Events Post-911 Calls 7/15 to Arrest 7/16

[AZlawyer]

FWIW...Yuri's call pattern w/ George, Cindy & Casey 7/16...and some speculation regarding the events/subject of the calls. IIRC, we have Yuri contacting George about coming to get the Pontiac via phone call.

7/16/2008 10:18 AM Cindy called Yuri 3 mins Speculate this may have had something to do with going down to talk w/ Brittany that morning.

7/16/2008 11:30 AM Yuri called Casey 1.3 mins to voicemail Speculate this was to confirm Casey's employment info as Yuri visited w/ Universal and found no record of Casey currently employed there.

7/16/2008 11:30 AM Casey called (321)###-9765 5 mins Note**: Speculate this is one of the LEO/detectives #'s :detective: and Casey provided the "Tom Manley" supervisor BS, etc.

7/16/2008 11:44 AM Yuri called Casey 0.1 mins to voicemail Speculate this was follow-up from the dead-end @ Universal for current employment records.

7/16/2008 11:54 AM Yuri called George 2 mins Speculate this is the call during which Yuri told George Casey would likely be arrested, and seems it may've been the call they may have discussed picking up the car.

7/16/2008 12:48 PM Cindy called Yuri 4 mins Speculate this was follow-up Q's from Cindy since Sgt. Allen had just picked Casey up to goto Universal. W/o Yuri's records we don't know if they spoke or it went to vmail.

7/16/2008 1:45 PM Cindy called Yuri 2 mins Speculate this was more Q's from Cindy. IIRC, Yuri commented during some interviews about Cindy calling him several times...perhaps this was one of those calls.

7/16/2008 2:05 PM Cindy called Yuri 5 mins Speculate this was yet another set of Q's from Cindy per above.​

**This (321)###-9765 number was called only 2x by Casey's phone. The first was @ 12:02 AM as the 2nd number called (1st was to Amy) when Casey's phone was brought back to Hopespring by LE. This number was called several times by Tony's cell 7/15-7/16PM and I am using the first call to this number from Tony @ 7/15 10:28PM as the indication that LE had arrived @ Tony's apt. and picked up the phone <10:28PM.

I did this rather quickly...so, wouldn't be surprised to find some oversights/errors on my part. Without the home phone records 7/15-7/16 it is difficult to get a complete picture...

Bond, FYI, the 321-***-9765 number shows up in Casey's BILLING records (as opposed to the cell tower records) as Yuri's regular cell number instead. Maybe just an issue of how the calls were routed some of the time? But in any event, this number appears to connect to Yuri's cell.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Bond, FYI, the 321-***-9765 number shows up in Casey's BILLING records (as opposed to the cell tower records) as Yuri's regular cell number instead. Maybe just an issue of how the calls were routed some of the time? But in any event, this number appears to connect to Yuri's cell.

Thanks, AZ.

I'm wondering :waitasec: Perhaps OCSO assigns a cell to the lead of a case in addition to their own personal #.

For example, I'm assuming Sgt. Hosey had the lead on the case before Yuri got involved. And we know Tony called the (321)###-9765 number 3 times before midnight...before Yuri was contacted by Sgt. Hosey.

Calls from Tony's cell to this #:

7/15/2008 10:28:20 PM
7/15/2008 10:33:25 PM
7/15/2008 11:09:20 PM​

...and then there's the 12:02 AM call from Casey's phone to this number when it returned to Hopespring.

Yuri was reportedly contacted by Sgt. Hosey @ 00:45 AM 7/16, IIRC.

Just speculating...but if a phone is assigned to the case, then, it would be passed to whomever has the lead to simplify communications as things develop and more information starts coming in from a variety of sources. So...for example...Sgt. Hosey would've passed this one to Yuri in the process of his getting to Hopespring ~04:00 AM 7/16.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I think George was very likely not at home when Cindy called his cell at 11:36 am on the 16th. George's cell records show he checked his messages at 11:38 am (presumably that was Cindy's call) and then immediately (still 11:38 am) called the Anthony home phone for 2 minutes. So I assume he was not at home at that time. And probably Cindy wasn't home either, or he would just have called her back on her cell. :waitasec: Which suggests he was calling Casey or Lee at the house in response to something Cindy said in her message.

George's Epass records show he was on the road just before noon on the 16th, taking the route that I believe we previously identified was his route to his brand-new job.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2907723&postcount=16

Thanks, again, AZ. So...need only to get a Google Maps driving time from Hopespring to the Beline toll and back up from 11:52 AM to get a reasonable estimate for when George left that morning...assuming there were no detours, etc. Looks like it'd be pretty close to 11:36 AM as I believe you suggest.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Thanks, again, AZ. So...need only to get a Google Maps driving time from Hopespring to the Beline toll and back up from 11:52 AM to get a reasonable estimate for when George left that morning...assuming there were no detours, etc. Looks like it'd be pretty close to 11:38 AM as I believe you suggest.

I vaguely remember George saying he went to his new place of employment that day to explain there were issues at home. I don't know if he did that to get time off or what. Wish I had a link for this, maybe someone else remembers it too ? I feel sure it was in a LE interview.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I vaguely remember George saying he went to his new place of employment that day to explain there were issues at home. I don't know if he did that to get time off or what. Wish I had a link for this, maybe someone else remembers it too ? I feel sure it was in a LE interview.

Thanks, Search. I have a fragment of a memory of Cindy saying that George had an early (e.g. Noontime before starting a 3PM shift) meeting @ his new job and after all of the chaos of the night, she urged him to go...to get away from things. I was thinking Cindy made this statement @ the bond hearing...but I don't particularly trust my memory, and I'm too lazy to go listen to her bond hearing testimony

 

[darnudes]

Thanks, Search. I have a fragment of a memory of Cindy saying that George had an early (e.g. Noontime before starting a 3PM shift) meeting @ his new job and after all of the chaos of the night, she urged him to go...to get away from things. I was thinking Cindy made this statement @ the bond hearing...but I don't particularly trust my memory, and I'm too lazy to go listen to her bond hearing testimony

lol, fair enough. I went and listened for you

George at the bond hearing stating he left for work as he had an important meeting, Cindy urged him to go and Yuri/one of the detectives called him just before noon to advise they were going to talk to Casey again.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xJfZxuKs3Q&feature=related[/ame]

 

[BondJamesBond]

Bringing the following over from the Computer Forensics thread. Thanks, JWG.

As I was researching the missing persons website visits on KC's laptop computer, I began to piece together what happened to KC's laptop during the final 24 hours before it was turned over to LE.

Lee arrives at Tony's around midnight, leaving around 2:00AM and arriving back at his parents around 2:25AM (evidence pages 1442 - 1445). While there he sees KC's laptop plugged in and set up on the kitchen counter top. He starts it up but gets the "blue screen of death" indicating the computer was improperly shutdown and data has been lost (page 1478). Lee also states later that, as he is investigating the situation with Caylee after bringing KC's computer back to life, he notices that in KC's Yahoo email account all emails prior to June 15 were deleted (page 1479).

I personally noticed that the internet history before June 27 was deleted, as was July 2 - 9.

Now let's look at the activity...

No activity on July 15 until 8:47 PM, when about 40 seconds worth of AIM activity occurs. My belief is this is when the computer is powered on by Tony, and AIM automatically launches. Nothing happens for 1 1/2 hours.

KC's phone - which is in the possession of Tony, receives texts from Andy F. and Will W., around 9:25. At around 10:05 Tony calls Amy and learns about KC cleaning out her bank account. Tony is probably not emotionally stable at this point.

At 10:15 PM activity resumes. For the next five minutes it looks like there are repeated attempts to log into KC's ATT wireless account, culminating in a visit to the "lost password" page to presumably have a new password sent to her email account. A successful login to Yahoo may have occurred at this time.

Activity resumes again at 10:30 with an attempt to either register with or log into an existing "Lava Life" account. This lasts for about a minute (methinks Tony is looking at the internet history). Attempts are then made to log into Facebook (unsuccessfully).

10:43 PM - a successful attempt to log into myspace is made, although the account is not clear (if I knew the numeric ID for KC I could probably tell). For the next 10 minutes comments and inbox messages are viewed.

10:57 PM - a successful attempt to log into Facebook is made, although the account is not clear. Numerous photos are viewed for the next 3 minutes. Activity stops.

11:15 PM - a return to Facebook with what appears to be a single upload.

11:19 PM - a second attempt to login to the ATT wireless account.

11:23 PM to 11:35 PM - a rapid-fire mixture of myspace and photobucket views. On Photobucket it is images. On myspace it is images and messages.

11:35 PM to 11:50 PM - many, many views of Facebook photos after what appears to be a successful login.

Computer handed over to Lee.

1:40 AM - computer appears to reboot.

2:32 AM - successful login to Yahoo mail. Activity stops at 2:34 (possibly after seeing no email exists).

At 5:09 AM the computer is powered up, but no real activity until 5:18 when the MSN website is brought up. One of the very first things done here is to go to the white pages search off this site and enter "aida" as a first name and "fernandez-gonzalez" as the last name. Lee searches referral sites ussearch.com and reunion.com for ZFG. Activity is very sparse from about 5:25 AM to 1:40 PM.

From 1:40 PM to 2:00 PM or so there are multiple searches on multiple site for combinations of "cheryl davis" "east coast universal" and "battle of the bands" - all of which were figments of KC's imagination. One wonders how he continues believing sis to this day. :waitasec:

After a brief pause of 20 minutes or so, work began on the cayleeismissing, myspace page...Lee's part to understand just what KC was up to.

So...per above...Lee's activity on the CayleeIsMissing site didn't start until later in the day 7/16...a little different than my thinking earlier.

:waitasec: Interesting that the first activity upon returning the laptop to G&C's was to logon to Yahoo mail. While Casey could've given the pwd to Lee, it seems that didn't happen until the laptop was physically in the same location as Casey.

:waitasec: Also, in add'n to the content of the activity per JWG's post above, based on the timing of 5:09-5:25AM...this activity had to be Lee vs. Casey...since Casey and Yuri left after the 04:11AM interview for the ride-around that ended ~<6:48AM.

Pure speculation on my part... but, the last call from Casey's cell before the texting w/ Tony commenced was a call to an unidentified number (407)###-4102 @ 4:57AM. After this call there was a period of 1 hr & 51 mins of inactivity. Perhaps this 4:57AM call coincided with the time Casey & Yuri left the house after their interview was completed (4:57-4:11AM, IIRC, = 46mins...not outta the question). Going w/ this speculation would mean Lee powered up the laptop just a few minutes after LE (i.e. Yuri) left. This might also suggest that Yuri was the last LE presence @ the house 7/16AM.

Finally, JWG indicated the laptop activity was "sparse" after 5:25AM until after Casey was taken to Universal by Allen & Wells. So...it seems reasonable to conclude that Lee was @ G&C's at least until 5:25AM. Why is this relevant? Well...only in an attempt to establish the details of who was w/ Casey @ the house <George left <11:36AM and while Cindy was down the street @ Brittany's. Brittany indicated in the NG interview that Cindy visited her during the morning. And per BeanE's explanation above, Lee had calls w/ Brittany indicating Casey had given him her # as "Julliet"s. Since Casey's first text to Brittany was @ 9:42AM, that suggests to me she had given Lee this story <9:42AM. There was so little time that Casey wasn't on her phone talking to Tony or texting after 6:48AM that it seems possible Casey gave Lee the "Julliet" info before Yuri arrived. It might also seem that the 9:42AM text was prompted by Casey being confronted by Cindy/Lee re: Lee's discovery. Going further out on that limb oke: that would suggest Cindy's motivation to walk down the street came <9:42AM-10:18AM (call to Yuri perhaps advising Julliet=Brittany)...and that Cindy left Brittany's <11:27AM-11:36AM when Brittany texted Casey back and Cindy called George's cell to advise him of her convo respectively.

While Casey MAY have simply taken a shower @ 10:21AM...the 21 minute period of cell inactivity that followed now bothers me a great deal...as that would have coincided w/ the time that it appears Cindy may have walked down the street, and represented Casey's first opportunity to move around the house/garage more freely. :banghead: IF George left <11:36AM...perhaps he could've been napping per BeanE's suggestion, or even in the shower at this time giving Casey free reign to move something outta the Pontiac to the backyard. I'd like to get more details from JWG on the "sparse" computer activity >5AM...and on both computers. Methinks the lack of computer activity is an indication that Lee had gone home for a few hours before returning to work on the CayleeIsMissing site that afternoon.

OK...not allot new here...much simply restating what BeanE, AZ, JWG, etc. have already suggested...adding a little add'l speculation as food for thought. :waitasec:

 

[JWG]

Bringing the following over from the Computer Forensics thread. Thanks, JWG.

So...per above...Lee's activity on the CayleeIsMissing site didn't start until later in the day 7/16...a little different than my thinking earlier.

:waitasec: Interesting that the first activity upon returning the laptop to G&C's was to logon to Yahoo mail. While Casey could've given the pwd to Lee, it seems that didn't happen until the laptop was physically in the same location as Casey.

** SNIP **

Well, let me try to straighten the record out some because when I first posted the material Bond referred to, I screwed it up royally. :slap:

The laptop.

This was left at Tony's after Cindy pulled KC out of the apartment earlier that evening. KC generally used Internet Explorer on this computer, although on July 13 she downloaded and began using Safari as well. It appears that Safari was set as her default browser from that point on.

KC clearly tried covering her tracks because the web page history for Internet Explorer is missing, indicating she deleted the history. However, the cookies remain, as does the recent document history which records which files she has created, opened, and saved. Also, her Safari surfing history was preserved, so either she had not figured out how to delete that or just had not gotten around to it.

So from the above it appears that the last recorded activity on the laptop occurred at 5:42 PM on the 15th. Now, this does not mean that KC did not use the computer after that time - she probably did. The last activity recorded is her login to AIM, so she probably began chatting at that point. She may also have done additional surfing on Internet Explorer and simply erased the history. But it does not appear to me that Tony or Lee or anyone else used the laptop.

The desktop.

The information released regarding the desktop is for the user casey. This user account is the one George and Cindy used. KC used the password-protected owner account, and we have not seen information for that account.

The first use of the desktop found on the 15th is at 8:47 PM, and appears to be a login to an AIM account. After that, nothing seems to happen again until 10:14 PM when Yahoo, ATT Wireless, Lavalife, Facebook, etc. sites are visited. This activity continues until 11:50 PM, when Lee leaves for Tony's.

The activity for the 16th looks as follows:

1:40 AM - very brief visit to Yahoo.
2:32 AM to 2:34 AM - Activity on Yahoo.
5:05 AM to 5:25 AM - Various sites visited, searching for ZFG.
8:01 AM to 10:50 AM - Activity centered around AIM. The purpose seems to be chat only. There are gaps in the activity, but that could be due to chatting. Notable gaps are:

8:33 - 8:51
8:54 - 9:21
9:38 - 10:09
10:14 - 10:25
10:25 - 10:35
10:35 - 10:49
​

The sole blip at 10:25 may be due to someone with the screen name bgamer2000 responding to an earlier chat request. It does not really mean that someone was actively using the computer at that time. The 10:35 activity may be nothing meaningful either.

After 10:49, there is no further activity until 1:38 PM when Lee and Cindy start work on the Caylee is Missing myspace.

HTH

 

[BeanE]

But but but... Cindy said KC was on the desktop fervently and feverishly building the Caylee myspace in the AM. Surely she wasn't mistruthafying?

 

[BondJamesBond]

But but but... Cindy said KC was on the desktop fervently and feverishly building the Caylee myspace in the AM. Surely she wasn't mistruthafying?

BBM

Actually, BeanE, I believe the correct spelling is mithatrufafyin' as would be properly pronounced by one of the most under-rated supersleuths out there...and, of course, the most wunnerful thing 'bout it...is that he's, "the only one".

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlGOORD3h1o[/ame]

 

[BondJamesBond]

Well, let me try to straighten the record out some because when I first posted the material Bond referred to, I screwed it up royally. :slap:

The laptop.

This was left at Tony's after Cindy pulled KC out of the apartment earlier that evening. KC generally used Internet Explorer on this computer, although on July 13 she downloaded and began using Safari as well. It appears that Safari was set as her default browser from that point on.

KC clearly tried covering her tracks because the web page history for Internet Explorer is missing, indicating she deleted the history. However, the cookies remain, as does the recent document history which records which files she has created, opened, and saved. Also, her Safari surfing history was preserved, so either she had not figured out how to delete that or just had not gotten around to it.

So from the above it appears that the last recorded activity on the laptop occurred at 5:42 PM on the 15th. Now, this does not mean that KC did not use the computer after that time - she probably did. The last activity recorded is her login to AIM, so she probably began chatting at that point. She may also have done additional surfing on Internet Explorer and simply erased the history. But it does not appear to me that Tony or Lee or anyone else used the laptop.

The desktop.

The information released regarding the desktop is for the user casey. This user account is the one George and Cindy used. KC used the password-protected owner account, and we have not seen information for that account.

The first use of the desktop found on the 15th is at 8:47 PM, and appears to be a login to an AIM account. After that, nothing seems to happen again until 10:14 PM when Yahoo, ATT Wireless, Lavalife, Facebook, etc. sites are visited. This activity continues until 11:50 PM, when Lee leaves for Tony's.

The activity for the 16th looks as follows:

1:40 AM - very brief visit to Yahoo.
2:32 AM to 2:34 AM - Activity on Yahoo.
5:05 AM to 5:25 AM - Various sites visited, searching for ZFG.
8:01 AM to 10:50 AM - Activity centered around AIM. The purpose seems to be chat only. There are gaps in the activity, but that could be due to chatting. Notable gaps are:

8:33 - 8:51
8:54 - 9:21
9:38 - 10:09
10:14 - 10:25
10:25 - 10:35
10:35 - 10:49
​

The sole blip at 10:25 may be due to someone with the screen name bgamer2000 responding to an earlier chat request. It does not really mean that someone was actively using the computer at that time. The 10:35 activity may be nothing meaningful either.

After 10:49, there is no further activity until 1:38 PM when Lee and Cindy start work on the Caylee is Missing myspace.

HTH

Thanks for clarifying/updating, JWG.

Unless you see something in the AIM usernames involved that would indicate otherwise, I'm inclined to think this activity >8:01 was Casey. She was on a 122min call w/ Tony 7:27-9:29AM. At 8:03AM she let a series of calls from Jamie roll to vmail. Perhaps Casey fired up AIM mid-call to begin multi-tasking while on the phone w/ Tony and began a chat w/ Jamie 'bout Caylee missing that triggered Jamie's call attempts.

Sadly, IMHO, the 10:14AM-10:49AM period you outlined doesn't make me feel better 'bout Casey bein' otherwise occupied. IMHO, it meshes reasonably well w/ the 9:42-10:18AM I outlined above as the potential confrontation w/ Cindy re: Brittany/Juliette....and Cindy subsequently leaving the house to go visit. By 10:41AM Casey was back @ the cell phone texting again.

Could the initial 1:40AM & 2:32AM Yahoo activity have possibly been email deletions? Casey had just finished her handwritten statement and Lee wasn't back from Tony's just yet :waitasec:

BeanE...I'm curious if the late 7/15PM desktop work Lee (w/ some help from Casey to get into the AT&T account) was passed off to Cindy as working to get Caylee back IYKWIM. I 'spect things all kinda ran together @ some point.

Is there any other info to suggest Lee was @ G&C's 7/16 between 5AM & 1PM??? :waitasec:

 

[JWG]

FWIW, here is the morning activity in a nutshell. All AIM-related:

8:01 AIM started up with screen name george4937
8:17 Change to screen name caseyomarie
8:17 Contact made with screen name shirleymp79
8:19 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:33 Contact made with screen name l7tone
8:33 Contact made with screen name thatenglishguy84
8:33 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:54 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:57 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
8:57 Contact made with screen name slazz13
8:57 Contact made with screen name sweetprincess735
8:57 Contact made with screen name mistermayagi
9:21 Visit www.mywebface.com
9:33 Contact made with screen name houston143
9:35 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
9:38 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
10:09 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:14 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:25 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:35 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:49 Contact made with screen name adc4hire
10:49 Contact made with screen name whatshotorlando
10:49 Contact made with screen name sixsideddice3307
10:49 Contact made with screen name witeplayboi
10:49 Logout (?) screen name caseyomarie

When I note "contact made", all I know is that it was some sort of event that created a record in the internet history. It could be KC initiating a chat, someone initiating a chat with KC, or possibly nothing more than an alert to KC that someone came online. It is impossible for me to tell.

The visits to mywebface.com seem to be associated with chat avatars. Given that the site visits do not exactly coincide with screen name contacts, it kind of appears that KC ... while supposedly searching for her lost daughter ... was creating avatars for some of her chat buddies? :waitasec:

 

[BeanE]

The visits to mywebface.com seem to be associated with chat avatars. Given that the site visits do not exactly coincide with screen name contacts, it kind of appears that KC ... while supposedly searching for her lost daughter ... was creating avatars for some of her chat buddies? :waitasec:

That's our KC - always thinking of others. They can use it in mitigation.

 

[BeanE]

BeanE...I'm curious if the late 7/15PM desktop work Lee (w/ some help from Casey to get into the AT&T account) was passed off to Cindy as working to get Caylee back IYKWIM. I 'spect things all kinda ran together @ some point.

Is there any other info to suggest Lee was @ G&C's 7/16 between 5AM & 1PM??? :waitasec:

If memory serves me correctly she talked about this at the bond hearing and in the Greta interview. In one she said she and KC put together the myspace while waiting for LE to arrive on 7/15. In the other she said she got KC out of her room, that KC was on the phone and/or wanted to take a shower, and she took her to the puter to put the myspace together. This would have been the morning of the 16th.

She was trying to make it sound like KC did all of it cuz she was such a great mom. It was obvious that Cindy was exaggerating.

I think it's a good probability that KC wasn't being truthful about what she was doing on the puter, and there was passing off of what she was really doing.

For Lee being at G&C's AM of 7/16, I can't think of anything right off. I think I assumed he was at G&C's when he was making those phone calls and finding out KC had given him fake numbers e.g. w/Brittany = Juliet. I just can't think of anything offhand that indicated he was at G&C vs his own place.

 

[BondJamesBond]

10:49 Contact made with screen name witeplayboi

snipped & bbm

Alright, then. That's one I recognize.

 

[BondJamesBond]

If memory serves me correctly she talked about this at the bond hearing and in the Greta interview. In one she said she and KC put together the myspace while waiting for LE to arrive on 7/15. In the other she said she got KC out of her room, that KC was on the phone and/or wanted to take a shower, and she took her to the puter to put the myspace together. This would have been the morning of the 16th.

She was trying to make it sound like KC did all of it cuz she was such a great mom. It was obvious that Cindy was exaggerating.

I think it's a good probability that KC wasn't being truthful about what she was doing on the puter, and there was passing off of what she was really doing.

For Lee being at G&C's AM of 7/16, I can't think of anything right off. I think I assumed he was at G&C's when he was making those phone calls and finding out KC had given him fake numbers e.g. w/Brittany = Juliet. I just can't think of anything offhand that indicated he was at G&C vs his own place.

On one hand...we don't have any calls from Lee to either Cindy or George's cell phone 7/16AM to let them know 'bout his discovery. On the other hand we don't have the home phone record. On our third hand we don't have any calls from/to Lee on Casey's cell phone 7/16AM either. :waitasec: Seems like Lee's natural reaction would've been to go directly to Casey and say, "WTF??!!?". I guess the absence of any computer activity after 5:25AM and before Casey's AIM activity is inconclusive...Lee could've either sacked out @ G&C's or gone home. If he stayed @ G&C's I kinda expect we would've seen more computer activity from him if/when Casey wasn't on.

Perhaps trivial, but, IMHO, Casey didn't have phone #'s memorized...hence, she likely couldn't have given Lee Juliette's (i.e. Brittany's) # until after the phone came back to G&C's. And, IF LE had exclusive control of the phone until they left...Casey wouldn't have been able to give Lee the # until >6:48AM 7/16. Absent calls 'tween Lee & Casey on Casey's phone records would support Lee sacking out @ G&C's and being there to clue Cindy in. OK...I'm going in circles. :bang: The only other opportunity would've been when Lee (w/ Casey's help I assume) logged onto AT&T 7/15PM @ G&C's...if Casey pulled Brittany's # outta those records...unlikely, IMHO...oh well.

So what? I guess as far as Casey having the opportunity to remove something incriminating from the Pontiac, it seems the dynamic @ the house 7/16AM was still one of distrust...not collusion. IOW...IF Casey moved something to the playhouse, etc. it would've been G&C's advance search of the backyard before the 7/17 K9 search that clued them into it on their own...not because Casey had tipped them off. After 12:30PM 7/16 Casey had only a single 30 second phone call to the Hopespring home phone in which to mention anything to them...and that call @ 1:06PM would unlikely have been a private one IYKWIM. Lee remains the wildcard. IF he was @ the house that morning he & Casey had a chance to talk privately...but, based on their subsequent conversations it seems Lee was pretty clueless.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I edited the following post quote to reflect the same information it originally contained...only now the activity is attributed to the desktop @ G&C's house as JWG later indicated it should have been. References in the original post to Tony using it as the laptop have been removed accordingly. References to cell phone have been removed and timestamps are moved to the beginning of the paragraph for flow. All due respect to JWG's work on this. :thumb:

Doing this to focus on the activity in order to pose a few questions, observations & speculation...

*edited as described here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4633468&postcount=77

7/15/08

8:47 PM about 40 seconds worth of AIM activity occurs. My belief is this is when the computer is powered on AIM automatically launches. Nothing happens for 1 1/2 hours.

10:15 PM activity resumes. For the next five minutes it looks like there are repeated attempts to log into KC's ATT wireless account, culminating in a visit to the "lost password" page to presumably have a new password sent to her email account. A successful login to Yahoo may have occurred at this time.

10:30 PM activity resumes again with an attempt to either register with or log into an existing "Lava Life" account. This lasts for about a minute. Attempts are then made to log into Facebook (unsuccessfully).

10:43 PM - a successful attempt to log into myspace is made, although the account is not clear (if I knew the numeric ID for KC I could probably tell). For the next 10 minutes comments and inbox messages are viewed.

10:57 PM - a successful attempt to log into Facebook is made, although the account is not clear. Numerous photos are viewed for the next 3 minutes. Activity stops.

11:15 PM - a return to Facebook with what appears to be a single upload.

11:19 PM - a second attempt to login to the ATT wireless account.

11:23 PM to 11:35 PM - a rapid-fire mixture of myspace and photobucket views. On Photobucket it is images. On myspace it is images and messages.

11:35 PM to 11:50 PM - many, many views of Facebook photos after what appears to be a successful login.​

7/16/08

1:40 AM - computer appears to reboot.

2:32 AM - successful login to Yahoo mail. Activity stops at 2:34 (possibly after seeing no email exists).

5:09 AM the computer is powered up, but no real activity until 5:18 when the MSN website is brought up. One of the very first things done here is to go to the white pages search off this site and enter "aida" as a first name and "fernandez-gonzalez" as the last name. Lee searches referral sites ussearch.com and reunion.com for ZFG. Activity is very sparse from about 5:25 AM to 1:40 PM.

*8:01 AM AIM activity detailed in earlier post*

1:40 PM to 2:00 PM or so there are multiple searches on multiple site for combinations of "cheryl davis" "east coast universal" and "battle of the bands" - all of which were figments of KC's imagination. One wonders how he continues believing sis to this day. :waitasec:

After a brief pause of 20 minutes or so, work began on the cayleeismissing, myspace page...Lee's part to understand just what KC was up to.​

Now...after reviewing the D/S Acevedo info BeanE provided along w/ JWG's computer forensic timeline...lemme propose the following observations/speculation.

1) Activity <10:43PM can be attributed to Lee ropeller:, while Casey had been taken by Acevedo to Sawgrass :takeoff:.

2) Activity 10:43PM to 11:50PM can be attributed largely to Casey. This timing of this period beginning fits almost perfectly w/ the travel time analysis provided earlier in this thread [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4593964&postcount=40"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Events Post 911 Calls Up to 7-16 Arrest[/ame].

The success of the logins betrays Casey's presence nline: vs. the pre-10:43PM attempts. Perhaps w/ Lee ropeller: in & out of the room, or possibly even keeping an eye out for Casey to rifle through accounts. Recall that LE was in the process of bringing the phone back to G&C's. Consider that the first call from the cell phone that pinged @ G&C's was precisely @ 11:55PM. So, based on that timing...it appears to me that when LE returned w/ the phone THAT demanded Casey's immediate attention, put an immediate halt to the desktop activity, and triggered Lee ropeller: to leave for Tony's. This set the scene Lee described w/ Casey & LE and the phone (as he left).

3) 11:55 PM to 12:33 AM LE kept Casey occupied w/ her phone calling people.

4) 12:33 AM to 01:05 AM Casey provided her handwritten statement. :deal: While Casey was writing Sgt. Hosey contacted Yuri.

5) 1:40 AM after Casey probably did Q&A regarding her handwritten statement...and before Lee returned to G&C's...Casey snuck in and attempted more computer activity...perhaps interrupted/discovered...explaining the lack of activity.

6) 2:32 AM activity at approximately the time Lee returned to G&C's and might've been engaged in the dumping out of the bag exercise w/ Cindy, Acevedo, et.al...where was Casey? On the computer! :computer: Perhaps this 2 minutes was all it took to delete the emails that were later witnessed by Lee to be gone. I could certainly accomplish that in <2 minutes.

7) 5:09 AM activity has already been attributed to Lee's research ropeller: while Casey was on her ride around courtesy of Yuri.​

Lemme suggest that event #2 above is when Casey deleted the MySpace entries April-July...and the images Jesse later described as being gone...perhaps some PB images too...gonzo. I've always been curious 'bout the deletion activity. :waitasec: It would've been uncharacteristically Casey to have deleted these items 'proactively'. No...:snooty:..Casey would've done it only when compelled to...IMHO. It would've also drawn attention to her other MS 'friends' to delete "current" activity...but deleting it from weeks/pages back in the history would've gone unnoticed. Perhaps some of the early discussion about Lee potentially facing charges...and "knowing" what he'd done per LE refers to his knowledge that Casey was destroying records/files. Of course...@ the time...Casey wasn't a suspect...she was the distraught mother assisting LE's investigation. Not suggesting that Lee ropeller: was altogether aware of what was happening. I can also envision how THIS MS activity could've been misconstrued (I couldn't resist) later by Cindy's account to have been Casey & Lee collaborating on the CayleeIsMissing page set-up.

Perhaps just restating what has already been observed/suggested? Alright, then...have @ it.

 

[BondJamesBond]

FWIW, here is the morning activity in a nutshell. All AIM-related:

8:01 AIM started up with screen name george4937
8:17 Change to screen name caseyomarie
8:17 Contact made with screen name shirleymp79
8:19 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:33 Contact made with screen name l7tone
8:33 Contact made with screen name thatenglishguy84
8:33 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:54 Visit www.mywebface.com
8:57 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
8:57 Contact made with screen name slazz13
8:57 Contact made with screen name sweetprincess735
8:57 Contact made with screen name mistermayagi
9:21 Visit www.mywebface.com
9:33 Contact made with screen name houston143
9:35 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
9:38 Contact made with screen name pierce5585
10:09 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:14 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:25 Contact made with screen name bgamer2000
10:35 Visit www.mywebface.com
10:49 Contact made with screen name adc4hire
10:49 Contact made with screen name whatshotorlando
10:49 Contact made with screen name sixsideddice3307
10:49 Contact made with screen name witeplayboi
10:49 Logout (?) screen name caseyomarie

When I note "contact made", all I know is that it was some sort of event that created a record in the internet history. It could be KC initiating a chat, someone initiating a chat with KC, or possibly nothing more than an alert to KC that someone came online. It is impossible for me to tell.

The visits to mywebface.com seem to be associated with chat avatars. Given that the site visits do not exactly coincide with screen name contacts, it kind of appears that KC ... while supposedly searching for her lost daughter ... was creating avatars for some of her chat buddies? :waitasec:

Anyone know Lee's AIM screen name?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The fact that history between April and July was deleted from the desktop on July 16 obviously shows that someone is trying to hide something that has to do with what was going on prior to Caylee being reported missing. The deleted info must have contained clues as to part of the story anyway.

I ask, why would KC not have deleted any info like that prior to July 16? One would think she would have cleaned up the desktop long before that day. Also, why delete anything after June 16? KC had not lived at Hopespring since that day, right? Does anybody have any ideas as to why she would not have cleaned up the computer earlier versus on the day she was about to be arrested? She must be dumb. It does fit in with other commentary regarding KC never thinking ahead and just doing what she felt was necessary in the moment though. Weird.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I'll answer one of my own questions. The history must have something to do with KC's communications with CA. That would be my guess anyway - at least the communications during June/July. Or it could have something to do with avenues CA was involved in during those months - ie, seeking counseling, communication with SP, etc. Can they tell if CA's stuff/work is still on the computer for those months?