Dreams/Visions?

[Skully]

Maybe a strong smell of glue or an industrial chemical = drugs and this implies that someone was doing drugs around Haleigh and perhaps she was given some to make her sleep.

Are there any drugs like that, that would smell real strong like epoxy?

 

[mysticrose]

Are there any drugs like that, that would smell real strong like epoxy?

Bern to my knowledge no but Im not into drugs. Here is an article about crystal meth. Maybe it can help:

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Meth labs emit noxious and extremely strong odors that are hard to cover up.
A meth lab can have a strong uncommonly sweet smell; not like a perfume, but something more like a lightly scented cleaning chemical. There is a point int he process where it may smell like a gas leak or rotten eggs. Some of the odors related to a meth lab have been described as smelling like:

■Lighter fluid
■Ether
■Ammonia
■Auto parts cleaner
■Rotten eggs
Usually living next to or near by a meth lab you would probably smell these things repeatedly. Sometimes meth cooks will cover the windows with tin foil to keep the scent from escaping and others from seeing in. Spotting a meth lab can be tough, but the smell is generally a tell-tale sign.

The ingredients used in making meth are extremely toxic and flammable. If you are concerned about the possibility that there may be a meth lab near you; it’s no joke – Call the fire department or police and have them investigate

http://somechicksblog.com/make-meth/meth-smell-is-something-not-easily-hidden

 

[elle1919]

Bern I read an interview today here : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501724,00.html

Greta V...about the dumpster search, Greta asked what was in the dumpster and the journalist said this : VAN SUSTEREN: Was the material in the dumpster put there recently? Could the material had been next to a dead body and then placed in the dumpster and then hit by the three cadaver dogs?

COURSEY: Police haven't said when the last time the dumpsters was dumped, so we do not know how long the trash has been there.

VAN SUSTEREN: But is the trash exclusively construction trash, or are their clothes or personal trash in there?

COURSEY: No. It's strictly construction. There is a lot of concrete block in there, sidings of mobile homes, a couple pieces of lawn furniture, but that was about it.

VAN SUSTEREN: Who owns the dumpster?

COURSEY: My guess is the adjacent trailer park right on the other side of this fence. It is owned and operated by them. They are the ones who take care of all of that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is there anyone in that mobile home area that you know has any relationship whatsoever with Haleigh Cummings family?

COURSEY: Like I said, right where we are--I can see Ronald Cumming's house from where I am right now. Where Haleigh lived is just about a quarter of mile down the road. So they walked past this every single day. There are a lot of relatives here in this neighborhood. ~ end

It got me thinking about a dream you had about Haleigh and the cinder block. I wish we could even get that point figured out.

 

[Skully]

You know ever since that dream of Haleigh saying to me "I can't believe they didn't figure out the cinder block" to me, it bothers me. I keep thinking the brick was brought BACK to the trailer. Or it is something so simple, like the brick was part of the household, you know, like they used it to hold up a table or used it to keep something inside in place. We used to use them for shelves; put a cinder block down on either side of an area and then place wood over it, makes a cheap table or place to put stuff on. It is now too late to see if anything from the dumpster had the same materials on the brick now.

Thanks Elle

 

[Skully]

Mystic,

I am thinking Auto Parts cleaner...... my husband uses something to clean parts in the garage and it stinks like epoxy.

 

[elle1919]

You know ever since that dream of Haleigh saying to me "I can't believe they didn't figure out the cinder block" to me, it bothers me. I keep thinking the brick was brought BACK to the trailer. Or it is something so simple, like the brick was part of the household, you know, like they used it to hold up a table or used it to keep something inside in place. We used to use them for shelves; put a cinder block down on either side of an area and then place wood over it, makes a cheap table or place to put stuff on. It is now too late to see if anything from the dumpster had the same materials on the brick now.

Thanks Elle

Well Law Enforcement did take the brick for testing, So maybe they found something, seems like not too far of a stretch to hope that there was epithelial cells present, cinder blocks are scratchy.

 

[kamky]

Are there any drugs like that, that would smell real strong like epoxy?

"Glue sniffing is the inhalation of the fumes from organic solvents of the type found in paints, lighter fuel and glue, for their hallucinatory effects..."

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=63212

 

[LFlorida]

I was shredding old cc receipts and old bank statements, things that I don't want account numbers on and in the trash. I was printing out IRS instructions for a non profit org. I tried doing the same things again to see if it was the printer ink or the shredder, but to no avail. I couldn't get the smell out of my nose, for hours. It wasn't as strong but it lingered you know? It smelled like epoxy glue, the kind they use to set your caps at the dentist. Very strange.

Just before Somer Thompson went missing I had that plaque fall off the wall from Jacksonville, and we were all talking about twins. Well she was from the Jacksonville area and she was a twin, but it had nothing to do with Haleigh.

So some times I just put it out there cause it may be for someone else....

Right up front - I'm not trying to be smart-aleck'y or dismissive, okay?

Any chance it was the shredder's motor overheating? I only mention this because I can smell overheated wiring from a mile away. OK, that's an exaggeration, but I really do smell it before anybody else around seems to. When I put more sheets in my shredder than it is designed to handle, it does start to overheat - but that's just my shredder, I admit.

Otherwise, my best guess - which would be nothing but a complete guess - is crack. [I don't think I've ever smelled crack, but in my imagination it would smell kinda like what you're describing. Not an organic smell, but a chemical kind of smell. Does that make any sense?]

 

[mysticrose]

Mystic,

I am thinking Auto Parts cleaner...... my husband uses something to clean parts in the garage and it stinks like epoxy.

Hi Bern, yes I am around alot of epoxy my husband builds beautiful boats and it stinks..lol

This may have no bearing just a memory I had after I put that article up, but one day when I was staining my deck in a little trailer park I used to live in I came around the corner and the neighbors where out and his dad said " What are you doing over there,cooking meth ?" lol

I found it an odd statement from the little old man as he did not look like the type that would or should know....lol

 

[Skully]

Right up front - I'm not trying to be smart-aleck'y or dismissive, okay?

Any chance it was the shredder's motor overheating? I only mention this because I can smell overheated wiring from a mile away. OK, that's an exaggeration, but I really do smell it before anybody else around seems to. When I put more sheets in my shredder than it is designed to handle, it does start to overheat - but that's just my shredder, I admit.

Otherwise, my best guess - which would be nothing but a complete guess - is crack. [I don't think I've ever smelled crack, but in my imagination it would smell kinda like what you're describing. Not an organic smell, but a chemical kind of smell. Does that make any sense?]

My husband was there in the room with me and he got down and smelled the shredder and the printer, and the hard drive on the computer, he got nothing. It could be just my nose, I do smell better than him, it was just so strong and it stayed with me. I thought well with all the other stuff that goes on here in this house, I wanted to mention it.

 

[Beatrice]

As you know I have had lots of dreams of Haleigh and some paranormal activity that I believe had to do with her as well. Today I had a really strange thing happen and I think I am losing my mind. I am not kidding..... I was sitting on the floor shredding some paperwork and also printing off some forms. My shredder is small and it sits beside a file box with all of Haleigh's files I keep. As I am shredding I start to smell glue. It is pungent, strong and fills my nose and lungs. It was like airplane glue or industrial glue. My husband is in the room with me and I start saying stuff like, "OMG, that is awful, what is that?" and he doesn't smell it. I had to leave the room. This went on for sometime. He went out and I closed the door to the room and went outside. When he came back I asked him to check the room for fumes. Nothing. Either I have a brain tumor, I am losing my mind or this is a paranormal thing again. If anyone has experienced this in one way or the other, can you let me know. What would glue or fumes have to do with anything?

TIA

This is a real psychic phenomenom....Sporactically smelling odd scents that would be associated with a deceased love one. i.e. Rose scent in an unexpected place.

With all we now know of chloroform/Caylee....Misty or another could have used "glue" to subdue Haleigh.

 

[chesterp]

My husband was there in the room with me and he got down and smelled the shredder and the printer, and the hard drive on the computer, he got nothing. It could be just my nose, I do smell better than him, it was just so strong and it stayed with me. I thought well with all the other stuff that goes on here in this house, I wanted to mention it.

Bern, do not ever second guess your intuitive thoughts on this case or any other. First impressions are usually the right thing....

 

[elle1919]

Bern, do not ever second guess your intuitive thoughts on this case or any other. First impressions are usually the right thing....

Positively and I couldn't agree with you more.

 

[Toi]

As you know I have had lots of dreams of Haleigh and some paranormal activity that I believe had to do with her as well. Today I had a really strange thing happen and I think I am losing my mind. I am not kidding..... I was sitting on the floor shredding some paperwork and also printing off some forms. My shredder is small and it sits beside a file box with all of Haleigh's files I keep. As I am shredding I start to smell glue. It is pungent, strong and fills my nose and lungs. It was like airplane glue or industrial glue. My husband is in the room with me and I start saying stuff like, "OMG, that is awful, what is that?" and he doesn't smell it. I had to leave the room. This went on for sometime. He went out and I closed the door to the room and went outside. When he came back I asked him to check the room for fumes. Nothing. Either I have a brain tumor, I am losing my mind or this is a paranormal thing again. If anyone has experienced this in one way or the other, can you let me know. What would glue or fumes have to do with anything?


I have always had this ability as long as I can remember. It started when I was about 8 yrs old. My great-grandmother died and my mother had called me to come home from my friends house. The smell right before she called me on the phone was indescribable. It had a tingle/vibration with it. I felt it in the cartilage/bone in my nose. As I've gotten older I can sense it within 2 weeks of someone close to me or close to the ones that are close to me are going to pass away. I never know who it will be or how. Only thing with my smell is that the closer the person is to me the stronger the smell and sensation in my nose. Its like a foreign rose with some off colored smells mixed with it. Only once I did smell rotting meat. The last time someone in my life passed away. It was horrible I thought that I was going to vomit on the spot. No one else around me could smell it. I don't really tell people this about myself because they look at me like I'm crazy when I say " I smell dead people." Sry tho Bern I have never smelt glue like your are describing but this is my experience with "smelling". My smells don't last for hours either. Maybe a few seconds to a minute that's it. I would like to hear from anyone else that has had experiences with this.

 

[chesterp]

As you know I have had lots of dreams of Haleigh and some paranormal activity that I believe had to do with her as well. Today I had a really strange thing happen and I think I am losing my mind. I am not kidding..... I was sitting on the floor shredding some paperwork and also printing off some forms. My shredder is small and it sits beside a file box with all of Haleigh's files I keep. As I am shredding I start to smell glue. It is pungent, strong and fills my nose and lungs. It was like airplane glue or industrial glue. My husband is in the room with me and I start saying stuff like, "OMG, that is awful, what is that?" and he doesn't smell it. I had to leave the room. This went on for sometime. He went out and I closed the door to the room and went outside. When he came back I asked him to check the room for fumes. Nothing. Either I have a brain tumor, I am losing my mind or this is a paranormal thing again. If anyone has experienced this in one way or the other, can you let me know. What would glue or fumes have to do with anything?


I have always had this ability as long as I can remember. It started when I was about 8 yrs old. My great-grandmother died and my mother had called me to come home from my friends house. The smell right before she called me on the phone was indescribable. It had a tingle/vibration with it. I felt it in the cartilage/bone in my nose. As I've gotten older I can sense it within 2 weeks of someone close to me or close to the ones that are close to me are going to pass away. I never know who it will be or how. Only thing with my smell is that the closer the person is to me the stronger the smell and sensation in my nose. Its like a foreign rose with some off colored smells mixed with it. Only once I did smell rotting meat. The last time someone in my life passed away. It was horrible I thought that I was going to vomit on the spot. No one else around me could smell it. I don't really tell people this about myself because they look at me like I'm crazy when I say " I smell dead people." Sry tho Bern I have never smelt glue like your are describing but this is my experience with "smelling". My smells don't last for hours either. Maybe a few seconds to a minute that's it. I would like to hear from anyone else that has had experiences with this.

The glue smell from Bern fits in with my dream.....it is like a piece of the puzzle to me. I normally have not smelled anything awake, but in my dreams I have had smells that reminded me of places, things, and people from the past.

Your experience with the "I smell dead people"....Other people see things and hear thing while meditating, ME, and others in their dreams at night who are able to draw sketches to a tee... and some do all of that and more.

Everyone's experiences are different.... My dreams are beginning to be clear and concise...right to the point. Haleigh is going to be found soon. I am getting to the point that I do not freak out when I get a message...I am getting able to ask questions and receive answers....it is amazing.

My dreams of children are getting very strong...I will be spending my time in the future finding missing and exploited children. I will never share my experiences with a family.....I will be finding these children and then go to LE with the info.

Last week while I was meditating....it was as if I was flying over streets I recognised....I saw cars being driven...people walking on the sidewalks...it was in the here and now. I crossed a waterway, small bridge....a landmark on the left of the street and then I was planted on the right side of the street....I drew a line in the sandy dirt as a marker and I was told this is where to call the cadaver dogs in....

A few minutes later I went to my computer and the homepage I opened had a story of an person who has been missing for many, many years. I contacted a friend of mine who has access to a cadaver dog and she told me when I have the exact spot....she will bring the dog in they are not local. Over the years in the area where I live, there are many missing throughout the county, and my heart knows I am going to find someone......which will bring closure to a family.

I immediately discussed this with Bern....and she did not pick up anything on what I told her. I told another friend of mine and even before I could get the words out....she was telling me my dream. I first began getting these vague dreams of Caylee....then Haleigh, which makes perfect sense to me, and I received something out of the blue about Somer. I asked my Guides to please give me info on one child at a time so I do not confuse them....that is how I know Haleigh is going to be found soon....and of course she finally told me. Caylee spoke to me early on....Haleigh a couple of weeks ago. With Haleigh I was told certain things from day one.....they will be coming to light very soon. I was given the name of the person who is going to find her, if LE does not take my dream serious. I have told them how to connect the dots...I do not know if they already have and are waiting to pounce....but they have a handle on this case.

No one will ever make me second guess the info I receive....I have told my Guides please do not give me frivolous info.....I am not doing this for notoriety...I will never make a penny off the families I am supposed to help. I do not have a clue as to why this is happening, but I am grateful, I will never abuse this gift that I am developing.

When I Googled Earth the area I am supposed to find.....I have spent hours and when I get to far away from the spot my computer will freeze up. I hope in the near future I drive to this spot, my friend comes with the dog...and BINGO.....closure for a family.

Sorry this is so long I could go on and on and on.....

 

[lil momma]

I think you all have a very special gift.

Bern: maybe mineral spirits or maybe a degreaser?

 

[Skully]

Around 3 yrs ago, I had a dream that my dad (deceased) came to me in a dream and he brought a young girl (20's) with him. They were standing in the woods in front of a wooden cabin. He had his arm around her and she was dead like him. She had long brown hair, a bit of a wave, not much. She was pretty, thin in the face, and looked quite upset to be dead. In the dream I get her story. I never hear it with my ears, more of it being passed to me without words. She tells me she was taken by two men and held in this cabin. She was mortified at being used for 3 days. It was devastating to her, more than when she got scoliosis. (I have it too, so I know what it feels like to know your path). She told me she was luckier than the first girl, she had been taken down to a ravine, killed and placed in the back of a blue truck bed and set on fire to get rid of her body. I see the place in my dream, the cabin, the woods, the ravine, the truck and the other body burned. So I have talked to others about this dream and even sent a drawing to another poster because we thought maybe it was Jenifer Kesse and Tracy O. But I told them this place is not in FL. The terrain is wrong.

I bought a book last month, not an author I have ever read before, Anne Rule. The last chapter of her book is about a young girl, who like me had Scoliosis and had the same operations and rod put in and she has been missing since 1987. Her name is Julie Miner Weflen. I saw her picture and about fell over, it's the same girl with my dad in the dream. There is suspect that another crime of a young girl is related to this one in the book. I don't have details on her case. So I emailed Anne Rule and sent her the drawing of the cabin. Julie used to go camping with her husband. He is not a suspect, he was out of state I believe. She disappeared from a job site.

I searched the forum here and there was a thread going about her some years ago. I didn't post this dream there as there was no thread for dreams for her. But I just wanted to share how this works with me. It took 3 years to prove to me, I have a gift. I have stopped using it since Haleigh. I have doubted as to why I get anything if I can't find her or any one else....

Sorry so long of a post.

I posted a reference to this thread on her site. I also just read a report that they suspect 2 people over powered her.... I swear to God I have never read this or anything about this case, how weird is that?

 

[mysticrose]

The last two nights I have head dreams about Haleigh but haven't been able to recall them...Sometimes I can if I get enough quiet time in the day if I do I will come post them. I do know the sense I got from them was there was going to movement soon on this case and something about Ron, I do remember that much about them right now.

ETA: Usally when I dream it is in future time and usally within 1 month and usally no longer then 3 months. We can only hope for some resolution soon...

 

[Beatrice]

...Don't forget...The unnamed "A/C man"...Freon? In February?

 

[Beatrice]

Smoking crack (for instance) smells like burning rubber.
Reason the cinder block was keeping the back door open?...
To be able to sit & smoke & still be in the house.
Way too much emphasis around laundry room/back door.