DY and KH know Terri is lying

[Calliope]

It just occured to me while watching this video again about Kaine and Desiree.
They are talking about Terri failing the LTD, and being very vocal about it, funny how they believed her on that one!

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2010/07/kyron_hormans_parents_share_de.html

lol

Seems to be the only thing they think she told the truth about...

 

[2goldfish]

Who would hide a kid this long though as a favor to someone? That's one helluva favor.

I know that's likely true. stranger things have happened though I dont want to believe a precious child is irretrievably gone til I have to KWIM?

 

[justathought]

Y'll, I think too much is being read into body language. Example from this week in my life that is still troubling me, last week I was in a roundtable type meeting directly affecting the work that I do. I was taking notes, listening intently, and speaking at times but mostly letting others talk-- that was the point of the meeting. After the meeting, one board member told another, I seemed disengaged and not myself. The other board member said, "I had a lot on my mind due to my divorce." The first board member subsequently called me to inquire. I was floored and astounded. I wasn't disengaged, nothing was on my mind but the discussion and how to bring forth the points being made in an upcoming strategic planning session with the entire board. My divorce was three years ago! I've asked myself over and over, how on earth did they come up with those observations!! I've decided I need a face lift.

My observation is that pretty much everyone has personal issues....but absolutely nothing was on my mind in that regard or any other personal issue that day. This misobservation, hopefully won't but could have an effect on my future employment.

Terri is in a difficult spot. I hope she wasn't involved. I hope Kyron is alive.
Innocent or guilty, she just can't talk at this point. Recently, sorry I can't recall the name, a 20 year old cold case was solved here a month or so ago...a serial killer from out of state. Her fiance at the time, whom I know casually, was always the suspect, didn't do it and it always affected his life to a degree.
My daughter is a step-mother. She's a great one. Orginally, there was alot of animosity...then none...the step and the bio became friends. In May, the 17-year-old moved out on her own..my daughter had nothing to do with it but given the situation would have preferred if that was going to happen that the girl had come to live with her but she won't. The mother is blaming my daughter. My daughter was as astounded as the entire family when the girl left. My daughter, now divorced from the father, is praying for peace in the valley for all parties and that the seventeen year old doesn't throw a promising future away.

 

[Calliope]

Did Terri REALLY have PPD, was she really being treated for it, or was that just Kaines "assumption".?

<snipped>

Horman said he thought his marriage to Terri Moulton Horman fractured within six months after she gave birth in November 2008, the result of postpartum depression.

Terri Horman was put on medication for the depression, and her doctor told Kaine to keep an eye on her to make sure she was OK, he said. But she wasn't OK.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html

 

[mom_of_five]

Talk of PPD...TH possibly not being able to 'remember' what she did that morning: sounds like a great set-up for an insanity defense to me. Just my opinion.

 

[Noway]

Who would hide a kid this long though as a favor to someone? That's one helluva favor.

IF he is alive and with someone else, I'm not sure it was a "favor" to Terri but "payment" of some kind.

I also wonder what type of criminal element she brought into their lives if she was out looking for someone to kill her husband. Someone may have decided they'd get more $ for Kyron (Portland being a human trafficking mecca.)

 

[grandmaj]

Peeps I've changed the title of this thread. I don't believe Desiree meant literally Terri can't remember. I think she is referring to her not being truthful. As we have heard in other videos.

Here is another article.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/10/kyrons-parents-describe-web-of-deception-from-stepmom/

 

[For The Kids]

What a nightmare it must be for them to know she is lying ... and not be able to get her to tell the truth.

Terri is in a difficult spot. I hope she wasn't involved. I hope Kane is alive.
Innocent or guilty, she just can't talk at this point. Recently, sorry I can't recall the name, a 20 year old cold case was solved here a month or so ago...a serial killer from out of state. Her fiance at the time, whom I know casually, was always the suspect, didn't do it and it always affected his life to a degree.
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Erm yes I hope Kaine is still alive too..tho i THINK you meant Kyron.

 

[believe09]

That's the way I think she perceived it, and intended to make the school be the first to admit he was gone...I truly think that this was a set-up for a huge lawsuit against the school district.

This is a really interesting theory.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Who would hide a kid this long though as a favor to someone? That's one helluva favor.

I know, right? I have wonderful friends and family and there is no way in hades any of them would hide my child for me unless some Mexican cartel or Mafia gangsters were after her. And even then, they'd tell me to go to the FBI or something.

In my opinion, TH knows exactly what happened to Kyron and where he is. She needs to tell LE what happened.

 

[AbbieNormal]

Erm yes I hope Kaine is still alive too..tho i THINK you meant Kyron.

Just jumping off your post, I am sure she meant Kyron too but honestly poor Kaine looks dead inside to me, as another poster said, like a hollow shell.

 

[mom_of_five]

Whether TH says she can't remember where she was or if where she does say she was doesn't match up with LE's discoveries, it's all semantics. Both scenarios mean she's lying.

 

[Noway]

I suppose Terri could have fed the "someone who has Kyron" some story. I wonder if there is anyone in her life who would do anything for her -- old friend, old flame, whoever.

 

[believe09]

I do not believe that people always lie, just like people always tell the truth. FWIW.

Let's say for a moment that TH's initial statements regarding her whereabouts do not seem to match independent scrutiny-like cell phone pings or bank records. When questioned about that with polygraph equipment, (SPECULATING HERE) let's say the results indicate deception.

Well then it is safe for KH and DY to say or even imply that TH's version of events does not match the evidence-or more simply that she is not cooperating and/or lying.

This does not mean TH is responsible for Kyron's disappearance, but it certainly makes it much more difficult to clear her from the investigation. And that is all LE wants to do. You start inside with the people closest and you eliminate them allowing you to look further away. Time is of the essence and in fact, they are continuing to waste time on TH if she is not involved, because she is not making it easy for them to eliminate her and to focus their efforts elsewhere.

So she needs to take whatever steps that will eliminate her from this inquiry in order to allow LE to find the real perp. That is her job as a parent and as a contributing member of society.

If she was doing something that she would rather hide, the FBI is not going to make it front page news. Kaine and Desiree might-but LE will not. They havent yet. JMVHO.

Here is my question to TH-How much worse can this all really get? Get yourself eliminated from this investigation.....

 

[For The Kids]

Just jumping off your post, I am sure she meant Kyron too but honestly poor Kaine looks dead inside to me, as another poster said, like a hollow shell.

I totally agree and I am just so pleased that he has baby K with him. At least it gives him something positive to focus on at this horrific time

 

[AbbieNormal]

This is a really interesting theory.

It IS an interesting theory, but I don't think it was Terri's intention to sue the school for $$ and that's why she choose to take Kyron away when the school was supposed to be responsible for his safety at that time. I think she took him then because to her it was a perfect way to get rid of him and have the blame put on the school instead of on her. The suing and money issue was secondary, and maybe didn't even occur to Terri at the time. I am under the impression Kaine made decent salary and there was really no need for Terri to pull off such a stunt merely for the possible lawsuit that might ensue later.
I am sure Terri thought she was so clever in her plan that nobody would even suspect she was involved. Boy, was she mistaken.

 

[x_files]

Who would hide a kid this long though as a favor to someone? That's one helluva favor.

Since Kyron isn't her child, it's not hiding him out due to a custody issue. If she thought Kyron was being abused she'd call Desiree and Tony.
So, it leaves us with a few nefarious reasons. Either sold or traded him. Or wanted him for ransom, but where is the request for money?
This doesn't look good to me.
Does anyone have any references to step-mother/father abduction cases where she hid the child and later recovered? I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Maybe it was a ill conceived ransom plot that went south? Maybe she trusted an untrustworthy person (anyone wiling to hide, take or kidnap a child is a criminal and therefore cannot be trusted) and the took or sold Kyron and didn't follow her plan?
Portland has a large human trafficking problem- this worries me.
This is all just MOO up for speculation and theories.
If this is true the movie Fargo comes to mind. A complex ill conceived plot for ransom that goes wrong.

 

[raeann]

I agree with what retired captain C.W. Jensen stated in the video.

That's fine....but remember to take it with a box of salt, in light of this particular officers questionable background of honesty. He is hardly a representative that the Portland Police or any other LE agency would choose to be interpreting their case for them. (See link below)

Also, remember that the MCSO came out after the very interview posted of DY and KH and said very explicitly that the information in the interviews DID NOT came from investigation sources.


http://wweek.com/editorial/3018/4872/

 

[Noway]

Maybe she didn't expect this much media coverage for Kyron being missing and her plans had to change?

 

[human]

she may walk around "free" if LE can't nail her, but wait until she sees what her "free" is.

She better like living with her parents or in a homeless shelter somewhere.

Maybe she does have some friends without children that will take her in. But will they keep feeding her and buying clothes and gas for her?