Found Deceased Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #3

[Sarahlou]

Any chance of a translation?

We can't post the full articles due to copyright.
Here's part of it:

The 32-year-old women living in Scotland also have a third twin sister, Edit, which is why they are remembered well in their native village, Tornyospálca, from which they have moved for a long time.

"I don't want to go into it in depth, I'll just say that maybe the circumstances at home weren't right... The twins graduated from high school in Namény, the third daughter, Edit, met her husband there, and they live somewhere in Bereg. Heni and Eliza first moved to Budapest with their mother when their parents divorced, and two or three years later they went abroad," local aunt Marika told SZON .

 

[ShastaDaisy]

Family Background:Skóciában eltűnt magyar ikrek: a tetoválásáról azonosíthatták a rendőrök az egyik nő holttestét | szmo.hu

Unfortunately my phone is not translating this article for me but thank you for the additional information

 

[bmacmillan1]

We can't post the full articles due to copyright.
Here's part of it:

The 32-year-old women living in Scotland also have a third twin sister, Edit, which is why they are remembered well in their native village, Tornyospálca, from which they have moved for a long time.

"I don't want to go into it in depth, I'll just say that maybe the circumstances at home weren't right... The twins graduated from high school in Namény, the third daughter, Edit, met her husband there, and they live somewhere in Bereg. Heni and Eliza first moved to Budapest with their mother when their parents divorced, and two or three years later they went abroad," local aunt Marika told SZON .

Thank you, a bit more on their backgrounds now.

 

[Cherwell]

Interesting fact from the article - Henrietta was identified by a tattoo of an angel, it says on her hand.

The auto-translation is a bit muddled as it tends to mix up personal pronouns (he/she etc). Must be a characteristic of the Hungarian language.

 

[Cherwell]

A photo here of the father holding two photos of the twins that we haven't seen before.

https://www.szon.hu/helyi-kozelet/2025/02/tornyospalcai-ikerpar-eltunt-holttest

 

[Doric Loon]

I think the social aspect of their lives is somewhat muddled and confusing. It was reported they kept themselves to themselves and that they were homebodies. Police said they were leading normal lives and socialising as did their brother. Whether the brother actually knows or was just repeating what he'd been told is another matter. The Hungarian reporter said the local Hungarian community didn't know them. Not sure if anything at all has been said whether or not they had separate circles of friends. I know its also been said they did most things together.

I took from that, that they did socialise just not out every night, just special occasions, like
Christmas nights out or birthdays but not much more than that. Remember the family have not seen their lives in Scotland, so pure speculation on their part whether the family were told or not. They will probably only know for sure the girls that left to goto the UK many years ago, may not know anything about them in current times. Most parents don’t if I’m honest, let alone ones that are several countries away. It is worth pointing out what the other triplet said, about rarely visiting the family herself, despite being in the same country.

 

[L'Eau_d'Hiver]

Article with their father, apparently he hadn't had any contact with them for 12 years :
Édesapjuk szemére nem jön álom, mindenét odaadná, hogy az ikreket élve lássa

 

[erikar]

Van esély a fordításra?

Google Chrome.

 

[Grouse]

Google Chrome.

I have a link to http://translate.google.co.uk/ on my bookmarks toolbar for translating short phrases. For whole pages, like the Hungarian sites linked above, my browser (firefox) automatically asks me if I want it translated to English, works reasonably well.

The auto-translation is a bit muddled as it tends to mix up personal pronouns (he/she etc). Must be a characteristic of the Hungarian language.

RSBM

Yes, it was pointed out to me on one of the earlier threads that Hungarian makes use of gender neutral pronouns, so the translation is possibly correct.

 

[Gottlieb]

Interesting fact from the article - Henrietta was identified by a tattoo of an angel, it says on her hand.

The auto-translation is a bit muddled as it tends to mix up personal pronouns (he/she etc). Must be a characteristic of the Hungarian language.

There are no gender specific pronouns in the Hungarian language, we do not use gender.
I will dump all my answers to some of the previous questions/theories into this post:
1) lots of Hungarians work abroad (myself included), it's always for money. Living in Hungary is hopeless
2) yes, we all send money home. That's why we moved abroad, to be able to do that
3) visiting the Hungarian store isn't indicative at all. I live abroad since 2003, and I'm very much integrated, but I still like Hungarian food and some ingredients are only found in these stores
4) the twins lived in Aberdeen since 8 years. I'm quite sure they mastered the language well enough for their needs
5) I have seen nothing that indicates they had ever studied at any university
6) you cannot visit your family "frequently" if you are working a fulltime job. You have 20-25 days holiday a year, that's all. It isn't indicative of having bad or no relationships with the family. I normally visit my family twice a year. I wish I could go home more often, but working fulltime is what it is.
7) houses are not expensive in the Hungarian countryside. For 50-60k you can buy a very nice house. Budapest is on a whole other level though, 150k would get you a one bedroom apartement in some not so nice neighbourhood
8) I don't want to be a conspiraton theorist but I don't see a reason for a double suicide. Nobody kills himself just because he can't send enough money home. They lived together, so they could put aside more money than somebody who has to earn the living costs alone. I don't think there were more serious financial problems than any of us faces in this economy

I am so sad for them and for their family, I so hoped it will turn out otherwise

 

[Grouse]

There are no gender specific pronouns in the Hungarian language, we do not use gender.
I will dump all my answers to some of the previous questions/theories into this post:
1) lots of Hungarians work abroad (myself included), it's always for money. Living in Hungary is hopeless
2) yes, we all send money home. That's why we moved abroad, to be able to do that
3) visiting the Hungarian store isn't indicative at all. I live abroad since 2003, and I'm very much integrated, but I still like Hungarian food and some ingredients are only found in these stores
4) the twins lived in Aberdeen since 8 years. I'm quite sure they mastered the language well enough for their needs
5) I have seen nothing that indicates they had ever studied at any university
6) you cannot visit your family "frequently" if you are working a fulltime job. You have 20-25 days holiday a year, that's all. It isn't indicative of having bad or no relationships with the family. I normally visit my family twice a year. I wish I could go home more often, but working fulltime is what it is.
7) houses are not expensive in the Hungarian countryside. For 50-60k you can buy a very nice house. Budapest is on a whole other level though, 150k would get you a one bedroom apartement in some not so nice neighbourhood
8) I don't want to be a conspiraton theorist but I don't see a reason for a double suicide. Nobody kills himself just because he can't send enough money home. They lived together, so they could put aside more money than somebody who has to earn the living costs alone. I don't think there were more serious financial problems than any of us faces in this economy

I am so sad for them and for their family, I so hoped it will turn out otherwise

Thanks for that, interesting to get your take as a Hungarian working abroad.

I think regarding point 8) financial problems seems to be a theory that has gained some traction in this thread but I think there could be many reasons why they would do it, sadly. I doubt we will ever find out why and I'm not sure that it belongs in the public domain anyway.

 

[Gottlieb]

Thanks for that, interesting to get your take as a Hungarian working abroad.

I think regarding point 8) financial problems seems to be a theory that has gained some traction in this thread but I think there could be many reasons why they would do it, sadly. I doubt we will ever find out why and I'm not sure that it belongs in the public domain anyway.

I honestly don't believe they would kill themselves because of financial problems. Even in low wage jobs you earn so much more than in Hungary, and the cost of living is about the same.
Some people fail to integrate and move back home. It happens after a few months or even a year. I think after 8 years of living in a city with stable fulltime jobs it doesn't happen anymore.
But if (IF) it happens, you just move home. You don't kill yourself and your sister.
I find the financial strain theory very unlikely and uncharacteristic.

 

[Dotta]

From Hungarian Press:
(Translated by Google)

"The father of the Huszti twins spoke out after Scottish police found a body.

'For weeks I hoped that they would be found safe and sound,
or at least that they would give me news of themselves,
but deep down, I knew something had happened to them',
István Huszti, father of Eliza Huszti and Henrietta Huszti said.

The man believes his daughters did not commit suicide,
and he is also certain that they were not the ones who sent text messages to their landlord at the time of their disappearance."

https://www.szon.hu/helyi-kozelet/2025/02/tornyospalcai-ikerpar-eltunt-holttest

Megszólalt a Huszti ikrek apja, miután a skót rendőrök holttestet találtak | 24.hu

A rendőrség még nem azonosította a holttesteket, de értesítette a szülőket.

24.hu

 

[Sjöberg]

The auto-translation is a bit muddled as it tends to mix up personal pronouns (he/she etc). Must be a characteristic of the Hungarian language.

It is indeed a surprising characteristic of the English language that it for some reason uses different pronouns depending on the sex/gender of the person <modsnip>

I hope the family gets some answers and support. I'm really glad the sisters were found and can be properly buried.

 

[L'Eau_d'Hiver]

Even in low wage jobs you earn so much more than in Hungary, and the cost of living is about the same.

I wouldn't say the cost of living in Hungary is about the same than in Scotland.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

The police have said that they did have a social life.

I think people have got the impression that they didn't because not many have spoken to the media about them. It sounds as though few were willing to speak to the Hungarian tabloid reporter, and probably not to any others that were sniffing around.

I'd have thought it stranger if they didn't buy Hungarian spices!

Define social life? Not you personally, us in general.

To some, a social life is partying until all hours, with lots of friends, catching up for drinks every weekend with them etc. You could also argue that a social life could be the two of them going out for dinner with only each other, catching a movie together or alone, shopping in a mall/shopping centre together etc. Activities in the world, but not necessarily what I'd call social. Does social have to involve anyone else?

Is their father still living?
I have only seen references to the sister Edit, the brother Josef and their mother.

Has anyone seen anything that describes their childhood or upbringing or what made them choose Scotland and Aberdeen in particular?

Yes, there was 1 mention of him in an article.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

On the topic of money and minimum wage jobs....

They were never going to make tons of money in the roles they were in, but they weren't necessarily on the minimum wage either. I have no idea if it's the same in Scotland, but here in Australia you generally get paid about $4 extra (conservative amount) per hour for cleaning jobs over hospitality and retail type roles. Then there's extra again for working outside of reasonable hours, which, to be fair, could also apply to hospitality and retail roles (weekends, very early starts, night time etc). Let's say the working week is 38 hours (during regular business hours), that's $152 extra per week, over your retail/hospitality role.

I did try and work out the exact figures, but I don't have the brain power right now, so don't shoot me if I got them wrong. My point was that cleaning, if you're willing to do it, may be more lucrative than first thought, and not minimum wage.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

So we have learnt that family dynamics weren't the greatest. Parents divorced 12 years ago, when the triplets were 20. The mother (a former postal worker) then moved to Budapest, and Henrietta & Eliza went with her. It's not clear if Edit did too, or the brother who's name I have forgotten. This is when they seem to have cut ties with their father, who also hasn't spoken to his son in that time. I don't think there was mention of whether Edit spoke with him at all. By that age, the triplets were old enough to be aware of things within the family dynamic. About 5 years later they left for Scotland, or 2-3 years according to someone back home in one of the articles. I wonder if there was one catastrophic thing that seems to have broken up the family, or a series of events? It seems to be a divorce of a family and not just 2 parents.

@Gottlieb can you please advise us what life would like for a single woman in her 50's or 60's in Budapest? (That is if in fact their mother was not partnered up again, and is still living there) Is it viable to be able to live alone or would the cost be too great? I don't think we know where Edit or the brother lived in relation to their mother, do we? This would give us a better picture of where finances/sending money home may play into things.

 

[davidt]

On the topic of money and minimum wage jobs....

They were never going to make tons of money in the roles they were in, but they weren't necessarily on the minimum wage either. I have no idea if it's the same in Scotland, but here in Australia you generally get paid about $4 extra (conservative amount) per hour for cleaning jobs over hospitality and retail type roles. Then there's extra again for working outside of reasonable hours, which, to be fair, could also apply to hospitality and retail roles (weekends, very early starts, night time etc). Let's say the working week is 38 hours (during regular business hours), that's $152 extra per week, over your retail/hospitality role.

I did try and work out the exact figures, but I don't have the brain power right now, so don't shoot me if I got them wrong. My point was that cleaning, if you're willing to do it, may be more lucrative than first thought, and not minimum wage.

We can't know for sure but in the UK cleaning and retail jobs tend to be right at the bottom of the pay scale. Obviously there can be exceptions. Also here we also often have "zero hours contracts" for such jobs or they may be part time. Zero hours contracts are contracts where the employee has no guaranteed working hours at all. It will just depend on whether or not they are required at any particular time. Of course they may both have been on fixed full time hours.

 

[Loyaloil]

I wouldn't say the cost of living in Hungary is about the same than in Scotland.

I would agree it is. I went there for a weekend and it isn’t cheap!