Ebola outbreak - general thread #1

[Irisha]

Wait... his half-brother just said on CNN.. did he get Ebola here or in Liberia? Wolf said, it's pretty clear he came here with it.

I couldn't understand 1 word the 1/2 brother was saying. But I doubt I would believe anything he said.:moo:

 

[Lyra500]

Plus didn't the landlords son die the next day also? He wasn't pregnant.

No he did not. The pregnant daughter died the next day. The son died last Wednesday. This is from an original post by SallyLu quoting a NY times article.

On Sept 15, Mr. Duncan helped his landlord and his landlord’s son carry the stricken woman to the hospital, his neighbors and the woman’s parents said. She died the next day.
Soon, the landlord’s son also became ill, and he died on Wednesday in an ambulance on the way to the hospital

Wednesday was 24th September, several days after Mr Duncan arrived in the US.

 

[Detective Klimpt]

So - if they thought her illness was pregnancy related, at what point did they know it was Ebola - before or after Mr Duncan left for the US? If it was after, then I do not see how he can be accused of lying.

Since she was turned away from the hospital, she died without a diagnosis - I wonder at what point they received confirmation that it was Ebola rather than a pregnancy related condition.

Nobody is that naiive. Maybe when her brother and two neighbors died.

 

[SweetT]

No he did not. The pregnant daughter died the next day. The son died last Wednesday. This is from an original post by SallyLu quoting a NY times article.




Wednesday was 24th September, several days after Mr Duncan arrived in the US.

Wednesday was the 17 th before he left

 

[popsicle]

This man didn't come here and isolate himself... he didn't isolate when he first became sick, he didn't seek medical help when he first became sick! He waited 2 days before he sought out medical treatment knowing he was exposing others, many others, to Ebola.

 

[Lyra500]

Again when the son died a day later he knew pregnancy was not the problem.

The son did not die a day later - where have you had that information from?

Please see SallyLu's post #530.

The son died last Wednesday 24th September, nine days after trying to help his sister and four days after Mr Duncan arrived in the US.

 

[Lyra500]

Nobody is that naiive. Maybe when her brother and two neighbors died.

They all died last Wednesday - he wasn't even in Liberia any more.

 

[Le Singe]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 2m2 minutes ago
Associate of U.S. #Ebola patient says he contacted the CDC with concerns Dallas hospital wasn’t moving fast enough. http://cnn.it/YOXu2X

The close associate, who does not want to be identified because of the sensitivity of the case, said he contacted the CDC with concerns that the hospital wasn't moving quickly enough after Duncan's second hospital visit.

my god ... that is freakin outrageous. Note to self try not to get injured/sick while in the dallas fort worth metro-plex

 

[Detective Klimpt]

They knew she had Ebola because (my bolding)....
"The family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help after failing to get an ambulance. Ms. Williams was turned away for lack of space in the hospital’s Ebola treatment ward, the family said, and they took her back home in the evening, hours before she died."

 

[Peliman]

State press conference to be held any minute concerning the current patient. No links yet...

 

[Momoffourboys]

Why should alarm bells have rung when he entered the US - or are you in the group who think that no one from Africa should be allowed into the US ever again?

Not everyone in Africa has Ebola and even in the affected countries 30% of people in the treatment centres recover due to the supportive care received allowing their immune systems to beat the infection.

This is why more treatment and isolation centres are needed.

BBM

OHHH...because Liberia has an Ebola epidemic.
And now that we know he lied on his health questionaire, I believe that anyone entering the U.S from any country with a national health crisis should be quarantined. It may be inconvenient, but, it sure beats THIS.
Other countries are proactive, as they should be.

ALSO, please don't put words in my mouth or "group" me with others. TIA.

 

[Peliman]

Press conference when it goes live.

http://www.keyetv.com/news/features/live-events/?wap=0/

 

[Le Singe]

He definitely lied by omission! He speaks English and understands it. He could have used the words but he didn't.

It was an intent to deceive.

are you sure he didn't HIS family called to CDC to tell them they didn't think the hospital was taking it serious why would they do that if they were being deceitful.

 

[cady]

Telling a lie to increase your chances of survival isn't the issue.. It's the putting other innocent people at risk of dying that is the issue..

I imagine it was Duncan's issue. JMO

 

[Lyra500]

Wednesday was the 17 th before he left

No, it was not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/w...m-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?smid=tw-share

Sonny Boy, 21, also started getting sick about a week ago, his family said, around the same time that Mr. Duncan first started showing symptoms.

So he started getting sick and showing symptoms at the same time that Mr Duncan was doing so in the US. This is clearly NOT the 17th September.

 

[Le Singe]

Friend of patient called CDC with concerns


According to CNN, a close associate of the patient had to call the CDC during his second visit to the hospital. The doctors still weren't taking the case seriously. The friend called the CDC and told them of the patients illness, symptoms and risk factors saying he probably had Ebola. The CDC told them to call the state health department, who then called the hospital and told them to put him in isolation and test for Ebola.

Were it not for the patient and his friend's insistence, the diagnosis could have been delayed much longer.




http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

ridiculous ... and it's very disappointing to me that people are going out of the way to put the blame on the guy who isn't american.

 

[SStarr33]

ridiculous ... and it's very disappointing to me that people are going out of the way to put the blame on the guy who isn't american.

Um, the "guy who isn't american" LIED about his exposure.

 

[popsicle]

Andrew Hasbun ‏@andrewfox10 3m3 minutes ago
Half-brother of US Ebola patient and Phoenix resident optimistic bro will be ok. Son is in Dallas & now quarantined.

 

[Le Singe]

I am more angry at the selfishness of this patient to fail to disclose that he handled a woman dying of Ebola more than I am at the hospital for slipping up and releasing him thinking he had the flu. How many more people will he take down with him because he didn't bother to tell anyone and emphasize that he was from Liberia??? I also think for now, until it is contained we should close our borders to those flying from countries who have had the outbreak recently.

I would agree with this if that those were the facts but they're not

According to CNN, a close associate of the patient had to call the CDC during his second visit to the hospital. The doctors still weren't taking the case seriously. The friend called the CDC and told them of the patients illness, symptoms and risk factors saying he probably had Ebola. The CDC told them to call the state health department, who then called the hospital and told them to put him in isolation and test for Ebola.

Were it not for the patient and his friend's insistence, the diagnosis could have been delayed much longer.




http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

Why do you think the hospital is publicly admitting as much as they have? because this guys family had to call the CDC and make them call the hospital so they know they're busted.

 

[Le Singe]

I think the guy came here to the US to get treated for Eobla. In the article that I read that someone posted in this thread it mentioned that his son lived in the US and had been trying for years to get him to come out here. I wonder if he didn't go the US to save his life because he knew he was going to come down with Ebola and more than likely die due to there being no room in hospitals Ebola Unit?



From: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/w...html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

he was exposed on the 15th he got on a plane on the 19th.

Are you suggesting he planned the international travel, got plan tickets, and got a visa in three days all while in Liberia....

There's no way he clearly already had the trip planned.