by? Was there maybe something that was being built or construction in or around the MH? Or could they match up a the rest of the block to another one if they found it, like with duct tape tears?

 

[chesterp]

I wonder if this particular cinder block could be matched to ones in the yards of any nearby houses. Sure hope LE has done some legwork on this.

A field we were searching next to the BUS STOP....the grass was high and I tripped over a cinder block....I was not able to see the block until I tripped. Across the canal were sporadic cinder blocks here and there. When RC said he did not recognize? the block..... from what I saw in his yard it is quite possible the stack of cinder blocks someone said was stacked elsewhere...I totally believe that. These blocks were everywhere....one here one there etc.....

 

[Sissy1355]

Hi all. I have never posted in this thread before, but I did have an experience the night that the fight happened. I shared it with a few friends, but didn't post it for fear it would sound crazy. Maybe all of you can provide me with a little insight.

That night around the time this all was happening (mind you I didn't know about this until I got on the comp the next around noon) I got a terrible, horrible feeling. Started shaking and my heart was beating fast. (I have got these before mostly about my own family but I did have the same feeling right b4 Caylee was found and right after Melissa was first interviewed in the Sandra case) Anyway, it was so bad I went and checked on all the kids, mom, sis, even the dog just to make sure all was ok. Went and got back in bed thinking I was just over reacting. I was still feeling shaky and uneasy so I did what I usually do in those situations, I prayed. I was asking the Lord to take these feelings away from me and as clear as if someone was talking in my ear I heard "Hank". To be honest, I didn't know wth it was about, just filed it away in the back of my mind.

When I logged in the next morning I was of course suprised and shocked to hear of the arrest, but no bad feelings UNTIL I read what Misty had said about them repeatedly calling the house. As soon as I read that it was like deja vu. The fast heartbeat returned, shaking, hairs stood up on the back of my neck and I heard that voice again "Hank".

I know this probably sounds crazy, especially since I haven't ever really thought the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh, except maybe cousin Joe, but I have been praying non-stop since this happened asking the Lord to take these feelings away, but unlike last night it is still there. I keep having thoughts along the lines of Misty knows something and "Hank" wants her to keep her mouth shut and even though I have asked the Lord to take them away if they weren't true or right, they still remain.

Sorry about the rambling and hope this makes sense. I just wanted to pass this along to some of my sleuther friends to get their reaction in the hopes that I'm not COMPLETELY off my rocker.

 

[elle1919]

I want to bump this dream up. I was thinking about the cinder block today and decided to google manufacturing cinder blocks. I found that all cinder blocks are not the same. The ingredients in the mixture depending on what kind of block they are making. They come in different colors, weights and ingredients. Ron said he never saw that block before. I kept wondering how would he know? Well if the block wasn't made like the ones under the MH or had a different quality to it, that could be the reason. Some manufactures put impressions or designs on them. I thought that it was only part of a whole block that I saw in a video of someone handling the block early on (FBI OR LE). If that is the case, maybe the rest of that block is somewhere else. Or maybe the block could be matched up to several of the manufactores in FL. Find out where they shipped from, or where it came from. I would think that LE or FBI labs would be doing that. Just something else to sleuth.

You would think that LE and the FBI are doing a lot of stuff wouldn't you? Problem is in my heart I don't think they are.....

 

[elle1919]

A field we were searching next to the BUS STOP....the grass was high and I tripped over a cinder block....I was not able to see the block until I tripped. Across the canal were sporadic cinder blocks here and there. When RC said he did not recognize? the block..... from what I saw in his yard it is quite possible the stack of cinder blocks someone said was stacked elsewhere...I totally believe that. These blocks were everywhere....one here one there etc.....

wow....thank you for that info. I have been stuck on the cinder block since the start of this case. Not for any other reason except I think the cinder block could very well be the key to a key........if you know what I mean......in this case.(And I don't mean Misty is the key....) lol

 

[Sissy1355]

You would think that LE and the FBI are doing a lot of stuff wouldn't you? Problem is in my heart I don't think they are.....

I get the same feeling elle1919. I do remember seeing pics of the ramp early on with what looked to be part of a cinder block laying on it. I HOPE that was not the same one used to "brick" the door.

Does anyone have a link to the cinder block thread? I wanted to look into it more, but I'm having trouble finding it.

 

[Skully]

I get the same feeling elle1919. I do remember seeing pics of the ramp early on with what looked to be part of a cinder block laying on it. I HOPE that was not the same one used to "brick" the door.

Does anyone have a link to the cinder block thread? I wanted to look into it more, but I'm having trouble finding it.

Okay, I bumped the thread so you can go though it...... it is call how did the side door get open/cinder block revisited (something like that)

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I am not gifted in anyway.
I don't know why, but something inside of me does not want to dream with Haleigh and maybe not knowing is what caused this crazy night terror last week. I had a darn night terror..it was just like a lot of flashes of images and such. First flash of light and Tuesday is what was in my head, then another flash, Haleigh is dead, she was in an outfit that was like a school uniform, but not a uniform. Backpack, Maybe it had to do with school? I would have a flash and then more would follow, small leaves from large healthy trees, a cave/cement enclosure, upright position, enchanted forest, dry, dark,they told her she was ugly, lots of pebbles, cracks, quick, lights out, did not know it, it happen so fast. My head was spinning, it was like I was awake and asleep at the same time. I kept trying to wake up and I couldn't for the longest and when I did I just started crying, I was soaking wet due to perspiration. It was the strangest scariest night terrors I have had for a long time. Have no clue what it means, but I pray I don't have another one.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Someone mentioned sand and black "flags", IIRC. If you go to google maps, enter this address and take a look around in street view. There is a public parking area which has black and sand I found interesting.

520 SOUTH DAYTONA AVE, FLAGLER BEACH FL 32136

 

[Oldsoul2]

Quick question and comment.....I have not been on the dreams and visions forum before...is this one only for Haleigh or did members post here for all the other cases as well?

All the comments here on cinder blocks, eerily reminds me of the Buchanan case where they found the body covered by cement.....When I read the post about the near water, I got a strong feeling that it is the correct location...the house I keep seeing is brown wood, lots of trees around but you can't hear the water from the location. The man I see is stout, short and extremely sharp, I don't feel he has ever been a convicted pedophile, not on the radar which is why he has been able to steer LE away...they have not visited him, they don't even know who he is. MC, as far as I have already posted, is not involved but she has already thought about the possibility that it could be him. This sounds awful but I think she is enjoying the attention Ron gives her since Haleigh went missing and in some way does not want her to be found. Misty has not reported this possibility to LE. This man who took her is alone but there was a woman there at some point in the beggining although she did not participate in what he was doing to her. This man has seen the news and chuckles that he can do what he wants...he is very, very savvy so the comment about him being in the military or something that was posted like that is very possible. He "loved" sickly I might add...Haleigh....he never took her outside anywhere during the duration that he had her...He is very hard to catch, I feel he is very concealed for some reason, I don't know why. Haleigh will be found....and because I feel he buried her close to this house, he will try to flee but won't in time...without the location of the body, there will be no chance to catch him.

Btw, I don't think Misty was home when Haleigh was taken

 

[Flossie JMO]

Oldsoul there is an area for Sandra Cantu here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=324&order=desc

I don't know if they have a dreams and visions topic.

 

[chesterp]

Quick question and comment.....I have not been on the dreams and visions forum before...is this one only for Haleigh or did members post here for all the other cases as well?

All the comments here on cinder blocks, eerily reminds me of the Buchanan case where they found the body covered by cement.....When I read the post about the near water, I got a strong feeling that it is the correct location...the house I keep seeing is brown wood, lots of trees around but you can't hear the water from the location. The man I see is stout, short and extremely sharp, I don't feel he has ever been a convicted pedophile, not on the radar which is why he has been able to steer LE away...they have not visited him, they don't even know who he is. MC, as far as I have already posted, is not involved but she has already thought about the possibility that it could be him. This sounds awful but I think she is enjoying the attention Ron gives her since Haleigh went missing and in some way does not want her to be found. Misty has not reported this possibility to LE. This man who took her is alone but there was a woman there at some point in the beggining although she did not participate in what he was doing to her. This man has seen the news and chuckles that he can do what he wants...he is very, very savvy so the comment about him being in the military or something that was posted like that is very possible. He "loved" sickly I might add...Haleigh....he never took her outside anywhere during the duration that he had her...He is very hard to catch, I feel he is very concealed for some reason, I don't know why. Haleigh will be found....and because I feel he buried her close to this house, he will try to flee but won't in time...without the location of the body, there will be no chance to catch him.

Btw, I don't think Misty was home when Haleigh was taken

Between you seeing the legs and me with the upper body....We need to go to Satsuma area together and knock on every door....

Alot thought the dreams do seem to be like the Neveah case..... but for me when I was told HOME/CLOSE/TREE and other things and saw the drawing Bern did.....I know my dreams are about Haleigh. I believe strongly Bern's were about Haleigh as well....in her drawing "Haylee" is in a canal type watery grave, under a cypress tree....with a boat ramp...and a building in the background.

I strongly feel a military connection....
I saw her scooped off of the mattress on the floor....
I did not feel, sense, or see MC at all....so I strongly feel she was passed out or not there. Maybe she was purposely lured out of the house to party....to give the person the opportunity to take Haleigh.

When I meditate on Haleigh...I ask for only things about her so I do not confuse issues.

Last year I had a dream of Jesse Davis, to my surprise a few weeks ago, my dream was validated. Some of the things I was told about Haleigh was validated by KP when I was with her....

If Bern's drawing is correct, she will be found accidently by fishermen? under a cypress tree and one of the men will say something to the fact that their grandfather was murdered. This drawing and my dreams had such an impact on me a few days after Haleigh was taken I went to LE and gave them a copy of the drawing with Bern's permission.

I also went up there and search on my own many, many times.....looking in canals, canals, canals....and so on.

 

[elle1919]

Quick question and comment.....I have not been on the dreams and visions forum before...is this one only for Haleigh or did members post here for all the other cases as well?

All the comments here on cinder blocks, eerily reminds me of the Buchanan case where they found the body covered by cement.....When I read the post about the near water, I got a strong feeling that it is the correct location...the house I keep seeing is brown wood, lots of trees around but you can't hear the water from the location. The man I see is stout, short and extremely sharp, I don't feel he has ever been a convicted pedophile, not on the radar which is why he has been able to steer LE away...they have not visited him, they don't even know who he is. MC, as far as I have already posted, is not involved but she has already thought about the possibility that it could be him. This sounds awful but I think she is enjoying the attention Ron gives her since Haleigh went missing and in some way does not want her to be found. Misty has not reported this possibility to LE. This man who took her is alone but there was a woman there at some point in the beggining although she did not participate in what he was doing to her. This man has seen the news and chuckles that he can do what he wants...he is very, very savvy so the comment about him being in the military or something that was posted like that is very possible. He "loved" sickly I might add...Haleigh....he never took her outside anywhere during the duration that he had her...He is very hard to catch, I feel he is very concealed for some reason, I don't know why. Haleigh will be found....and because I feel he buried her close to this house, he will try to flee but won't in time...without the location of the body, there will be no chance to catch him.

Btw, I don't think Misty was home when Haleigh was taken

wow....thank you that was an excellent post.