Explosion at the Boston Marathon #3

[Kimberlyd125]

LOL I have no more "fascination" with this guy than all of you who pinned the two "foreigners."

Just curious what he was carrying the flags in because I haven't seen any photos of him before the blasts. Oh and the FBI asking for his clothes is just interesting. How many other people were asked?

I just noticed that most of your posts are about him so I was wondering.

All of you? That's a broad stroke.
I think most of us that you are calling all of you were "fascinated" due to descriptions we heard in the media.
Not because they looked foreign.

The FBI gathered clothes from victims too from what I understand. I don't find that interesting. I find it as evidence gathering. Carlos was down there in the midst of things. His clothes may have had a lot of evidence on them.

And Carlos showed a lot of bravery helping. I respect the guy. He could have simply walked away.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't think he had anything to do with it but he was questioned...
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/17/marathon-bombing-hero-questioned-by-fbi-police-at-boston-home/

Of course he was. He was "all up in it" so to speak.

 

[ISeeThroughYou]

I just noticed that most of your posts are about him so I was wondering.

All of you? That's a broad stroke.
I think most of us that you are calling all of you were "fascinated" due to descriptions we heard in the media.
Not because they looked foreign.

The FBI gathered clothes from victims too from what I understand. I don't find that interesting. I find it as evidence gathering. Carlos was down there in the midst of things. His clothes may have had a lot of evidence on them.

And Carlos showed a lot of bravery helping. I respect the guy. He could have simply walked away.

Well I noticed that most of your posts are about the "suspicious foreigners." Everyone close to the sight is a POI. That's called ruling people out. That's what the FBI are doing.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well I noticed that most of your posts are about the "suspicious foreigners." Everyone close to the sight is a POI. That's called ruling people out. That's what the FBI are doing.

Can you point to 1 post where I called them suspicious foreigners?
1?
Nope.
Cause I never have.

Even though you keep repeating that phrase over and over when referring to me.

I have explained this multiple times. I was focused on the two guys because and ONLY because they were described in the media this afternoon.
Before that, they were just two faces in a crowd.

It had nothing to do with them being "suspicious foreigners".

I'm still confused as to why you are thinking Carlos. I've seen nothing at all in the media or anywhere else that points to him as anything but a hero.

And neither of us are FBI so we really can't rule anybody out.

 

[AbbeyR]

Was the media 'lying'? No, they were wrong.

Or, if you want to be more generous, they were reporting accurately on the mass hysteria and racial profiling that is going on. Why did the media report about the Saudi suspect? Because a random person tackled a victim who looked like a foreigner, and handed him over to the police and the media as a a terrorist. Why did the media report that these two guys in the crowd were 'potential suspects'? Because random people on the internet (hi, that's us!) did the same thing, for the same reasons. They look like foreigners, and people could imagine bombs in their backpacks.

As soon as they hit the mainstream media, they were discredited. But some people are still demanding evidence that they aren't terrorists? Was there ever any evidence that they were?

This is a fact: We are 0 for 3 on picking terrorists out of the crowd. We shouldn't be turning to random innocent people to prove themselves, we should be calling out the media -- and ourselves -- for getting it wrong.

The whole 'heroic response to tragedy' thing is seriously starting to wear thin in the face of mass hysteria and we've already milked cowboy hat guy for all he's worth. At this point, people can either shrug and start scanning the crowd for another foreigner with a backpack, or take some effing responsibility and step up.

 

[MsFacetious]

Preparing for an update in Texas.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/category/234333/live

 

[Elley Mae]

Was the media 'lying'? No, they were wrong.

Or, if you want to be more generous, they were reporting accurately on the mass hysteria and racial profiling that is going on. Why did the media report about the Saudi suspect? Because a random person tackled a victim who looked like a foreigner, and handed him over to the police and the media as a a terrorist. Why did the media report that these two guys in the crowd were 'potential suspects'? Because random people on the internet (hi, that's us!) did the same thing, for the same reasons. They look like foreigners, and people could imagine bombs in their backpacks.

As soon as they hit the mainstream media, they were discredited. But some people are still demanding evidence that they aren't terrorists? Was there ever any evidence that they were?

This is a fact: We are 0 for 3 on picking terrorists out of the crowd. We shouldn't be turning to random innocent people to prove themselves, we should be calling out the media -- and ourselves -- for getting it wrong.

The whole 'heroic response to tragedy' thing is seriously starting to wear thin in the face of mass hysteria and we've already milked cowboy hat guy for all he's worth. At this point, people can either shrug and start scanning the crowd for another foreigner with a backpack, or take some effing responsibility and step up.

bbm, Yes it sure would be nice for the two young men in question to do that, step up and clear your good names,(images) so we can look for the real suspects. jmo

 

[Storm]

I am not really clear what point is trying to be made. Profiling is not what we're looking at here. We are looking at terrorism...whether it's foreign or domestic. Of course, the largest terrorist act on U.S. soil was foreign and we are at the time still fighting terrorism in Afghanistan. I think it would only be natural to wonder if these folks were not U.S. citizens and if it was another outside attack on us. We all realize that an Asian person, for example, could be a citizen and 2nd or 3rd generation American. It's also been known that American's have joined forces with the Taliban against their own country of origin. Nationality or race isn't the issue here, IMO, it's terrorism and who is responsible. ^i^

Was the media 'lying'? No, they were wrong.

Or, if you want to be more generous, they were reporting accurately on the mass hysteria and racial profiling that is going on. Why did the media report about the Saudi suspect? Because a random person tackled a victim who looked like a foreigner, and handed him over to the police and the media as a a terrorist. Why did the media report that these two guys in the crowd were 'potential suspects'? Because random people on the internet (hi, that's us!) did the same thing, for the same reasons. They look like foreigners, and people could imagine bombs in their backpacks.

As soon as they hit the mainstream media, they were discredited. But some people are still demanding evidence that they aren't terrorists? Was there ever any evidence that they were?

This is a fact: We are 0 for 3 on picking terrorists out of the crowd. We shouldn't be turning to random innocent people to prove themselves, we should be calling out the media -- and ourselves -- for getting it wrong.

The whole 'heroic response to tragedy' thing is seriously starting to wear thin in the face of mass hysteria and we've already milked cowboy hat guy for all he's worth. At this point, people can either shrug and start scanning the crowd for another foreigner with a backpack, or take some effing responsibility and step up.

 

[redheadedgal]

has this been posted already: krystle didn't die alone

The nurse who tended to Boston Marathon bombing victim Krystle Campbell near the finish line during her final moments of life would like to meet her parents in the hopes he could give them some solace in their grief.

Stephen Segatore would like to tell Campbell's parents that she didn't die alone, and she didn't suffer for long.

When EMTs carried a woman into the medical tent where Segatore was volunteering, he was struck by her beauty, her youth and her bright blue eye shadow.

more @ link http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/health/boston-campbell-nurse/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[Storm]

Not being able to pick out what a terrorist may look liked helped 9/11 terrorist. We are so afraid of being politically incorrect that we are body searching 80 year old women. The fact is that if anyone here thinks mideast when they hear the word terrorism, I completely understand. We all know that we can grow our own terrorist..the truth is that we do not know yet if Boston was foreign or domestic.
As an aside, I've been a Genealogist for 41 years and few of us know
a lot about our own ancestor's heritage. ^i^

I'm not questioning asking if it was a terrorist attack by a foreign group.
I'm questioning scanning the crowd for 'foreign' looking people and then publicly outing them as 'suspects'. Look at the 4chan threads. Read this one. There were not exactly sophisticated terrorism detection skills at work here.

 

[Sillybilly]

There are 2 people in these pictures that I hope LE have spoken to.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Just look at the pictures in sequence.

Person 1 is running away; must have been close to detonation spot. Clothes are ripped. Notice others that are standing do not appear to have ripped clothes.

Person 2 is in the green jacket. In each picture he keeps moving closing to wounded but doesn't seem to be hurrying in to offer assistance. Others are holding their ears/ducking. He keeps moving closer. Does he have in ear plugs?

These 2 individuals reactions raises questions for me.

I hope LE has spoken to them to ask what they saw.

JMO

Mr Green Jacket is the guy I posted about last nite, finding his demeanour so different from all those around him. I believe he is holding something black in his hands (okay hazarding a guess here, but it looks not unlike how one holds those radio control devices with both hands .. just from having seen a friend fly a remote-control airplane):

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[LaborDayRN]

Mr Green Jacket is the guy I posted about last nite, finding his demeanour so different from all those around him. I believe he is holding something black in his hands (okay hazarding a guess here, but it looks not unlike how one holds those radio control devices with both hands .. just from having seen a friend fly a remote-control airplane):

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Any idea if there is an available close up of this man?

 

[Sillybilly]

Any idea if there is an available close up of this man?

Not that I know of LaborDay ... only pics I've seen are the stills 3131 through 3140.

ETA: That's incorrect ... in addition to the ^^, there are the other pics a few posts back (can't find them right now) that show him going toward where the blast is, and standing near victims with that same kind of detached body language. Don't know which pics were taken first. In looking at that black thing in his hands again, it could be a camera .. not sure.

All MOO

 

[CHERIE.T]

There are 2 people in these pictures that I hope LE have spoken to.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Just look at the pictures in sequence.

Person 1 is running away; must have been close to detonation spot. Clothes are ripped. Notice others that are standing do not appear to have ripped clothes.

Person 2 is in the green jacket. In each picture he keeps moving closing to wounded but doesn't seem to be hurrying in to offer assistance. Others are holding their ears/ducking. He keeps moving closer. Does he have in ear plugs?

These 2 individuals reactions raises questions for me.

I hope LE has spoken to them to ask what they saw.

JMO

I'm with you about these 2. Seeing this vid clip frame by frame is Imoo very telling. :moo:
Mr. Green jacket doesn't move.....he just stands there. Wow

 

[CHERIE.T]

Can anyone make out what Mr. Green jacket is holding? Tia

 

[ellabella]

Can anyone make out what Mr. Green jacket is holding? Tia

Over his shoulder? Looks like a standard black messenger bag to me?

I also have to say, and this is probably not the case, but from looking at the above sideshow, especially photo 6, green jacket reminds me so much of many clients, n his stature and demeanour.(clients being adults with autism/brain injuries,etc).

ETA this photo is just a random google image search of msnger bags!

 

[fruity]

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...photos-to-boston-from-kabul-with-love/275063/

http://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bostonkabullovesmall22.jpg?w=1024&h=951

The Story Behind the Pictures.
This is the story behind my photo series – To Boston. From Kabul. With Love.
- Beth Murphy.

When I left Boston for Afghanistan nearly 6 weeks ago, it was with some trepidation – the first I’ve felt after several filming trips here. Why now? Perhaps because the Afghanistan I’m visiting this Spring is not the same as the country I traveled to in 2001/2002, 2006 and 2009. It has experienced a decade of war, and I’ve seen firsthand how the outlook has changed among so many — from one of cautious hope for a better future to one of.

*snip*

I decided I wanted to send some love from 6500 miles away. Before leaving the house, I made the sign, “To Boston / From Kabul / With Love” and planned to take one picture of me holding it. But as I talked to people here about what had happened – many had heard the news – I saw the pain in their faces, and reminders of their own hardships. They said, “I’m so sorry,” with that defining head shake that doesn’t need another word of explanation; it says, “I understand.”.

Frozan Rahmani, a program officer for CARE International, was especially emotional, “Every time I hear about attacks happening – whether it’s in the United States, Pakistan, England or here, I became too sad. All those people had hopes and dreams for their futures. Their parents had hopes and dreams for their futures. It doesn’t matter that we experience this more often here. No one should experience any of it ever. It’s always the innocent who suffer.”.

She paused. “I wish there was something I could do.”.

“There is,” I said. “Would you be willing to hold this sign to send a little love from Kabul?”.

There are more photos and the rest of the story at the link.

 

[Sillybilly]

Over his shoulder? Looks like a standard black messenger bag to me?

<snip pic>

I also have to say, and this is probably not the case, but from looking at the above sideshow, especially photo 6, green jacket reminds me so much of many clients, n his stature and demeanour.(clients being adults with autism/brain injuries,etc).

The more I enlarge the pics (although distorted), i'm pretty sure it's a camera he's holding, so the bag might be a camera bag. There aren't any pictures showing him actually using whatever it is.

I've also considered he may be deaf or just in shock. Regardless, his behaviour is highly irregular, considering all hell has broken loose around him.

 

[Sillybilly]

Looks like a camera to me, with a lens on and its strapped round his neck:

<snipped pic>

Wow, where'd you get such a clear pic? Thanks ... it's definitely a camera.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Looks like a camera to me, with a lens on and its strapped round his neck:

Taken from this pic (full resolution) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8527/8653921886_8a4d3b09a3_o_d.jpg

Excellent dandan.