Ebola outbreak - general thread #1

[trigger]

Military personnel that volunteer, right? Right?



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...atlanta-centers-for-disease-control/15691299/

spokesman Josh Earnest said Obama believes that "making an investment here early is critical to trying to snuff out this problem before it becomes a much more widespread problem."

Snuff out this problem early? Really?

CDC is a joke.

Does this president need approval to send our troops there?

 

[Elley Mae]

spokesman Josh Earnest said Obama believes that "making an investment here early is critical to trying to snuff out this problem before it becomes a much more widespread problem."

Snuff out this problem early? Really?

CDC is a joke.

Does this president need approval to send our troops there?

I agree, why not Dr's? I think the problem is people there are not listening and or don't know what to do when someone with it starts showing signs. This is not going to end well, jmo. I read were they are making it against the law iirc seirra leone (sp) to hide/keep secret someone that was sick. The people don't seem to understand about the importance of quarantine. Travel should be halted to the usa, jmo, We should be protected from this.

 

[Soulmagent]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eb...la-problem-charity-wants-new-strategy-n202486

This article brings to mind that huge FEMA camp conspiracy theory. I am not posting the following link to discuss this ,but it was an interesting to consider and ironic considering the potential devastation if this was to be 1/4 of what the worst case could be for this virus. I feel most people seems to be completely unaware of the drastic nature of this outbreak. JMO

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2009/07/fema-camps-trains-buses-coffins-martial.html

 

[Sonya610]

I was on the ER a few nights ago, huge signs were posted outside instructing people that if they had recently returned from South Africa to :......

Wow. Now that is worrisome. Folks are free to come and go as they like? And if they just came back from South Africa and walked into a crowded ER waiting room....they should notify the attendant in case it is Ebola?

I saw this article from the CDC on tips for "Suiting up to treat Ebola" and it is quite extreme:
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/suiting-up-for-ebola/1312/?hpid=z4

Body fully covered, gloves taped, respirator, have a partner to check to make sure your protective outfit doesn't have any tears, etc... Sounds like a radiation suit.

It also says soap and water or a weak chlorine solution to disinfect? Even the CDC recommendation for mortuaries says "use a broad spectrum disinfectant" which is extremely NON specific.

That part surprised me, apparently the virus is very easily transmitted among hosts but also dies easily outside of the host (good news that).

 

[trigger]

So good old Obama is sending 3,000 US Troops to W Africa to help with the ebola virus. He is asking for 500 million dollars, when we already gave 175mi already.

He is out of his mind sending the troops over there. And so is Congress. Im so done with all of them.

 

[doubt]

obama is doing exactly what he needs to do.

kind of astonished that when we can actually send troops to do something that doesn't involve bombing and killing that folks would complain.

 

[atthelake]

obama is doing exactly what he needs to do.
<snip>.

I have not been able to read up on the details and will do so later... Damn it's about time. I so agree with the decision in theory

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[Linda7NJ]

I have not been able to read up on the details and will do so later... Damn it's about time. I so agree with the decision in theory

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I think the military setting up MASH units is a good thing.


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[Paulette]

PBS documentary Frontline: "Ebola Outbreak" - it's pretty intense, this is how Ebola is dealt with in Sierra Leone - absolutely horrifying. Note, most of the doctors & nurses have already died from Ebola, thus limiting what hospitals can do for patients.

Bill Gates & Paul Allen gave $62M to the CDC just the other day.

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365321775/

It's free too.

This is Frontline's site, it may be better than my local PBS. Plus there are many other videos of interest.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/

 

[Herding Cats]

Thanks for that link to the PBS video Paulette. Very powerful. I don't know how they're going to even begin get in front of this.

My heart breaks. I'll keep praying, but my heart breaks.

Best, ,
Hc

 

[trigger]

obama is doing exactly what he needs to do.

kind of astonished that when we can actually send troops to do something that doesn't involve bombing and killing that folks would complain.

The Military are not Doctors. Our servicemen will get this disease and bring it back to the states.

 

[Yoda]

My problem with sending our military is those going do not have a choice. If the military were to ask for volunteers, that would be acceptable. Th

Ebola's fatality rate at the moment is about 54%.

I can't find numbers how many US citizens are volunteering currently with the ebola outbreak.

 

[atthelake]

The Military are not Doctors. Our servicemen will get this disease and bring it back to the states.

Respectfully, the military has many doctors, nurses, technicians, etc. The military has the capabilities to set up what is known as *MASH* units and they can be more of a "well oiled machine" in the way that they operate. Their organizational capabilities can be much more than separate NGOs imho. I am glad that they are going to be dispatched in a humanitarian effort, which in the end, could be protecting the US citizens more by helping to curtail the spread. :moo:

 

[chlban]

Respectfully, the military has many doctors, nurses, technicians, etc. The military has the capabilities to set up what is known as *MASH* units and they can be more of a "well oiled machine" in the way that they operate. Their organizational capabilities can be much more than separate NGOs imho. I am glad that they are going to be dispatched in a humanitarian effort, which in the end, could be protecting the US citizens more by helping to curtail the spread. :moo:

Exactly. If this is not curtailed the results will be far more extreme.

 

[atthelake]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/16/obama-to-announce-ebola-force-of-3000-us-military-personnel

Obama to announce Ebola force of 3,000 US military personnel

Contingent being sent to west Africa will train health workers, build treatment centres and deliver resources to tackle epidemic

Administration officials said on Monday that the new initiatives aimed to train as many as 500 healthcare workers a week; erect 17 healthcare facilities in the region of 100 beds each; set up a joint command headquartered in Monrovia, Liberia, to co-ordinate between US and international relief efforts; provide home healthcare kits to hundreds of thousands of households, including 50,000 that the US Agency for International Development will deliver to Liberia this week; and carry out a home and community-based campaign to train local populations on how to handle exposed patients.

The US effort will include medics and other personnel for treatment and training, engineers to help erect the treatment facilities and specialists in logistics to assist in patient transportation.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest, responding to criticism that the US needed a more forceful response to the outbreak, said on Monday that Obama had identified the outbreak &#8220;as a top national security priority&#8221;, worried that it could contribute to political instability in the region and that the virus could transform and become more contagious.

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power, on Monday called for an emergency meeting of the UN security council on Thursday, warning that the potential risk of the virus could &#8220;set the countries of west Africa back a generation&#8221;.

Power said the meeting on Thursday would mark a rare occasion when the security council, which is responsible for threats to international peace and security, addressed a public health crisis.

 

[Lyra500]

Anyone who believes that not sending troops or personnel to try and get a grip of this epidemic is somehow miraculously going to preserve their country from this infection is living in cloud cuckoo land in my view.

As has been mentioned on numerous occasions, viruses mutate as they pass from host to host - all it takes is a mutation to make Ebola airborne or more easily transmitted that it already is and we are all under the most extreme threat - all of us anywhere in the world.

There are some excellent plans now for MASH units and protective gear and training for the relatives of the sick - so that despite the lack of isolation units something can be done to stop spread in the community. In my view it is long overdue, but at least it is happening.

We need to SLOW DOWN and then STOP the spread and we need to provide the countries affected with the tools to be able to do that. Anything else is fiddling whilst Rome burns and the whole world will pay the price.

 

[atthelake]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/16/fact-sheet-us-response-ebola-epidemic-west-africa
The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release
September 16, 2014
FACT SHEET: U.S. Response to the Ebola Epidemic in West Africa

 

[Hiandmighty]

Probably not ebola but I never even thought of the ports:

http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/local/orleans/2014/09/17/health-officials-to-board-ship-docking-in-no-tonight/15791245/

 

[Yoda]

A British nurse who recovered from Ebola has travelled to the US to donate blood to try to save the life of another victim of the virus.

Mr Pooley is thought to have flown to Atlanta at the weekend after the Foreign Office issued him with an emergency passport.
Both Mr Pooley and the new victim, who has not been named, are believed to have worked together in Sierra Leone.

It doesn't look good for the unnamed patient in Atlanta.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29248080

 

[Yoda]

The first French Ebola patient was set to be flown home Thursday, as the World Bank warned the spiralling epidemic is threatening economic catastrophe in west Africa.Doctors Without Borders, known by its French acronym MSF, said a female volunteer had contracted the killer virus while on assignment in Liberia.

http://www.modernghana.com/news/569782/1/first-french-ebola-victim-to-be-flown-home.html