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Anytime-- it's just been so quiet, I had to see what was up with TS' battle against SATIN lol
Exactly -- did you note the comment from a supporter? They reiterated that only God can judge, while insulting another's Christianity --

Um just because you think God would approve does not clear you from illegal activities and child endangerment!

You know, the older I get, the less I mind standing in for God when he's not available to strike people dead, point at people who do wrong, and say "What you did was wrong. What you did was reprehensible."

I'm old, cranky, and sick to death of people who do wrong to others. Some things are just plain wrong no matter how you twist and turn them. I seem to mind saying so less and less.
 
You know, the older I get, the less I mind standing in for God when he's not available to strike people dead, point at people who do wrong, and say "What you did was wrong. What you did was reprehensible."

I'm old, cranky, and sick to death of people who do wrong to others. Some things are just plain wrong no matter how you twist and turn them. I seem to mind saying so less and less.

You and me both.
 
As for the 'excuse' of why they couldn't say in front of the camera why they couldn't say?????????????? I believe that cat's already out of the bag. Some BS that it's one of LM's friends.............but ehhhhh.............this is from EJ and we all know how that goes. :liar: Can't remember if that part was speculation here or from something TS said, but that is what they're implying, imho.

fran
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The statements about Logan's friend possibly being Gabriel's father were made by TS on one of her NG interviews. She said EJ told her that one of Logan's friends that they went to high school with could have been the father but she couldn't put his name down because it would start "world war III". I'll try to find the link to that transcript and post it here for reference.
Since TS already said all of that on LIVE television, it wouldn't have mattered a bit for her to state it again in her "fresh out of jail" interview.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/15/ng.01.html
SNIP: T. SMITH: And what that was, was she said for the potential father, and that that father went to high school with her and Logan, and she feared the violent things that Logan could do to her and this guy, and I`m not going to mention because I don`t believe it now that he would have done these things.

But I was thinking that I was saving, you know, two people from being gravely hurt as well as another family because she, at that time, wanted to make up a name and put it down. And I said you can`t do that. You know, and she was like, let`s just put Jack`s name.



Also, to expand on this topic. How did TS think that it was NOT okay for EJ to make up a name to put on the paternity papers, but she didn't think it was wrong or illegal to put her cousin's name on there? Her whole statement on that is a contradiction in and of itself.
 
Well gee........for those of you who have FB and MS, aren't the Ss saying anything?

Guess they're really going to listen to their attorney. LOL, maybe he put the fear of G' in them. He probably told TS she's actually in a whole HEAP of trouble.............:loser:

JMHO
fran
 
Well gee........for those of you who have FB and MS, aren't the Ss saying anything?

Guess they're really going to listen to their attorney. LOL, maybe he put the fear of G' in them. He probably told TS she's actually in a whole HEAP of trouble.............:loser:

JMHO
fran

And he probably also gave her hefty bill for the days service plus whatever his retainer is.
If his warnings didn't get her attention, the lighter bank account might have.
 
You all may know this, but I just figured it out and thought I would post for those that don't know. On Facebook, when you click on someone's friends (even if you are not friends with them), a box pops up. You can then click Browse, select by city and then choose a city, like for example, San Antonio. Just FYI!
 
When was the MS post from EJ that said -where there's a will, there's a way? On the 23rd, right? I can't find confirmation on that and I know I saw it somewhere.
 
When was the MS post from EJ that said -where there's a will, there's a way? On the 23rd, right? I can't find confirmation on that and I know I saw it somewhere.

That was also just two days after she posted two comments on her MySpace page stating, "Where there's a will, there's a way" and "Excited to start my new life."

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/09/crimesider/entry6190388.shtml

I was just checking something in the article and happened to have it open in another window lol.

The article indicates Dec 24.
 
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Hi everyone, new to board, but I've been following the forum and tying to keep up with all the updates for Gabriel. Hope I'm posting this correctly...

I'm not sure if this has been explored yet, but has anyone given any thought to some of the postings that EJ made on her ms page? Something's been bothering me about one of her posts, and made it even more so when debloree, on this forum, commented on it as well.

EJ posted on Dec. 21st at 11:14 am that "my bubba's starting to crawl". If I understand correctly, EJ checked in the HG motel on the 21st @ 11:00am, so it would appear that this would have been one of the very next things she did. Why? and why would she care enough about G starting to crawl to post about it if she was going to give him away? This could be just wild speculation on my part, but could it be that EJ's post was meant to say something more than it does, and if so, to whom?
 
Hi everyone, new to board, but I've been following the forum and tying to keep up with all the updates for Gabriel. Hope I'm posting this correctly...

I'm not sure if this has been explored yet, but has anyone given any thought to some of the postings that EJ made on her ms page? Something's been bothering me about one of her posts, and made it even more so when debloree, on this forum, commented on it as well.

EJ posted on Dec. 21st at 11:14 am that "my bubba's starting to crawl". If I understand correctly, EJ checked in the HG motel on the 21st @ 11:00am, so it would appear that this would have been one of the very next things she did. Why? and why would she care enough about G starting to crawl to post about it if she was going to give him away? This could be just wild speculation on my part, but could it be that EJ's post was meant to say something more than it does, and if so, to whom?

Hi Catbird1!:wave: Welcome! I'm glad you brought this back up because it's been a concern of mine as well. It just doesn't fit how she's been described. I call my little boy "Bubba" so it was just weird to hear her use an affectionate term and acknowledge a milestone of his. Abusive parents can show love one minute though and then go into a rage the next. Good catch on the timing of the check in and the MS post. Where was he crawling in the car??? That is strange. As if she were just posting to let someone know they were ok, or to rub in Logan's face that he was missing a big milestone for Gabriel.
 
Thanks for the welcome TXHope!

There is something else I noticed, the next time she updated her page was on the 23rd @ 1:37pm. I believe this is the same day that EJ had the babysitter watch G from 11:45 am to 1:30pm, again, this would mean that EJ immediately posted that message on her ms page after her "important appt". Could EJ been trying to tell someone that she found a "way" to carry forward with plans of giving G away?
 
Thanks for the welcome TXHope!

There is something else I noticed, the next time she updated her page was on the 23rd @ 1:37pm. I believe this is the same day that EJ had the babysitter watch G from 11:45 am to 1:30pm, again, this would mean that EJ immediately posted that message on her ms page after her "important appt". Could EJ been trying to tell someone that she found a "way" to carry forward with plans of giving G away?

Yes she could of been. That message also supports the theory of Tammi calling the room in front of the babysitter and telling her it wasn't going to work because Logan won't sign the papers. EJ's response "what do we do come home?". She could of just said this to Tammi while all along she was working on plan B (important appt) on her own with a new couple. Where there's a will, there's a way-it didn't work with Tammi but she's found someone else it will work with.
 
Thanks for the welcome TXHope!

There is something else I noticed, the next time she updated her page was on the 23rd @ 1:37pm. I believe this is the same day that EJ had the babysitter watch G from 11:45 am to 1:30pm, again, this would mean that EJ immediately posted that message on her ms page after her "important appt". Could EJ been trying to tell someone that she found a "way" to carry forward with plans of giving G away?

The timing certainly suggests some kind code or secrete message.
 
Welcome Catbird! Good point about the timing of the ms posts by EJ!

I personally am of the opinion that a mother may care about a child so much that she does give up that child for adoption; of course in this case I don't believe EJ should have done such without Logan's approval, married or not, but I do have to consider women try to take their children away from fathers all of the time, and so do men try to block women from their own children -- there may be good reasons for doing so or not, and I believe there was not a good reason in this case, but still does not automatically mean that the children are not cared for

All of that said, IMO EJ planned an adoption for three reasons -- she did care about Gabriel -- she did care about her own life -- she did not care about Logan -- and
not necessarily in that order -- probably the reverse order

I just don't think that I can assume that she did not care for Gabriel at all, just because she wanted to give him up to a couple for adoption

IMO perhaps as Gabriel grew and the milestones were reached, EJ was more and more pressured to do the adoption before he moved from baby to toddler or little boy --

IMO the updates to her MS are telling, as they do seem like she was flaunting and they do seem directed to Logan

I thought I heard that TS said that Logan is the one that pointed her to MS postings? Am I wrong? I think this is telling if true-- as possibly the postings would not have been directed at TS if EJ did not think TS was aware of EJ's ms -- MS postings would not be part of a plan of anyone who knew about running and staying underground as IP addresses are easily traced

IMO we have Logan's statement that she was neglectful, and she was certainly abusive toward Logan, but I have not seen evidence of abuse toward Gabriel as defined here
http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/define.cfm
 
TS also posted on the 23rd, on her FB page, that EJ had gotten "underground" help in Texas. Does anyone know what time TS posted that message, to compare the time against when EJ sent her message @ 1:37pm...

I'm still of the mindset that TS was/is involved...Just too many coincidences, i.e., previous involvement with questionable adoption, Healing Waters company that TS owns located in SA and the fact that EJ made sure to call TS after the text she sent to LM to make sure TS knew that G was really ok...
JMO
 
In one of her many, many interviews, Tammi made a big deal about trying to teach Gabriel to crawl and eat from a spoon while she and Jack had him.
 
Thanks to all for the warm welcome!
Sorry about the wording with the first post with questioning why EJ would care about G crawling. Let me clarify that it was not my intention to imply the EJ didn't care about G, or that she had been or was currently abusive towards G. It just seems that a parent that was in the process of giving their child away, would want to distance themselves emotionally from that child, in order to complete the process with a minimum amount of distress to themselves. Especially in EJ case, when you consider the nature of how she gave G away.
MOO
 

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