Ebola outbreak - general thread #3

[Dogface]

Jesus at the river! Why would he just go to a care now?!?!

 

[WideOpen]

I'm saying prayers for Sr. Sgt. Michael Monnig and his family, as well as others close to this in Texas. Very scary.

http://triblive.com/usworld/nation/6927101-74/ebola-virus-outbreak#ixzz3FVzGQnNs

Other public health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids. “Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection,” said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.
Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

If Ebola were to mutate on its path from human to human, said Russell and other scientists, its virulence might wane — or it might spread in ways not observed during past outbreaks, which were stopped after transmission among two to three people, before the virus had a greater chance to evolve. The present outbreak in West Africa has killed about 3,400 people.
“I see the reasons to dampen down public fears,” Russell said. “But scientifically, we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man. ... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't.”

JMO

 

[atthelake]

The most important thing for a deadly epidemic with major downside is communication and awareness. :moo:

Hard to balance for the national governmental authorities though as it causes many folks to over react. But it is better safe than sorry right now to notify the public.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

OMG...the CDC press conference. This is seriously messed up.

The Dept. of Homeland Security will issue a DETAILED QUESTIONAIRE! And check for FEVER when they arrive! And fevers are common! And Malaria is common!

Okay then. As upset as we the public are over these press conferences, I am sure the officials at the CDC are even more upset, they know better and they are MADE to say these ridiculous things.

And as someone pointed out on the news this morning, if you have a fever all you need to do is take an anti inflammatory and you could well fool the check.

 

[Minette]

So we are to believe that the Spanish nurse possibly contracted Ebola while removing her protective equipment (indirect contact) and YET the Texas deputy could not POSSIBLY have contracted Ebola from indirect contact?

OK, then.

 

[sloane7777]

Jesus at the river! Why would he just go to a care now?!?!

less than 1 mile from where my hubby works ! I already told him get butt in car, do not stop between here and Irving! good lord!

 

[sloane7777]

Can everyone agree we arent handling this correctly?

 

[trigger]

I personally don't think they have a leg to stand on with a law suit imo.. They got great free care a house etc.. IMO the citizens of Dallas did more than they should have.. IMO his family needs to be sued for putting the citizens of Dallas at unnecessary risk.. Don't slap your southern hospitality in the face.

Yup, ITA.

 

[Muffet]

We are now being told that he was not on the CDC's list of people to watch, even though he went into the apartment and touched things without and protection.

Of course, this being the same CDC who also took Youngor out of isolation last week and told her she could go back to work as a nursing assistant at a nursing home. :doh:

Not to harp, but I maintain my position that they are taking unnecessary risks.

(FTR, I have nothing but respect for the great scientists at the CDC and their historic achievements. But their politically driven management and beaurocracy deserves the loads of criticism it has been receiving for fumbling of things beyond just their response to the ebola threat - criticism that has come from the left, the right, and from their own frustrated scientists.)

 

[cady]

Well, if it is true that the officer told the clinic that he had contact with patient zero, no wonder they panicked. Going into the apartment when Duncan was not even there and having direct contact with him are two different things, entirely. Very strange. JMO

 

[Sonya610]

Obviously, this poor dog didn't eat any flesh of a corpse since this woman is still alive. I also am skeptical about these claims.

I will also point out that the majority of deaths AND infection are coming from HUMAN contagion. And then supposedly humans are ONLY contagious after they show obvious symptoms! Yuppers.

So to date NO DOG has NEVER shown symptoms or died from Ebola, or is known to be spreading it, yet DOGS are being killed to stop the Ebola infections in first world countries?

Really?

Maybe the airports should start checking the temperature of dogs boarding international flights (extreme sarcasm). Yeah, that will fix it.

 

[FlamingoLady]

http://ktla.com/2014/10/08/possible...-at-inglewood-hospital-after-arriving-at-lax/

Well this is in my neck of the woods. I don't understand why this person is in the hospital if he did not have any symptoms but that's today's reporting for you.....

 

[SweetT]

Well, if it is true that the officer told the clinic that he had contact with patient zero, no wonder they panicked. Going into the apartment when Duncan was not even there and having direct contact with him are two different things, entirely. Very strange. JMO

Well he did puke poop sweat and lay on all mattresses there

 

[Muffet]

Can everyone agree we arent handling this correctly?

I can. IMO, The only people who have handled things responsibly have been Frisco and Youngor.

That's a shame.

 

[mck16]

CNN cannot report anything right. They just cause panic and confusion. JMO

 

[WideOpen]

Deputy's family said the CDC assured them there is no way he contracted Ebola.

So perhaps the deputy did contact the CDC and they told him to walk into the clinic. The CDC seems to be standing behind their statement & belief that these people are not in danger of catching ebola. I hope and pray they are correct.

When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes in, for example, the eyes, nose, or mouth) with

blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
infected animals
Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus.
Healthcare providers caring for Ebola patients and the family and friends in close contact with Ebola patients are at the highest risk of getting sick because they may come in contact with infected blood or body fluids of sick patients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/

 

[FlamingoLady]

http://ktla.com/2014/10/08/possible...-at-inglewood-hospital-after-arriving-at-lax/

Well this is in my neck of the woods. I don't understand why this person is in the hospital if he did not have any symptoms but that's today's reporting for you.....

Sorry, quoting myself...I found it interesting that LAX was NOT one of the airports listed for implementing the new "screening" procedures. I mean, really? Los Angeles International? But sounds like, for some unknown reason, this person was plucked from LAX after traveling from Liberia and taken to Centinela Hospital.

 

[Minette]

I despise ignorance. This was so unnecessary and thoughtless. I'm new here so I'm just finding my way around. Not sure how to quote every post, BUT someone posted earlier that some dogs contracted Ebola from eating flesh from corpses.

Obviously, this poor dog didn't eat any flesh of a corpse since this woman is still alive. I also am skeptical about these claims.

Almost ZERO human diseases can be transmitted to animals, just like almost ZERO animal diseases can be transmitted to humans.

Forgive me for what may seem like an over-reaction to this news. I am an animal lover who fosters dogs and cats until they can find forever homes, and I've been exposed to a lot of diseases that dogs and cats carry. The worst I've ever gotten from an infected animal was ringworm.

Although unpleasant and uncomfortable, it's treatable with topical meds. I don't mean to diminish the Ebola virus in humans, but killing the dog seems like a knee jerk reaction.

BBM:

And of course, if dogs or other domesticated animals were seriously thought to be carriers of Ebola, we would be hearing of massive programs to euthanize such animals in all areas with outbreaks. We've heard that eating 'bush meat' can spread the virus, we've heard that a certain species of fruit bat can carry the virus, but we've heard NOTHING about dogs, cats, cows, etc. carrying the virus.

So what has happened here is a) the government of a first world nation panicked, or b) they know something the rest of us don't know, and why is that?

Either way, it is a disturbing response.

 

[Sonya610]

http://ktla.com/2014/10/08/possible...-at-inglewood-hospital-after-arriving-at-lax/

Well this is in my neck of the woods. I don't understand why this person is in the hospital if he did not have any symptoms but that's today's reporting for you.....

Lordy, I saw a screen cap from a police display earlier (on Reddit) saying a possible Ebola patient was taken to Centinela Hospital.

I thought it was a troll post.

Well now that the person is HERE he should absolutely get five star treatment.

Is anyone else starting to get really peeved off?

 

[LaborDayRN]

My apologies if this has already been posted. This patient has since tested negative but I just wanted to give a shout out to a So. Cal. hospital that handled this appropriately!

A patient traveling from Liberia was brought to the hospital via ambulance from LAX Tuesday night with Ebola-like symptoms.

“Ambulance personnel alerted the hospital prior to arrival so upon entry to the hospital campus, all CDC precautions were fully implemented,” Centinela spokesman Steve Brand said.

Hospital officials said the patient does not appear to have any symptoms of Ebola, which has killed more than 3,400 people worldwide. However, tests were still being conducted.

The hospital did not take new patients for two hours overnight, but said it was fully functioning Wednesday.

“The patient will remain fully isolated in the hospital’s ER for continued evaluation and all appropriate testing will be conducted in consultation with the CDC,” Brand added.