Drew Peterson's Trial *THIRD WEEK*

[katydid23]

Autopsy report shows no drugs in her system, if I am reading the report correctly.

http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/savio, kathleen_report.pdf

But IIRC, the tox screen guy admitted there were a few drugs they did not check for, like Lipitor and Zoloft, I believe. Something about false positives, anyone remember?

 

[Shelby1]

Beth Karas InSession

The Drew Peterson jurors filed into court today wearing black or dark blue clothes. Yesterday's color was blue. What does this mean? They're out of court so much while attorneys argue motions that, perhaps, they've created their own game to play with us..

Lol, poor jury. I wonder what color they will wear Tuesday? We could start a betting pool.

 

[WindyCityGirl]

wash that could be likened to what Kathleen experience in the bath tub. The bits of reading that am doing on cervical vertigo is in alignment with what the doc says in that people are less likely to fall with it.
This is good that the prosecution is bringing this out right now taking away any possible curve balls or poison apples to munch on -- alternative viewpoints to be offered by the defense

It was the motion of the car being washed with the brushes going back and forth and I was sitting still in the car. Weirdest feeling ever, as you think you are actually moving and you are not.

 

[Patty G]

Maybe the jurors are making a statement of "unity" or perhaps following suit (no pun intended ... well maybe a little) to Joe Lopez and his wife's matching colors. I vote for "unity".

 

[~n/t~]

Why is the defense so worried about this doctor? It seems like it would help their case if the jury thinks she had this condition, imo.

I think this may answer your question. It did for me. In other words, he won't be able to say that this condition does not cause one to fall.

2m Jon Seidel‏@SeidelContent
#DrewPeterson judge says Neri can not testify as an expert — only as Savio's treating physician.

 

[~n/t~]

In Session The witness is asked to leave the courtroom. Once he’s gone, the discussion continues. Connor says that he wants to tender the witness as an expert in neurology and psychiatry, which Goldberg insists is a surprise to the defense. “I think it’s completely improper for discovery purposes.” Judge Burmila then questions Connor about Dr. Neri’s general expertise. Connor: “He’s been treating patients since 1979, and been testifying twice a year . . . in the case that counsel brought up, the court had an issue with his report, and whether what he’d been asked to opine on had been adequately discussed.” Judge: “The issue of him testifying as a treating physician, there’s no question about that . . . but when you give somebody an opinion that just says, ‘I agree with everybody else,’ that’s inadequate.” Connor: “The only opinions he’ll be testifying about are what he said at the grand jury or the hearsay hearing. Counsel has had that for years now.” Judge: “I believe if you’re going to offer somebody as an expert, you have to advise the other side what his expert opinion is, different from a treating physician . . . there’s no question the doctor is qualified; he did treat Miss Savio . . . why he arrived at his diagnosis is certainly an area he can testify to . . . as to his expertise to testify about cervical vertigo in a general sense, and to say that because other people wouldn’t fall down, Ms. Savio wouldn’t fall down, I don’t think those two things necessarily follow one another . . . in this particular instance, I’m not going to allow him to testify as an expert in that area, but he can testify as to anything he did for Miss Savio.” The judge then sends for the witness and the jury.

 

[katydid23]

Beth Karas InSession

The Drew Peterson jurors filed into court today wearing black or dark blue clothes. Yesterday's color was blue. What does this mean? They're out of court so much while attorneys argue motions that, perhaps, they've created their own game to play with us..

That worries me a little. It is not good if the jury unites as a 'one mind' unit. That means that someone or a few someone's are running the show. Somebody had to suggest they ALL wear blue and then they all wear black.

So why is somebody having so much influence on the group? I don't like that.

 

[~n/t~]

Lol, poor jury. I wonder what color they will wear Tuesday? We could start a betting pool.

Yes along with the betting pool on with how many sidebars and being taken out of the court room. LOL

 

[Livingthedream]

That worries me a little. It is not good if the jury unites as a 'one mind' unit. That means that someone or a few someone's are running the show. Somebody had to suggest they ALL wear blue and then they all wear black.

So why is somebody having so much influence on the group? I don't like that.

Yep. If one says he's not guilty, the others end up caving in.

 

[~n/t~]

In Session The witness and the jurors are now back in the courtroom. The witness then identifies “a drawing I made for Kathleen Savio at the time of her first visit. The drawing is then projected for the jury. “This is a little messy . . . basically, what you see here is muscle, specifically the muscle of the neck and shoulder areas. It shows a pulling . . . the next thing is, why is the muscle so tight? It’s adrenaline, your fight or flight chemical . . . in her case, it was going to the neck, primarily, causing this spasm. And that just keeps coming. Adrenaline is the body’s answer to stress . . . she certainly was depressed, and certainly was anxious. It was causing the adrenaline to come out, and the adrenaline was causing the muscles to be tight . . . causing this cervical vertigo.”

 

[SoBeCzar]

OMG...completley O/T here (in a way) but I can't believe what I just found..Has anyone seen this or heard about the judge allowing the defense to view KS past records in a closed benind doors meeting in an effort to further tarnish KS's reputation and she or no one else can defend her against what they say they will be bringing up in court...I am so mad at this judge and the defense team right now I could spit bullets to Bolingbrook from the east coast....grrr!!! go here to read the full article. Below is just an excerpt....jmo...sweets

http://romeoville.patch.com/article...t-look-at-savio-evidence-after-secret-hearing

Drew Peterson's lawyers convinced a Will County judge to let them look at expunged battery cases brought against the former Bolingbrook cop's slain wife.

Defense lawyers Joseph "Shark" Lopez, Lisa Lopez and Joel Brodsky got the go-ahead from Judge Edward Burmila during a closed-door meeting Monday.

Burmila granted the defense motion to "open two unrelated files," and is allowing the lawyers to copy and take notes from court transcripts as well.

It seems the battery charges were battery on DP and Stacey. Kathleen was acquitted. I guess DP didn't just murder Kathleen but also made up some charge against her. Now he wants to use that against her to hurt her image after her death. He's a pig.

 

[LambChop]

That worries me a little. It is not good if the jury unites as a 'one mind' unit. That means that someone or a few someone's are running the show. Somebody had to suggest they ALL wear blue and then they all wear black.

So why is somebody having so much influence on the group? I don't like that.

I think the message is for the judge that they are spending toooooo much time back in the jury room and that they have to find ways to amuse themselves....and this is one of them. jmo

 

[~n/t~]

In Session “In your brain, you need a balance between adrenaline, your fight or flight chemical, and serotonin, your feel good chemical. The problem is that serotonin is only made, and the only time to make it is deep sleep, stages three and four. If you don’t make it, the level falls. If it falls, the adrenaline rises . . . which is why if you’re short of sleep you tend to be a little anxious. She was very anxious. The imbalance of those two chemicals causes you to be depressed . . . it’s like a vice, and it compresses the nerves that come out of the neck, which is what was causing the numbness and tingling.” He prescribed Lorazepam for Savio’s condition. “You have to get the serotonin level up . . . the way to help her sleep is to add Lorazepam at bedtime. And then in the morning, after you make it, we add a serotonin saving agent, like Zoloft . . . now you ‘re not pouring gas on this fire anymore.” “Did you notice that she was having any difficulties with the Zoloft?” “Absolutely none . . . I started her on 50 mgs, and I recall at one point she went up to 100 . . . sometimes she’d drop it down to 75, and sometimes back to 50. Some psychiatrists, I’ve seen them go up to 200, 250 mgs a day.” “She was attempting to cut her dosage in your treatment of her?” “Always.” “Did you notice any ill effects from the Lorazepam?” “Absolutely not.” “Did she make progress?’ “She made a lot of progress. The muscles started to loosen, and all the tingling and numbness went away. The neck tension was improved, the headaches were improved, the cervical vertigo was improved. Everything was improved.”

 

[~n/t~]

In Session “In your opinion, did any of her symptoms indicate that she was predisposed to slip or fall in a bathtub?” “No.” “How long does it take for Lorazepam or Zoloft to get out of a patient’s system?” “Lorazepam is widely known as a 7-1/2 hour drug . . . Zoloft is about the same; it’s a once-a-day drug . . . it’s just one Lorazepam dose at bedtime carries you through the night; one Zoloft in the morning carries you through the day.” That concludes the direct examination of Dr. Neri.

 

[WindyCityGirl]

wearing the colors of the Italian flag.
This could mean nothing --but it may indicate a cohesiveness among them but perhaps not a unified viewpoint. They aren't supposed to be discussing the trial together yet.
Maybe it is a joke in response to the gangster gear worn by the DT

Beth Karas InSession

The Drew Peterson jurors filed into court today wearing black or dark blue clothes. Yesterday's color was blue. What does this mean? They're out of court so much while attorneys argue motions that, perhaps, they've created their own game to play with us..

 

[~n/t~]

Can someone please take over for a about 15 minutes...here is the link. A new thread was started on In Session for the cross by the defense. Thanks.

Be right back

https://www.facebook.com/InSession

 

[mysteriew]

Yep. If one says he's not guilty, the others end up caving in.

I wouldn't mind if the dominant said guilty and the others followed suit.

Their are positives and negatives in the jury uniting. It shows they are bonding, they are willing to work together. Which means they are less likely to end up a hung jury. Are there one or two who are obviously wearing different from the others? Those could be rebels who will hang the jury.

I don't like the fact that they seem to be emulating the defense attornies colors though. It is like they are trying to signal the defense that they support them. It is either that or we have a jury with a sense of humor and are making fun of the peacock attire of the defense.

 

[katydid23]

Well, you know that she fell down the stairs in 1999?” Objection. The parties approach for a sidebar. #

jury hears that Savio fell down stairs in 2002, despite Neri's assertion that her condition wouldn't cause falls.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Beth Karas InSession

The Drew Peterson jurors filed into court today wearing black or dark blue clothes. Yesterday's color was blue. What does this mean? They're out of court so much while attorneys argue motions that, perhaps, they've created their own game to play with us..

BBM:

I see this comment is from Beth, and she is very observant ... so it must be noticeable for her to comment.

I mean WHAT are the chances of 12 people wearing the same color ?

That worries me a little. It is not good if the jury unites as a 'one mind' unit. That means that someone or a few someone's are running the show. Somebody had to suggest they ALL wear blue and then they all wear black.

So why is somebody having so much influence on the group? I don't like that.

BBM: Good point, and I agree ... hinky, IMO

:waitasec: I hope this is NOT another Pinellas 12 :banghead:

:moo:

 

[katydid23]

In Session Attorney Darryl Goldberg begins his cross-examination of Dr. Neri: “When was the last time that you saw Miss Savio?” “February 6 of 2002.” “You know that she passed in 2004?” “Yes.” “So it was two years before her death since you last saw her?” “Yes.” “So you have no idea of her medical condition at the time of her death?” “Yes.” “She’d want to cut back on her medications?” “Right.” “So despite your expert medical suggestions, she’d do whatever she wanted to do?” Objection/Overruled. “I wouldn’t exactly say that . . . she came in and told me that she’d done it, that she was drowsy.” “So when you told this jury she didn’t have any side effects, that wasn’t true?” “It was true.” “One of the drugs you gave her was Lorazepam?” ‘Right.” “And that was one of the drugs she’d fluctuate of her own free will?” “Depending on how she was sleeping . . . that’s commonly done.” “In Lorazepam, one of the side effects is drowsiness?” “That’s the point.” “And dizziness?” “If you take it in the daytime, yes.” “And Zoloft . . . if you discontinue Zoloft, one of the side effects is dizziness?” “It depends on how you do it . . . it can be.” “So, again, you don’t know if Miss Savio was taking two pills of Zoloft before she died, and then went totally to zero?” “I don’t know that”