Drunk man sues casino for $500 grand he lost while drunk

[Sonya610]

Obviously this man has some personal responsibility but should casinos have a moral obligation to ensure people don't lose more than they can afford when under the influence.

That slope is WAY to slippery! If that case wins then folks that have 2 drinks will want to get their money back after losing too!

As others have said, personal responsibility!

Banning alcohol in casinos is NEVER going to happen (at least not in Nevada or on Indian reservations). Gambling is supposed to be FUN and that means customers want a drink and often a cigarette.

 

[Tawny]

For the most part I think it's evil for casinos to loan anybody $500,000, drunk or not. Anybody who needs to borrow that kind of money to continue gambling can't afford to lose it.

I definitely agree with that.

 

[al66pine]

Johnston said he was invited to stay at the Downtown Grand over Super Bowl weekend by a casino host he knows. ... http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/24899851/gambler-claims-he-was-too-drunk?hpt=ju_bn3 ....
This fellow was an invited guest over Super Bowl weekend. He is a gambler and this was not his first rodeo. The above bolded phrase is quite interesting to me. This would be HIS casino host - not just someone he knows. It most certainly would be someone who knows him, his gaming history and his financial ability to pay. I don't know much about the casino in question but most casinos are very particular about conducting due diligence, particularly when such large sums are at stake.
....

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Like fairy1 said, w an invite, esp for SuperBowl wk-end, seems like
he was not a blushing-bride at casino games.

Anyone w casino employment experience or gambling experience?

Anyone w links to his ct-filed docs - petition/complaint?
Casino's response?
If so, thx in adv. :seeya:

 

[Fairy1]

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Like fairy1 said, w an invite, esp for SuperBowl wk-end, seems like
he was not a blushing-bride at casino games.

Anyone w casino employment experience or gambling experience?

Anyone w/links to his ct-filed docs- petition/complaint?
Casino's response?
If so, thx in adv. :seeya:

Me

 

[al66pine]

That slope is WAY to slippery! If that case wins then folks that have 2 drinks will want to get their money back after losing too! ....

SBM for focus

Las Vegas, oh yeah.
I lost a Benjamin after a glass of house red,
Downing a gin and tonic, my friend was taken for three Grants.
After a Chablis, my Mother squandered 2 rolls of quarters in the slots.
The guy w a whisky left a couple Grovers on the table next to us.

Can we get a class action going? :floorlaugh: Who else?

 

[gregjrichards]

This story was featured on the five show on Fox News today. Basically Kimberly Guilfoyle, a former prosecutor now co-anchor said this man does have a case but the best he can hope for is a settlement. I don't see a settlement coming anytime soon as it sets a dangerous precedent for the casinos as many of you have said.

The pursuer's lawyer was interviewed on video and he seemed to feel strongly about the case and that the casinos actions were wrong.

 

[al66pine]

Bingo?!?!?!
We have someone who can add some practical wisdom to our discussion as a person w casino employment experience. Fairy1. thank you.

Like fairy1 said, w an invite, before SuperBowl wk-end, seems like
the plaintiff was not a blushing-bride at casino games.

I'm curious about the thinking on both (or more) sides.
Is it Joe Average vs BigCasino?
Or is gambling is inherently evil?
Or is alcohol inherently evil?
Or this man must be an alcoholic, has a disease, so should be treated differenly that others in the casino.
Or the combo of alcohol and gambling?

Let's take the alcohol out of it for hypothetical Qs.

Let's say this (below) is all documented by text, email, recorded lines, no he said/she said.

Pre-visit authorization
Communication asked him pre-visit, $ line of credit he wanted?
Did he respond - $1000. $10,000. $1000,000. $500,000. $1,000,000?
If, pre-visit, he said $500,000 line of cr, and he lost $500,000, does that influence your thoughts about the merits?
If, pre-visit, he said $1,000,000 line of cr, and he lost 'only' $500,000?
If pre-visit, he wanted $10,000 line of cr and losing $10,000? Then what?
What if this dude is actually Bill Gates or Jeff Zuckerberg in disguise?
Or someone w $100,000,000 handy in a checking a/c?
$10,000,000?
$1,000,000?
$500,000.
For any or all of the above, who should 'win' this case in court?
Who is 'in the right' morally?

Fairy1, can you tell us more about what you know or think to be more-or-less standard casino policy re ^^^^?

If the guy had gambled $Xthere before, would a casino say -
if you want to fly in for the wk end and play $XX here,
we'll comp a suite, meals, drinks, CirquedeSoleil, spa treatments for Gf, and send you air tickets?

 

[Fairy1]

I haven't found the lawsuit docs, but some of the claims are mentioned in this story:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/us/california-drunken-gambler-las-vegas-casino/

 

[Fairy1]

Bingo?!?!?!
We have someone who can add some practical wisdom to our discussion as a person w casino employment experience. Fairy1. thank you.

Like fairy1 said, w an invite, esp for SuperBowl wk-end, seems like
the plaintiff was not a blushing-bride at casino games.

I'm curious about the thinking on both (or more sides)
Is it Joe Average vs BigCasino?
Or is gambling is inherently evil?
Or is alcohol inherently evil?
Or this man must be an alcoholic, has a disease, so should be treated differenly that others in the casino.
Or the combo of alcohol and gambling?

Let's take the alcohol out of it for hypothetical Qs.

Let's say this (below) is all documented by text, email, recorded lines, no he said/she said.

Pre-visit authorization
Communication asked him pre-visit, $ line of credit he wanted?
Did he respond - $1000. $10,000. $1000,000. $500,000. $1,000,000?
If, pre-visit, he said $500,000 line of cr, and he lost $500,000, does that influence your thoughts about the merits?
If, pre-visit, he said $1,000,000 line of cr, and he lost 'only' $500,000?
If pre-visit, he wanted $10,000 line of cr and losing $10,000? Then what?
What if this dude is actually Bill Gates or Jeff Zuckerberg in disguise?
Or someone w $100,000,000 handy in a checking a/c?
$10,000,000?
$1,000,000?
$500,000.
For any or all of the above, who should 'win' this case in court?
Who is 'in the right' morally?

Fairy1, can you tell us more about what you know or think to be more-or-less standard casino policy re ^^^^?

If the guy had gambled $Xthere before, would a casino say -
if you want to see the SuperBowl here and play $XX,
we'll comp a suite, meals, drinks, CirquedeSoleil, spa treatments for Gf, and send you air tickets?

This guy is definitely a regular player - and a big one. The article I just posted says he is typically a cash player, so he doesn't normally use a line of credit.

The company I work for is very, very conservative in extending credit. Heavy drinking aside, there are many factors that are considered when a credit line is granted. I don't know anything about the casino in question here, but I have to assume they have credit policies in place that would have to be followed. I also believe that, for the amounts pertaining to this case, more than one person would have to have authorized the credit.

No doubt, there will be surveillance video that will support one side or the other. If he was falling down drunk and they continued to let him draw on his line and play, they screwed up. I find it hard to believe they would do that, but I suppose it's possible. Then again, they may have really tried to stop him, but he is a grown man.

44 hour blackout? Jeez.

 

[Karmady]

The gucci cap tells me everything I need to know about this man...not even kidding lol smh