Drew Peterson's Trial *FOURTH WEEK*

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  • #121
yep, everytime, they get 10 minutes into it and a sidebar happens and they excuse the witness and the jury.

never seen anything like this before.


BBM: Has anyone contacted Guinness Book of World Records yet ? :waitasec:

:rocker: Niner is keeping track of the # of sidebars ... the # of times the jury is in and out ... and other stats ...

So maybe Niner can submit the #s to Guinness ... LOL !

;)
 
  • #122
The way this trial is going.....If the "hit man" testimony ever gets in I'll have
A celebration at my house.
:please:
 
  • #123
I have been away from the house for awhile. Coming back to read about this morning is kind of frustrating, but also somewhat positive. I don't know what to think about this trial anymore.
 
  • #124
Hello all, I see it is SSDD in Judge Burmila's courtroom. Not that I expected anything different...
 
  • #125
Thanks to the live updates from CA Lady and everyone else. I think I am glad I can't watch this trial live. I would be in need of a new flat screen about now. I can't figure out if the Prosecution is truly as inept as they appear to be, or if the Judge is as biased as he appears to be. Gawd.
 
  • #126
BCBM, IIRC this is the first I have seen testimony that there is evidence there's been water in the blood. Hopefully there will be some further explanation of such.




Jean K on IS tried to explain the "water in the blood" and left me more confused than before she spoke. It appears, and I use that work lightly, that blood and water had been in the tub. Please don't take that as gospel but thats what I think she was trying to say.......
 
  • #127
I don't even get a gut feeling of how this doctor is doing on the stand because it seems she is overshadowed by all of the court room drama...
 
  • #128
  • #129
Praying so hard for JUSTICE for Kathleen

I've never seen a trial like this in my life...


The Jury is wearing shades of Green

Defense attorney Greenberg
 
  • #130
This judge needs a clock ... ya think this will do ? :waitasec:





:floorlaugh:
 
  • #131
11:55 a.m. More starts and stops for trial

The defense objected to State’s Attorney James Glasgow asking medical examiner Mary Case if Dr. Bryan Mitchell, who performed the original autopsy on Kathleen Savio in 2004, offered any manner of death.

Judge Edward Burmila ordered the jury out, and the defense argued that Mitchell was not authorized to determine anything more than cause of death.

Glasgow argued that Mitchell, who noted that Savio’s head wound may have been the result of a fall, did not say whether her death was accidental or otherwise. He wanted Case to testify that Mitchell's "unfortunate" and "half-baked" assumption would not meet the standard needed for manner of death.

Burmila said Case could say whether Mitchell listed a manner of death, but prosecutors could not ask whether she had an opinion about what Mitchell thought about how Savio died.

The jury was brought back in, and Glasgow complied with the judge's order, but the defense objected again within seconds and the jury was led out again.

The defense argued it's improper to lead the jury to believe Mitchell erred in not listing a manner of death, since at that time such determinations were made by a coroner's jury.

The trial is on a lunch break until 1:15 p.m.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ey-witnesses-on-deck-20120821,0,4020802.story
 
  • #132
Praying so hard for JUSTICE for Kathleen

I've never seen a trial like this in my life...


The Jury is wearing shades of Green

Defense attorney Greenberg

I am really bothered by this color coordinated nonsense worn by the jury.

The jury is not supposed to be ' united.' Not at all. They are supposed to be a random group of varied individuals, who listen objectively to the same evidence and come to a reasoned decision. They are not allowed to talk about the evidence or the trial before the deliberations begin. They are not a 'team.'

Somebody on that jury panel needs to be directing this coordinating effort. And that bugs me. Because when deliberations begin, there will be a 'unified' group effort and that is not what a jury is supposed to be. JMO
 
  • #133
Judge White said on IS a little bit ago that the $25k would be too high, more like a professional hitman would charge. Uh, wouldn't a cop want the 'top of the line' to make sure it wouldn't come back on him?
 
  • #134
I dont know whether to laugh or to cry. :floorlaugh::please:


Judge White said on IS a little bit ago that the $25k would be too high, more like a professional hitman would charge. Uh, wouldn't a cop want the 'top of the line' to make sure it wouldn't come back on him?
 
  • #135
trial back in session, the jury is coming back in, as is pathologist Mary Case.

Case, again recalling Mitchell report, says Savio's body was free of drugs.

Mitchell determined Savio's cause of death to be 'drowning', After inquest, coroner determined manner to be 'accidental'.

Case now detailing 2007 autopsy report from Dr. Blum.

Case: Blum took samples of bruising from Savio's hip.

Case now talking about third autopsy done by Dr. Michael Baden.

Case says her opinion on age of contusions on front of hip bones coincided with Dr. Blum's.

Case: When a bruise is first made, it's either purple or blue. Microscopic review of sample showed it was blue -- a fresh injury.
 
  • #136
Case: These are significant bruises #DrewPeterson

Case: No evidence of injury to Savio's back or neck.

Case: Savio had "perfectly normal" heart. Her opinion coincides with Dr. Blum's, she says.
 
  • #137
In Session Judge Burmila has taken the bench. Judge: “Did you locate that testimony you were looking for?” Attorney Greenberg concedes that the defense was not able to locate exactly what it was looking for, but quotes from testimony from the hearsay hearing. He also quotes from a statute which he claims say it’s the duty of the jury to determine a manner of death. “Dr. Mitchell is not here to answer any of this . . . this witness here today is not here to critique the work of Dr. Mitchell. She’s here to testify that the head trauma, in her opinion, wouldn’t have caused Ms. Savio to pass out; that’s her opinion . . . “ Judge Burmila interrupts, questions attorney Greenberg. Glasgow responds, disputes the defense contention that the coroner is barred from suggesting a manner of death. Judge: “Well, there’s nothing I’m aware of that mandates that a coroner’s pathologist includes a manner of death; there’s nothing that precludes him from offering a manner of death . . . the objection is overruled. Be careful of where you go with your next witness, Mr. State’s Attorney.”
 
  • #138
In Session The witness and the jurors are now back in the courtroom. Prosecutor Glasgow resumes his direct examination of neuropathologist Dr. Mary Case. “With regards to Dr. Mitchell’s protocols, was toxicology done?” “Yes . . . it was a negative . . . it did not indicate the presence of any drugs or medications at all.” She also reviewed the materials from Dr. Larry Blum’s 2007 autopsy. She says that Dr. Blum’s X-rays showed no abnormalities or broken bones, and that his incisions did not show “anything on the back . . . he farther explored the area of the soft tissue in the front part of your hip bone . . . there was deep bruising, and he further exposed and documented that, and took sections.”
 
  • #139
In Session The sidebar ends. “Did you have an opportunity to review an autopsy from 1007 performed by Dr. Michael Baden?” “I did . .. he looked at all the material previously looked at in the two previous autopsies. He removed the spinal cord, and found some bruising or contusion in the muscles around the diaphragm. He photographed that, and then took microscopic sections, so that could be looked at . . . [the diaphragm] is inside, under the rib cage . . . the diaphragm is like a bellows; when you breathe in, it actually pulls air in. That’s a very important muscle to make you breathe . . . it’s protected by the ribs; it’s under the rib cage. And it’s behind the abdominal wall.” “Did you have an opportunity to personally review all the slides assembled from the various autopsies?” “I did.” “Did you examine one of Dr. Blum’s slides, referring to the left lower quadrant?” “I did . . . sections were made from that tissue, and a slide was made . . . then we can look at it under the microscope, which magnifies it.” Objection/Sustained.
 
  • #140
In Session “Did you review Dr. Blum’s findings as to his examination of the slides?” “I did. My findings were similar; there were red blood cells present, which indicated this was an area of contusion . . . there were no inflammatory cells, which is the body’s reaction to any kind of injury . . none of those were present. So it was a very fresh injury.” “Was a photograph taken at the autopsy of this injury?” “Yes, it was.” The witness identifies a photograph of this lower left quadrant injury. “You can see three blue areas of contusion . . . it looks blue to me; that indicates that it’s fresh . . . it’s a very fresh injury.”
 
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