Emotional Toll

[WhyaDuck?]

That sounds like a great course. I wish you taught in the university I attend.

What a lovely compliment, JE. Thank you.

 

[Jacie Estes]

The last ten or so posts were just what I needed today. Zahra has touched us all deeply and we all want justice for her. I feel so discouraged sometimes, reading here today made me feel so much better. Thanks WS'ers! Group hug to you all.

What happened to Zahra is almost beyond comprehension. I remind myself that those of us who believe that children must not be killed/dismembered are the ones who have a responsibility to carry her name and story. That helps me; knowing that by remembering and speaking up for her, we honor her.

 

[Jacie Estes]

What a lovely compliment, JE. Thank you.

You are welcome. I am an American Indian Studies major w/a minor in writing. I love how myth and ritual are carried in a culture/community and have relevance to this day. I have a Non-Western Religions class this semester and we are studying/watching Joseph Cambell's lectures right now. Victor Turner is also a favorite to me. take care

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm beyond frustrated.

 

[Jacie Estes]

I'm beyond frustrated.

Have you seen the YouTube video 'Your going to HELL Adam & Elisa Baker!'?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Have you seen the YouTube video 'Your going to HELL Adam & Elisa Baker!'?

Okay, that actually DOES make me feel alittle bit better.

 

[Flakes]

Have you seen the YouTube video 'Your going to HELL Adam & Elisa Baker!'?

Sorry, but I find the kind of lynch mob mentality in that video and it's written intro counterproductive, vulgar and really offensive. Haven't people with those attitudes got any regard for the law and its process? Don't we require evidence before labeling people guilty of murder, and are we really the ones who judge who goes to Hell or Heaven?

 

[tlcya]

Sometimes people need to blow off steam. This is the thread for it. Sometimes, even the best hearted people feel ugly feelings. I choose not to view it, but I don't judge those who needed, during a moments frustration, to indulge that through the safety of a video link.

 

[Flakes]

Sometimes people need to blow off steam. This is the thread for it. Sometimes, even the best hearted people feel ugly feelings. I choose not to view it, but I don't judge those who needed, during a moments frustration, to indulge that through the safety of a video link.

Yes, tlcox, in a barbaric case like this it is frustrating.

I need to say I was referring to the people who made the video and posted it on You Tube with the threatening comment to AB written below it. I was making no reference to the people on here who clicked to view it, or Jacie for posting it. Everyone has the right to post how they reacted to that horrible video, including those of us who are offended by that kind of approach.

One of the most upsetting things I've faced in this whole affair was the first few weeks when I was reading up the case in the Charlotte Observer. I was astonished at the attitudes of so many of the people who posted blood-thirsty, vigilante comments there. I was also a bit taken aback by the extreme religious overtones of condemnation by many of the posters. That's why I stopped reading all those newspaper comments and came here to WS, as I knew people here would have an appreciation of evidence and justice through legal means, rather than focusing on the power in their own hands to deal out their own kind of justice. To that end I've been very impressed by the posters here

 

[Jacie Estes]

Yes, tlcox, in a barbaric case like this it is frustrating.

I need to say I was referring to the people who made the video and posted it on You Tube with the threatening comment to AB written below it. I was making no reference to the people on here who clicked to view it, or Jacie for posting it. Everyone has the right to post how they reacted to that horrible video, including those of us who are offended by that kind of approach.

One of the most upsetting things I've faced in this whole affair was the first few weeks when I was reading up the case in the Charlotte Observer. I was astonished at the attitudes of so many of the people who posted blood-thirsty, vigilante comments there. I was also a bit taken aback by the extreme religious overtones of condemnation by many of the posters. That's why I stopped reading all those newspaper comments and came here to WS, as I knew people here would have an appreciation of evidence and justice through legal means, rather than focusing on the power in their own hands to deal out their own kind of justice. To that end I've been very impressed by the posters here

I understand your thought; I don't like the mob mentality but I think the pictures of the cut outs with the faces in them are funny. My husband and I have one of us where he is in a cowboy image and I'm in a saloon dancer image. We call it our cowboys and indians pic. [we're both Native]

One thing about North Carolina; I have some relatives there and my Dad was treated at a Veterans hospital in Winston-Salem, NC. . There is a strong religious presence there, one I wasn't accustomed to but my uncle is a minister and so it works for him.

 

[Oriah]

Bumping for the emotional support aspect of those who are hurting for justice for Zahra tonight.

Got to thinking about it (again) and then thought about my choice in user/member names.

I'm ok with Oriah, Mountain Dreamer but not sure I can live up to it. Zahra, you are it. The Invitation.

And I want you to know so badly, that we all here would have gotten up in the morning to feed you- no matter what.
We still will. Food for the soul is important.

Peace,
Oriah

 

[FaerieB]

I just finished reading the story about Hickory and the Kiwanis Club dedicating, in Zahra's name, new playground equipment that will be accessible by all children, and it brought me to tears all over again.

This little girl is such a shining star, and has touched so many lives that I almost feel guilty for only knowing her though her disappearance and death. IYKWIM.

RIP precious child. Your legacy continues to grow.

 

[NoeticSoul]

I've not much to say (that hasn't already been said and felt).. just came to give hugs :grouphug:

..and to remind..

"Doubts are the ants in the pants of faith. They keep it awake and moving." F. Buechner

Regardless of the MANY doubts that I have about how this case was 'handled'--I still have faith that there will be justice for sweet Zahra.

 

[Flakes]

Regarding the way things have been handled, I wonder ... if the region lacked experts in any necessary fields were they permitted to "import" such experts from other states to make up for the shortfall, or are they expected to simply make do with what they have? I'm not insinuating anyone involved was particularly incapable, I'm just wondering since I gather NC is in the heart of the bible belt, and is not exactly accustomed to such horrendous crimes as this. I simply can't comprehend what would possess any person to do the things we suspect they did to poor Zahra, and my mind runs wild with sinister possibilities for the motivations behind it, and I hope if things were so corrupt in that circle (I suspect it was more than one person involved either directly or indirectly) that the legal teams were tough enough to face up to this head on.

 

[Oriah]

I've not much to say (that hasn't already been said and felt).. just came to give hugs :grouphug:

..and to remind..

"Doubts are the ants in the pants of faith. They keep it awake and moving." F. Buechner

Regardless of the MANY doubts that I have about how this case was 'handled'--I still have faith that there will be justice for sweet Zahra.

Hugs back at you, Noetic.

Zahra's entire case (from the horror of, to the handling of) has made me re-think possibilities everywhere. And just when I arrogantly thought I'd seen it all.
(Note to self: Oriah, you have not even come close to seeing it all.
Note to soul of self: there are children on this earth and in heaven that have. Listen to them harder.)

I, too, still have faith. Despite.

Peace, sweet child. I'm glad the playground movement is working.

 

[tlcya]

still trying to be a patient person. Still struggling with it some days moreso than others.

 

[NoeticSoul]

Hugs back at you, Noetic.

Zahra's entire case (from the horror of, to the handling of) has made me re-think possibilities everywhere. And just when I arrogantly thought I'd seen it all.
(Note to self: Oriah, you have not even come close to seeing it all.
Note to soul of self: there are children on this earth and in heaven that have. Listen to them harder.)

I, too, still have faith. Despite.

Peace, sweet child. I'm glad the playground movement is working.

Thank you Oriah. May I borrow your "Note to Self AND Soul Self"? I thought I had seen/done/experienced/emotionally conquered it 'all' too... and need to staple those reminders to my forehead. :hug:

Swift & Merciless justice for Zahra!

 

[LCoastMom]

Zahra I think of you everyday. I don't stop by here daily because it frustrates me to know so little has happened on the legal front, but I carry thoughts of you in my heart wherever I go.

Blessings to all who are doing it for Zahra!

 

[Oriah]

Thank you Oriah. May I borrow your "Note to Self AND Soul Self"? I thought I had seen/done/experienced/emotionally conquered it 'all' too... and need to staple those reminders to my forehead. :hug:

Swift & Merciless justice for Zahra!

Borrow away, my friend! I'm afraid my stapler has broken from overusage, but I'm gonna replace it today.
:blowkiss:

 

[tlcya]

Thinking of our girl and rummaging through images of sweet Zahra.

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