UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

[Izzylizzy]

Huszti - a common last name in Aberdeen? I just saw of another Hungarian immigrant with the same last name. Thought maybe a relative and part of why they were familiar with the area

They moved to Scotland when they were in their early or mid 20s..so maybe they did have relatives there.
I forget if they were there 7 or 10 yrs.
imo:
They appear older and more mature then 32 years old.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

There was quite significant police activity in Aberdeen in early December regarding county lines drugs gangs. A lot of this focussed on individuals who were cuckooed (where individuals prey on vulnerable individuals, primarily to use their flats for drug dealing). Often this targets people within the community who are drug users or have a learning disability/vulnerable in some way. However lone females are often ‘groomed’ too. Is it plausible that the ladies were targeted and their flat ended up being used for dealing? They wanted to get away so fled in the middle of the night? Could that have been what the landlord found in the flat that caused her to contact police right away and for them to respond so quickly??

Source to the December raids:

Aberdeen county lines gangs targeted with weapons and drugs seized in major police crackdown

Since June, six groups involved in county lines drugs and organised crime in Aberdeen have been targeted by police in a joint operation with the Met Police in London.

www.aberdeenlive.news

This is an interesting theory. Despite being 32, they could be seen as possibly vulnerable. No relatives in the country, maybe minimal friends? Kept mostly to themselves perhaps. We don't know how well they spoke and understood English either. We also don't know their intelligence level. That's not a dig at them, it's just a fact that not everyone is highly intelligent and we know nothing of their intellectual abilities. Maybe they just didn't have any kind of "street smarts" or were too trusting? Perhaps they had no intention of leaving their flat by the Tuesday (they certainly made no reference to it in the phone call to their mother on the Saturday prior) and a mysterious letter was written and sent by others claiming to be them. Maybe the main point of contact between the women and the land lady was usually via the phone left in the flat, so therefore no response? However, this wouldn't make sense if a drug gang wanted to take over the flat, they certainly wouldn't want anyone to think anything was amiss.

If they (or one of them) slipped and fell into the river, would there not be some forensic evidence of this?
Marks in the mud, or riverbank etc.?

The police seem to be convinced they've drowned, but aren't offering any support or evidence for this belief.
I know it's likely....but the police need to work on solid evidence, not probability.

The fact that it was low tide around the time of their disappearance might hide any evidence of shoe or skid marks, or signs of trying to get hold of the edge once the waters rose. My thoughts go to what happens next, if they did indeed end up in the water. Regardless of accidental or on purpose, they would then float down the river, under the bridge we've seen in lots of still pics and out to sea I imagine? At what point would the cold water & freezing air take the life from you? Wouldn't your body naturally fight it, if it was intentional on their part? I have no idea on the mechanics of death by drowning, (accidental or otherwise) but I'm wondering how soon before they are fully submerged? What about lose items like scarves or the bag? Would it be possible to see anything floating down the river in any CCTV footage around that time? Is the harbour a busy area, with things happening after hours, or strictly in business hours/light?

As for what the woman are wearing, my thoughts are that their hair/heads look very similar - maybe a bun or tied up? It doesn't look like they're wearing hats to me. Each has a scarf wrapped around their neck, against the cold. Both have appropriate coats, one longer than the other. The trench coat appears to be belted around the waist. Both appear to be wearing long, dark pants, jeans maybe? The one closest to the building looks to have flat soled ankle boots on, the other is harder to tell. I don't see heels though, maybe something like a patent leather brogue, with the tiniest flash of white socks visible? (Or maybe just shine from lights) The one in the trench coat appears to have her left hand in a pocket, her right is hard to tell. I don't think she's holding anything, I feel it's just that she's retracted her hand against the cold, and it's the lining of her coat, captured at just the right time/angle to see right up into it. The other sister seems to have her right hand in a pocket, and her left doesn't seem visible to me. I would guess it's swinging behind her. The cross body bag she's wearing appears dark, possibly black. Not huge, enough to hold a phone, purse, keys and other bits and pieces us women tend to carry around with them.

 

[Izzylizzy]

thinking of the snow, did they find their footprints? If they did go into the water how far in would they need to go before it got deep? I just can't imagine this happening. JMO

LE had their dogs in the area but I never heard anything more about it then that.
The dogs would have their scent from belongings in their apartment.
I don't know if snow/ice affects the dogs tracking abilities.

 

[Izzylizzy]

There was quite significant police activity in Aberdeen in early December regarding county lines drugs gangs. A lot of this focussed on individuals who were cuckooed (where individuals prey on vulnerable individuals, primarily to use their flats for drug dealing). Often this targets people within the community who are drug users or have a learning disability/vulnerable in some way. However lone females are often ‘groomed’ too. Is it plausible that the ladies were targeted and their flat ended up being used for dealing? They wanted to get away so fled in the middle of the night? Could that have been what the landlord found in the flat that caused her to contact police right away and for them to respond so quickly??

Source to the December raids:

Aberdeen county lines gangs targeted with weapons and drugs seized in major police crackdown

Since June, six groups involved in county lines drugs and organised crime in Aberdeen have been targeted by police in a joint operation with the Met Police in London.

www.aberdeenlive.news

Drugs coming into Aberdeen Harbour or the Abdereen Boat Club?

 

[Izzylizzy]

BBC has a video of their brother Jozef speaking about them.
That they were saving to buy a house raises a little red flag since reading about Aberdeen's recent drug problems/bust.
Curious if this "saving" was a recent discussion with family or whoever knew about it?

IMO: I'm doubting if the triplets are only 32.

Huszti sisters: Family unaware missing women had ended tenancy

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti - part of a set of triplets - disappeared in Aberdeen more than a week ago.

www.bbc.com

 

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[Izzylizzy]

This is an interesting theory. Despite being 32, they could be seen as possibly vulnerable. No relatives in the country, maybe minimal friends? Kept mostly to themselves perhaps. We don't know how well they spoke and understood English either. We also don't know their intelligence level. That's not a dig at them, it's just a fact that not everyone is highly intelligent and we know nothing of their intellectual abilities. Maybe they just didn't have any kind of "street smarts" or were too trusting? Perhaps they had no intention of leaving their flat by the Tuesday (they certainly made no reference to it in the phone call to their mother on the Saturday prior) and a mysterious letter was written and sent by others claiming to be them. Maybe the main point of contact between the women and the land lady was usually via the phone left in the flat, so therefore no response? However, this wouldn't make sense if a drug gang wanted to take over the flat, they certainly wouldn't want anyone to think anything was amiss.



The fact that it was low tide around the time of their disappearance might hide any evidence of shoe or skid marks, or signs of trying to get hold of the edge once the waters rose. My thoughts go to what happens next, if they did indeed end up in the water. Regardless of accidental or on purpose, they would then float down the river, under the bridge we've seen in lots of still pics and out to sea I imagine? At what point would the cold water & freezing air take the life from you? Wouldn't your body naturally fight it, if it was intentional on their part? I have no idea on the mechanics of death by drowning, (accidental or otherwise) but I'm wondering how soon before they are fully submerged? What about lose items like scarves or the bag? Would it be possible to see anything floating down the river in any CCTV footage around that time? Is the harbour a busy area, with things happening after hours, or strictly in business hours/light?

As for what the woman are wearing, my thoughts are that their hair/heads look very similar - maybe a bun or tied up? It doesn't look like they're wearing hats to me. Each has a scarf wrapped around their neck, against the cold. Both have appropriate coats, one longer than the other. The trench coat appears to be belted around the waist. Both appear to be wearing long, dark pants, jeans maybe? The one closest to the building looks to have flat soled ankle boots on, the other is harder to tell. I don't see heels though, maybe something like a patent leather brogue, with the tiniest flash of white socks visible? (Or maybe just shine from lights) The one in the trench coat appears to have her left hand in a pocket, her right is hard to tell. I don't think she's holding anything, I feel it's just that she's retracted her hand against the cold, and it's the lining of her coat, captured at just the right time/angle to see right up into it. The other sister seems to have her right hand in a pocket, and her left doesn't seem visible to me. I would guess it's swinging behind her. The cross body bag she's wearing appears dark, possibly black. Not huge, enough to hold a phone, purse, keys and other bits and pieces us women tend to carry around with them.

Good post and lots to ponder.
Like what was in the shoulder bag the one sister was carrying heading down to the Aberdeen Boat Club?

 

[Kemug]

I am very interested in the "materials" they left in their home. I don't think it would be material for sewing, as that would not be plural. I don't think drugmaking stuff would be referred to as materials, but as equipment - or paraphernalia. In fact "bombmaking materials" is the only phrase that gels for me. But it seems unlikely IMO.

 

[Doric Loon]

thinking of the snow, did they find their footprints? If they did go into the water how far in would they need to go before it got deep? I just can't imagine this happening. JMO

It was AFAIK two days later they started searching the banks of the Dee.

I am very interested in the "materials" they left in their home. I don't think it would be material for sewing, as that would not be plural. I don't think drugmaking stuff would be referred to as materials, but as equipment - or paraphernalia. InIn fact "bombmaking materials" is the only phrase that gels for me. But it seems unlikely IMO.

That would lead to a criminal investigation, which this is not.

 

[CityKid]

This article has pictures of what (I think*) are the three triplets together.
*I think, because the third sister looks very different from the missing women. Has it been ascertained that there are four children in the family, the triplets and their brother?

MSN

 

[Izzylizzy]

"After they crossed the bridge the sisters turned right onto a footpath, next to the River Dee, and headed in the direction of Aberdeen Boat Club."

Aberdeen Boat Club's FB

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Eliza and Henrietta Huszti: Search for sisters widens to coast

 

[Izzylizzy]

One of the Huszti sisters with the third triple, Edit (right)

Triplet had 'premonition' about her sisters before they vanished in Aberdeen

Police Scotland have ruled out a report in Hungary that Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were out on the town before they disappeared... while friends of their sister Edit say she knew 'something bad' had happened

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk

 

[Izzylizzy]

I am very interested in the "materials" they left in their home. I don't think it would be material for sewing, as that would not be plural. I don't think drugmaking stuff would be referred to as materials, but as equipment - or paraphernalia. In fact "bombmaking materials" is the only phrase that gels for me. But it seems unlikely IMO.

Plastics used for illegal drug packaging is referred to as "drug packaging materials".

Interesting read how forensic testing plastics leads to country/origin of drugs.

Tracing the Source of Illicit Drugs Through Plastic Packaging—A Database

Abstract. Common plastic drug packaging material available in Australia and in Asia was analyzed using a standard protocol including optical examination, UV-visible and Fourier transform infrared spectrometry. The aims were to determine whether there are significant differences between different...

asmedigitalcollection.asme.org

 

[Kemug]

So their triplet/sister had a premonition that "something bad" had happened to them. I would speculate that when she last spoke to them, when they had already made plans to leave, her spidey sense picked up that some something wasn't quite right. Ie something was slightly different in their speech patterns, etc.

 

[Sillybilly]

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