Drew Peterson's Trial *FOURTH WEEK*

[WindyCityGirl]

In Session On August 30, 2007, he received a phone call from Stacy Peterson, and met her at Starbucks in Bolingbrook the next day (“between 8:30 and 9:00 in the morning&#8221. “What did you observe when you arrived?” “I observed her sitting by herself in the patio, as I approached… Stacy appeared to be…” Objection/Overruled. “Stacy appeared to be nervous, tentative. She was sitting alone. I approached and greeted her… I did all of my counseling out in public, usually at a coffee shop . . . I did that because I never wanted to have any question of impropriety on my part.” “How public was the area where you met?” “It’s a very public area, very highly trafficked…very busy.” “How long did you talk to her?” “Probably about two hours.”

 

[borndem]

I agree if that's the case.

Did DP mouth anything to Ruby first that the deputy or anyone else didn't see???

We'll never know since there are no cameras in that room... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Tipstaff]

We're in a break. Presumption is prosecution is meeting with Schori to instruct what he can/cannot say.

The DT lawyers are repulsive - this is not a trial - it is the DT badgering the State and the judge is permitting them to continue.

To not permit a witness to answer what they heard - well why bother having any witnesses?

 

[katydid23]

Schori said SP "silently cried," indicated she had something to tell him.

Schori says SP told him that one night she and DP went to sleep at the same time. She later awoke and DP wasn't there.

Schori: “Yes, it was June 1, 2004.”

Schori says Stacy woke up in the middle of the night and tried to find #DrewPeterson on the weekend Savio died.

Schori said Stacy later found #DrewPeterson in the laundry room, dressed in black and putting women's clothes in washer. They were not hers...

 

[katydid23]

Schori: SP said DP later told her that police would want to interview her. DP told her what to say.

Schori: Conversation between SP and DP "took hours." Interview happened. SP later said she lied on DP's behalf.

 

[fifteen89]

In Session The jurors have entered the courtroom, and the State calls its first witness of the day: Neil Schori (questioned by prosecutor Glasgow). He goes over his educational background. “My first ministry was working for a hospice organization . . . I worked on the South Side of Chicago. I was transferred to St. Louis, where I worked for another year.” “In May of 2004, did you begin working with the Life Spring Community Church, in Plainfield?” “Yes, it was June 1, 2004.” “Did you have occasion to meet Drew and Stacy Peterson?” “Not at Life Spring . . . I met them at the end of 2005 or the beginning of 2006 at West Brook Church in Bolingbrook.” “Did you have a chance to minister to them?” “I did.” Objection/Overruled. He identifies the defendant in the courtroom, and then also identifies a photograph of Stacy Peterson..

Why bother objecting to THAT question????? Just practicing?

 

[katydid23]

[This is going to be a brutal cross examination coming up. I heard rumors that the DT is going to accuse this pastor of having innapropriate contact with some women in his congregation.. but later on during the defense portion of the case most likely]]

 

[katydid23]

State ends questioning Schori. Lopez begins cross.

Schori: "I did all of my counseling out in public, usually at a coffee shop.

Schori: "I did that because I never wanted to have any question of impropriety on my part.” #drewpeterson

 

[WindyCityGirl]

In Session At one time, Stacy became more upset. “She withdrew, and I recall her holding her leg up… she silently cried; she had tears streaming down her cheeks.” “Did she indicate she had something to tell you about the night Kathleen Savio died?” “She did… she told me that one night she and Drew went to bed at the same time, and they both went to sleep. She woke up in the middle of the night, and noticed that Drew was not in the bed with her… she looked around the house, hoping to find him; she did not find him in the house. She attempted to contact him by phone and was unsuccessful in doing that.” “What did she do after that?” “After that, it was some time later, in the early morning hours… she saw him standing near the washer and dryer, dressed in all black, carrying a bag. She said that he removed his clothing, and then took the contents of the bag and put all of that into the washing machine.” “Did he walk away at that point?” “He did. She walked to washing machine, and looked inside. And she saw women’s clothing that was not hers.” “Did she shortly thereafter have a conversation with Drew Peterson?” “She did. He told her that soon the police would be wanting to sit down to interview her, and he told her what to say to the police.” “How long did it take for him to tell her what to say?” “It took hours.” “Did she tell you what she said to the police?’ “She said that she lied on Drew’s behalf to the police.” As Stacy told him this story “she continued to cry. She was very scared.”

 

[WindyCityGirl]

In Session “Do you know what she was referring to when she told you this information?” Objection. The parties approach for a sidebar.

 

[katydid23]

On cross, Schori says he never counseled SP at the church.

Lopez: "Are you telling us that you engage in marriage counseling with people in public places? Schori: "Absolutely."

atty Lopez now asking Schori why he counsels congregants in Starbucks. "I think what I do is done very well," Schori says.

 

[WindyCityGirl]

In Session The sidebar ends. The direct examination of this witness has ended, and attorney Joe Lopez begins his cross. “You told the grand jury that you had heard rumors about what had happened to Miss Savio, remember that?” “I do.” “You had kind of an idea of what she was talking about?” “Just a very faint idea… I’d heard a little bit at the church.” “When she mentioned this, you were also thinking about things people had previous told you, trying to connect them?” “No, not really.” The witness says that the West Brook Church had about 1200 members. “You had an office at that church?” “I had a cubicle.” “You didn’t ask Stacy to meet you at that church?” “That is right.” “And you studied this ministry, for this counseling ministry?” “I did.” “Did any book suggest to you that you should use Starbucks instead of Dunkin’ Donuts for a counseling session?” “I don’t really understand.” “Are you telling us you do marriage counseling in public places?’ “Absolutely . . . I think what I do I do very well.” “While she was telling you this, was she carrying in her latte at the same time?” “She was crying.” “You’re telling us you decided to meet her in a public place?” “I always met in public.” “Is that what you learned in school?” “There are many ways to do counseling; there’s not just one way.” “You previously told the grand jury that she burst out into tears?” “I didn’t say she burst out in to tears…I don’t recall exactly what I said.”
55 seconds ago

 

[LambChop]

[/B]
I don't understand why they wait until they get into court to refresh their memories on this stuff.
The judge knew this was coming up, the state knew this was coming up. Why didn't they review all this last night so they would be ready?

And why is it this judge does not have those transcripts available to him so he can go right to them????? Judge Perry never seemed to have a problem doing that... jmo

 

[katydid23]

Schori says he didn't know what SP wanted to tell him when setting up the meeting at Starbucks.

atty Lopez begins cross attacking Schori for conducting counciling in public place, not the church.

Lopez: "Oh, so you thought it'd be better to embarrass people by having them cry in public?" Schori: "Those are your words."

Schori says he didn't take notes during SP meeting. "I never take notes."

opez: "During this conversation that you had with her, you never suggested to go to a shelter, is that correct?" Schori: "That's correct."

 

[WindyCityGirl]

more relaxed for the person needing an understanding ear.
Lopez's mocking it being Starbucks versus Dunkin Donuts is only making him out to look like an arse

In Session The sidebar ends. The direct examination of this witness has ended, and attorney Joe Lopez begins his cross. “You told the grand jury that you had heard rumors about what had happened to Miss Savio, remember that?” “I do.” “You had kind of an idea of what she was talking about?” “Just a very faint idea… I’d heard a little bit at the church.” “When she mentioned this, you were also thinking about things people had previous told you, trying to connect them?” “No, not really.” The witness says that the West Brook Church had about 1200 members. “You had an office at that church?” “I had a cubicle.” “You didn’t ask Stacy to meet you at that church?” “That is right.” “And you studied this ministry, for this counseling ministry?” “I did.” “Did any book suggest to you that you should use Starbucks instead of Dunkin’ Donuts for a counseling session?” “I don’t really understand.” “Are you telling us you do marriage counseling in public places?’ “Absolutely . . . I think what I do I do very well.” “While she was telling you this, was she carrying in her latte at the same time?” “She was crying.” “You’re telling us you decided to meet her in a public place?” “I always met in public.” “Is that what you learned in school?” “There are many ways to do counseling; there’s not just one way.” “You previously told the grand jury that she burst out into tears?” “I didn’t say she burst out in to tears…I don’t recall exactly what I said.”
55 seconds ago

 

[katydid23]

Upon questioning, Schori says he didn't follow-up with Stacy or confirm details with Drew Peterson after initial meeting.

[ oh yea, sure...he is going to 'confirm details' with Drew...GMAB]

 

[WindyCityGirl]

Even some therapists (licensed social workers, etc) meet with their clients at the park. It is soothing to be close to nature. There are even some that go to the gym and have therapy sessions side by side on a treadmill....seriously. There isn't anything weird about what this guy did.

 

[fifteen89]

In Session The sidebar ends. The direct examination of this witness has ended, and attorney Joe Lopez begins his cross. “You told the grand jury that you had heard rumors about what had happened to Miss Savio, remember that?” “I do.” “You had kind of an idea of what she was talking about?” “Just a very faint idea… I’d heard a little bit at the church.” “When she mentioned this, you were also thinking about things people had previous told you, trying to connect them?” “No, not really.” The witness says that the West Brook Church had about 1200 members. “You had an office at that church?” “I had a cubicle.” “You didn’t ask Stacy to meet you at that church?” “That is right.” “And you studied this ministry, for this counseling ministry?” “I did.” “Did any book suggest to you that you should use Starbucks instead of Dunkin’ Donuts for a counseling session?” “I don’t really understand.” “Are you telling us you do marriage counseling in public places?’ “Absolutely . . . I think what I do I do very well.” “While she was telling you this, was she carrying in her latte at the same time?” “She was crying.” “You’re telling us you decided to meet her in a public place?” “I always met in public.” “Is that what you learned in school?” “There are many ways to do counseling; there’s not just one way.” “You previously told the grand jury that she burst out into tears?” “I didn’t say she burst out in to tears…I don’t recall exactly what I said.”
55 seconds ago

BBM
Uh, didn't they just object to the witness answering that question????? And the direct exam ended after the sidebar???? Yeesh.

 

[WindyCityGirl]

In Session The sidebar ends. “Sir, when you went to this Starbucks, you didn’t know what she was going to tell you?” “That’s right.” “Why didn’t’ you meet at the church, in a private setting, to discuss private issues with people?” “I didn’t believe it had to be done the way you suggest . . . she was not embarrassed.” “How do you know that?” “I believe she was not embarrassed.” “You don’t even know if she was telling the truth?’ “I believe she was telling the truth.” “Did you keep a log of when you met her?” “No, I did not.” “Did you take any notes?” “I never take notes at counseling sessions.” “I’m not asking you about other people you’ve embarrassed, I’m asking you about this session. Did you take notes?’ “No.” “Drew wasn’t present?” “That’s right.” “You never suggested she go to a shelter?” “No.” “You didn’t call her the next day to see if she was OK?” “Correct.” “You didn’t talk to Drew about it?” “That’s correct.” “You didn’t tell anybody about it?” “That’s correct.” “In fact, you were sitting on a grand jury?” “That’s correct.” “Did you speak to somebody in August?” “No.” “September?” “No.” “You didn’t speak to anybody until October?” “That is correct.”

 

[katydid23]

Schori also says he didn't send any anonymous letters to authorities, news organizations with info SP gave him.

After meeting with Stacy, Schori didn't meet with her again.