Ex-Housekeeper Say Patsy Ramsey Killed JonBenet.

[Ames]

My goodness Coloradokares I had no idea. And I always enjoy your posts so much! That should be encouraging to hear, huh? Well get better girl! We have posts to post and crimes to solve together!:blowkiss:

I totally agree!

 

[Ames]

Thanks for posting.......swaying on the fence I go again.

LOL....we RDI's will try to blow you over our way.

 

[Ames]

Your right of course. I've corrected it.

You should have just left it....it seems that being a housekeeper would have been alot better job for her!!

 

[Ames]

yes,and even sick ppl like Santa Bill.
If all JR was guilty of is a cover-up,I would have expected him to not point the finger at their friends,and if Patsy had done so anyway,you'd think he would have said something like,'no,honey,those are our friends...they wouldn't do that'.But nope...not a word.Not even so much as an apology when they were cleared.That's not even being an adult,IMO.

And in John's 98 interview...he says that Santa Bill "claimed to be very frail". Like he couldn't look at him, and SEE that the man was OLD and FRAIL.

 

[JMO8778]

You should have just left it....it seems that being a housekeeper would have been alot better job for her!!

ROFL !!! I second that !

 

[JMO8778]

And in John's 98 interview...he says that Santa Bill "claimed to be very frail". Like he couldn't look at him, and SEE that the man was OLD and FRAIL.

.and he'd had bypass surgery;that takes awhile to get your strength back.I've worked on a cardiac unit before;they literally come out of O.R. looking blue/grayish.. almost dead.He did NOT need the stress of being falsely accused of murder..that is just beyond reprehension,IMO.I understand he needed to be investigated and cleared,though.But I do recall that in JR's interviews,it was said he 'laid it all on Santa Bill'.

 

[Ames]

.and he'd had bypass surgery;that takes awhile to get your strength back.I've worked on a cardiac unit before;they literally come out of O.R. looking blue/grayish.. almost dead.He did NOT need the stress of being falsely accused of murder..that is just beyond reprehension,IMO.I understand he needed to be investigated and cleared,though.But I do recall that in JR's interviews,it was said he 'laid it all on Santa Bill'.

Yeah, I know that he needed to be checked out...but, John really ticked me off with that..."he claimed to be very frail"....bull. Like Santa Bill was just making it (the fact that he was frail) up. I mean..look at the guy! I suppose that Santa Bill crawled through that basement window and then hoisted himself back up out of it too....I mean, after he wrote a three page RN, carrried JB to the basement, hit her in the head and then garotted her...not to mention removing her underwear and replacing them, after wiping her down. That's alot of stuff, for a guy that had by-pass surgery...and was no spring chicken (or rooster, rather) by NO MEANS.

 

[coloradokares]

Yeah, I know that he needed to be checked out...but, John really ticked me off with that..."he claimed to be very frail"....bull. Like Santa Bill was just making it (the fact that he was frail) up. I mean..look at the guy! I suppose that Santa Bill crawled through that basement window and then hoisted himself back up out of it too....I mean, after he wrote a three page RN, carrried JB to the basement, hit her in the head and then garotted her...not to mention removing her underwear and replacing them, after wiping her down. That's alot of stuff, for a guy that had by-pass surgery...and was no spring chicken (or rooster, rather) by NO MEANS.

Thats no right way to treat a santa I dont care who you are. That is just WRONG!! Sticks and rocks nothing but coal for the stocking is what I would say.!! The only crime McSanta ever commited was being Santa to the wrong ingrates. Anyone thinking otherwise has to be Whackadoodles:dance: :doh:

 

[JMO8778]

Thats no right way to treat a santa I dont care who you are. That is just WRONG!! Sticks and rocks nothing but coal for the stocking is what I would say.!! The only crime McSanta ever commited was being Santa to the wrong ingrates. Anyone thinking otherwise has to be Whackadoodles:dance: :doh:

well-said !

 

[coloradokares]

well-said !

I just knew someone had to appreciate that

 

[Ames]

well-said !

Ditto!

 

[JMO8778]

Absolutely, any downer is a depressant. I had a whole back and forth on CL when it existed and the IDI's argument was that Klonopin or Xanax does not have a negative effect basically. It was like talking to a wall, but then the ever great Rashi came up with a post that talked about the adverse effects of Xanax.

indeed they do have a negative effect,in fact, it can be like handing a loaded gun to someone who is depressed! So Dr's have to be careful when deciding whether or not to prescribe them,because many times depression and anxiety go hand in hand.a better choice for that is a non-addictive drug like BuSpar for the anxiety.

And I was not saying that the drugs caused her to do this, I was saying that everything combined, her being up for 16 hours, her turning 40, her just going through a huge birthday bash, her having to leave the next morning at 5 and then going on the Big Red Boat after that (which means double packing) (I am exhausted thinking about it) and having some wine and MORE THAN LIKELY a few xanax (which by the way are highly addictive - so I really doubt Patsy stopped taking them after she went into remission - the anxiety was still there and so was the dependence).

Oh absolutely,well-said.it's also possible she was trying to self-medicate the mood swings that LHP noticed she was having.many times ppl will use alcohol and/or whatever drugs they have on hand,when what they really need is a mood stabilizer and/or an antidepressant instead.

 

[JMO8778]

JMO,

I think Patsy was a daily user of xanax and klonopin or any kind of anxiety reducing drug. She had to be using these drugs during her cancer treatments because how can you survive - it is horrendous. But I do not think she stopped - I know she told one of the detectives, possibly Thomas, or it might have been Kane that she had an anxiety attack after the murder and that she ran to a doctor who told her that is what it was. What is Patsy an idiot that she cannot tell that she is having an anxiety attack. It, imo, was her way of covering her drug use.

good point,and Dr Beuf's behavior makes me suspect he was possibly a supplier of some of them for her before the murder.for one thing,he was one of the first ones called that morning.of course Patsy may have had a script from her own Dr. as well,but him also helping her at the Fernie's,too,I mean...he was a pediatrician,for goodness sake...and he also made whiney excuses for her to not talk to LE.why not her own Dr to help her?? how many Peds go on scene to help an adult??? and of course all the times that Patsy took JB to the Dr...perhaps she took her for herself as well.

 

[DeeDee249]

good point,and Dr Beuf's behavior makes me suspect he was possibly a supplier of some of them for her before the murder.for one thing,he was one of the first ones called that morning.of course Patsy may have had a script from her own Dr. as well,but him also helping her at the Fernie's,too,I mean...he was a pediatrician,for goodness sake...and he also made whiney excuses for her to not talk to LE.why not her own Dr to help her?? how many Peds go on scene to help an adult??? and of course all the times that Patsy took JB to the Dr...perhaps she took her for herself as well.

I though the same thing- where was PR's own doctor. I don't know- to me, it is a little creepy calling a pediatrician when the patient is already dead. I do suspect Dr. Beuf knew his little patient had a neurotic mother, and I don't think he was above writing a script for her, though most pediatricians would never do such a thing.

 

[rashomon]

When my husband took too many Xanax....(yes..I will admit, he used to abuse them horribly)...he would slur like that too. And it would get on my nerves SO BAD...that I would make fun of him. He looked and sounded like an IDIOT. And usually he was picking fights with either me or my kids while he was doing it. For sure...Patsy was a user.. I am married to one, so I should know.

Remember Shill? He wrote that he took Xanax in combination with alcohol and about the terrible effects this combination has. That was one of the few times I believed what he said.

indeed they do have a negative effect,in fact, it can be like handing a loaded gun to someone who is depressed! So Dr's have to be careful when deciding whether or not to prescribe them,because many times depression and anxiety go hand in hand.a better choice for that is a non-addictive drug like BuSpar for the anxiety.

Oh absolutely,well-said.it's also possible she was trying to self-medicate the mood swings that LHP noticed she was having.many times ppl will use alcohol and/or whatever drugs they have on hand,when what they really need is a mood stabilizer and/or an antidepressant instead.

Serious side efects of Xanax are for example:
Blurred vision, headache, seizures, slurred speech, mental confusion, depression, irritability, nervousness, sleep disturbances, euphoria, stupor.
More side effects of the drug are listed here:

http://www.alprazolam.cc/alprazolam-side-effects.htm

In one of her interviews, Patsy admitted to taking PAXIL.

Paxil side effects

Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: skin rash or hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Contact your doctor promptly if you have any of the following side effects, especially if they are new symptoms or if they get worse: mood changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, irritability, agitation, aggressiveness, severe restlessness, mania (mental and/or physical hyperactivity), thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself.
Call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:

• seizure (convulsions);
• tremors, shivering, muscle stiffness or twitching;
• problems with balance or coordination; or
• agitation, confusion, sweating, fast heartbeat.

Other less serious side effects are more likely to occur, such as:

• feeling nervous, restless, or unable to sit still;
• drowsiness, dizziness, weakness;
• sleep problems (insomnia);
• nausea, constipation, loss of appetite;
• weight changes;
• decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm; or
• dry mouth, yawning, or ringing in your ears.

Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is especially bothersome.

http://www.drugs.com/paxil.html


I believe that not a day went by since JonBenet's death where Patsy did not use drugs to numb her feelings.

 

[Ames]

Remember Shill? He wrote that he took Xanax in combination with alcohol and about the terrible effects this combination has. That was one of the few times I believed what he said.

Serious side efects of Xanax are for example:
Blurred vision, headache, seizures, slurred speech, mental confusion, depression, irritability, nervousness, sleep disturbances, euphoria, stupor.
More side effects of the drug are listed here:

http://www.alprazolam.cc/alprazolam-side-effects.htm

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Yes, I remember him...and that explains ALOT! I could go ON and ON...about the crap that my husband put us through..with that combo. One time, he fell asleep in his supper....well, he actually did that ALOT...but, this particular time, he did that...and the girls and I just LEFT him there....at the table...face down in his food. So, we went onto bed...and finally about 2 am, we hear a loud noise, and we went downstairs, and he had fallen out of his chair..LOL..and onto the floor. And he was snoring away!!! So, we just turned around and headed back upstairs for the bed. He eventually woke up and staggered into the bed, himself. He would fall into things...he broke our shower rod. He fell in the bathroom and grabbed the shower curtain...and he landed in the bathtub...LOL...I HAVE to laugh. He hit my oldest daughter, while she was wearing a backbrace...after her surgery for scoliosis!!!! Goodness....I could just go on and on....and probably write a book. He has finally come to his senses...it was either that, or I was outta here.

 

[coloradokares]

Remember Shill? He wrote that he took Xanax in combination with alcohol and about the terrible effects this combination has. That was one of the few times I believed what he said.

Serious side efects of Xanax are for example:
Blurred vision, headache, seizures, slurred speech, mental confusion, depression, irritability, nervousness, sleep disturbances, euphoria, stupor.
More side effects of the drug are listed here:

http://www.alprazolam.cc/alprazolam-side-effects.htm

In one of her interviews, Patsy admitted to taking PAXIL.

Paxil side effects

Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: skin rash or hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Contact your doctor promptly if you have any of the following side effects, especially if they are new symptoms or if they get worse: mood changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, irritability, agitation, aggressiveness, severe restlessness, mania (mental and/or physical hyperactivity), thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself.
Call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:

• seizure (convulsions);
• tremors, shivering, muscle stiffness or twitching;
• problems with balance or coordination; or
• agitation, confusion, sweating, fast heartbeat.

Other less serious side effects are more likely to occur, such as:

• feeling nervous, restless, or unable to sit still;
• drowsiness, dizziness, weakness;
• sleep problems (insomnia);
• nausea, constipation, loss of appetite;
• weight changes;
• decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm; or
• dry mouth, yawning, or ringing in your ears.

Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is especially bothersome.

http://www.drugs.com/paxil.html


I believe that not a day went by since JonBenet's death where Patsy did not use drugs to numb her feelings.

So that was what the H-E-double toothpicks was wrong with Shill He was trigger hair and so freaking abusive. If anyone forgets the abusive nature of his post to me as Shill Toaster and another hat I have them saved so incase he ever makes good on his post that I would be in hell soon enough etc etc. He had me so afraid I cant even tell you the lengths me and my family went to assure my protection especially after the bleeds into the brain. He made that threat between two hospital stays the last being the near fatal stroke. Alcohol and xanax? I am speechless at the thought of what he used do spout off on.

 

[Ames]

So that was what the H-E-double toothpicks was wrong with Shill He was trigger hair and so freaking abusive. If anyone forgets the abusive nature of his post to me as Shill Toaster and another hat I have them saved so incase he ever makes good on his post that I would be in hell soon enough etc etc. He had me so afraid I cant even tell you the lengths me and my family went to assure my protection especially after the bleeds into the brain. He made that threat between two hospital stays the last being the near fatal stroke. Alcohol and xanax? I am speechless at the thought of what he used do spout off on.

Yep..that DOES explain alot...now doesn't it. Trust me...I KNOW first hand that alcohol and xanax do not mix...they make a person physically and verbally abusive.

 

[RiverRat]

JMO,

I think Patsy was a daily user of xanax and klonopin or any kind of anxiety reducing drug. She had to be using these drugs during her cancer treatments because how can you survive - it is horrendous. But I do not think she stopped - I know she told one of the detectives, possibly Thomas, or it might have been Kane that she had an anxiety attack after the murder and that she ran to a doctor who told her that is what it was. What is Patsy an idiot that she cannot tell that she is having an anxiety attack. It, imo, was her way of covering her drug use. John said he had no idea that she was using Xanax when Kane asked, yes it was Kane.

John has no idea that his wife who is suspected of killing his daughter, he has no idea that she is taking xanax. And yet they never suspected each other of this horrible crime because they know each other too well and became even closer after it. :bang:

Patsy also had a panic attack prior to JonBenet's murder and was on medication for that - John claimed to have no clue about any of this going on with his beloved wife....yeah right.

 

[RiverRat]

Posting after a long period of monitoring...

If Patsy did it, John must know. How can he live with himself?

Outside of a prison cell.