Facial Masks - Coronavirus

[crhedBngr]

Do you think that masks have reached a 'saturation point' where most people that have one if they want one. (Maybe not multiples or fancy ones, but a bare minimum?)

Joann's Fabrics has not reached a saturation point: https://www.joann.com/make-to-give-response/

 

[Laughing]

I wasn't sure where to post this...the funnies, the foreign thread...
Wear a mask they say. Not THAT mask... Guess I'm not getting my hoop skirt dress after all.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/cops-hunt-person-wearing-creepy-17th-century-plague-doctor-costume/

BBM

LeBlack, I have been involved in living history & have hoops. As this whole thing got started, my office talked about setting up a series of images to show what is, and is not, a 6 foot distance.

I checked the math, and even 2 ladies in ball-gown-sized hoops are not 6 feet apart if their skirts are touching. A typical daytime hoop only has a radius 16" for a social distance of under 3 feet, a ballgown hoop about 19" for a social distance of under 4 feet.

Picturesque, yes. Safe 2020 social distance -- nope.

And since LeBlack mentioned them, forget myths you've heard about hoops & their era-specific corsets. I have moved folding chairs, played catch, churned ice cream, and driven a 5-speed wearing a complete 1861 outfit.

Without the bonnet for the 5-speed part, of course.

Leftover fabric from that dress, and an 1857 style that is pre-hoop, are both now masks.

Stay out of my sewing room, please!

 

[Deleted member 158085]

So, this is annoying. Our Governor is starting up Farmers Market, only for food.

What about mask makers? Everywhere you go now, requires a mask. I wanna buy some...and no cute ones to be found. Why can't our clever mask makers be allowed at the Farmer's Market?!

Etsy has tons. I’ve also seen some nice ones in FB ads. Here’s what I keep telling people to look for when buying a professionally made mask. It’s not more expensive to get these things, but it makes a difference.
1 - nose wire
2- filter pocket
3- look for that separate chin piece. It absolutely helps.
4- make sure it is adjustable.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Guys, do you have a good link for multiple child size mask measurements? I need to make the standard pleated mask for a 5 and a 9 year old. If you know the dimensions, I don't need a link.

 

[PayrollNerd]

My friend made a few but I never asked her the measurements. I found this online.

For ages 4-12- You need two pieces of fabric measuring 5″x 7″ and 2 pieces of 1/8th” elastic measuring 6″ long. If you can’t find skinny elastic, you can cut wide ones. Or if you can’t find any elastic, you can use long strings and tie at the back.
Child Size Face Mask | The Stitching Scientist

For ages 2-4- You need two pieces of fabric measuring 4″x 6″ and 2 pieces of 1/8th” elastic measuring 5″ long.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

My friend made a few but I never asked her the measurements. I found this online.

For ages 4-12- You need two pieces of fabric measuring 5″x 7″ and 2 pieces of 1/8th” elastic measuring 6″ long. If you can’t find skinny elastic, you can cut wide ones. Or if you can’t find any elastic, you can use long strings and tie at the back.
Child Size Face Mask | The Stitching Scientist

For ages 2-4- You need two pieces of fabric measuring 4″x 6″ and 2 pieces of 1/8th” elastic measuring 5″ long.

Thank You! I now have 4 kids to make them for.

 

[PayrollNerd]

This is a good visual for those who are resistant to wearing a mask. It’s not perfect but it certainly helps.

See how a mask affects how a cough travels
See how a mask affects how a cough travels - CNN Video

 

[Deleted member 158085]

This is a good visual for those who are resistant to wearing a mask. It’s not perfect but it certainly helps.

See how a mask affects how a cough travels
See how a mask affects how a cough travels - CNN Video

I made two masks today for someone who is claustrophobic. She lives in Kentucky, and masks will be mandatory 5/11. She was truly flipping out about this. I questioned her for a bit to figure out exactly what’s bugging her about other masks and then sat down and produced a few things that might help. One of them, frankly, will be useless. But it meets the requirements and it might be the only thing she can wear. It’s made of the type of soft fabric she said she could stand. But I’m encouraging her to try the other one as well, and I sent her extra soft, round, comfortable elastic as well as soft ties so she can rig it however it feels best.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Etsy has tons. I’ve also seen some nice ones in FB ads. Here’s what I keep telling people to look for when buying a professionally made mask. It’s not more expensive to get these things, but it makes a difference.
1 - nose wire
2- filter pocket
3- look for that separate chin piece. It absolutely helps.
4- make sure it is adjustable.

Bumping for @10ofRods

 

[PayrollNerd]

Mask chuckles.... LOL!

 

[PayrollNerd]

I made two masks today for someone who is claustrophobic. She lives in Kentucky, and masks will be mandatory 5/11. She was truly flipping out about this. I questioned her for a bit to figure out exactly what’s bugging her about other masks and then sat down and produced a few things that might help. One of them, frankly, will be useless. But it meets the requirements and it might be the only thing she can wear. It’s made of the type of soft fabric she said she could stand. But I’m encouraging her to try the other one as well, and I sent her extra soft, round, comfortable elastic as well as soft ties so she can rig it however it feels best.

My friend has had her jaw rebuilt and one of the residual issues is the neuropathy with one side of her face. Anything touching it or applying pressure is painful. We were brainstorming to get her covered. I think she hit on a scarf somehow wrapped on her but I can’t visualize it. I told her to take safety pins hook them to the sides of her glasses and drape the fabric across her face. She’s an attorney so it has to look reasonable. She hasn’t sent me a selfie.

 

[LeBlack]

This may make sense for people making lots of masks or no other alternative for ties... I knew about the bias tape makers and wonder if I could rig one to do this. Duct tape and bungee cords maybe,lol. It's quite the contraption!

 

[Deleted member 158085]

This pattern has the chin piece and has been tested. Here are the filtering results

When we made the masks out of the following materials they filtered out 87% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
+ One layer of oil absorbent towel + one layer of shop towel (Zep, Wypall or Toolbox brands)
+ Two layers of shop towel (Zep, Wypall, or Toolbox brands

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with any of the following filters, the mask filtered out 82% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
-W ypall X80 Towel
-Z epShopTowel
-T oolboxShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with the following filter, the mask filtered out 70% of particles based on the Portacount fit test: -S cottShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional insert piece and filleditwithn ofilters,themaskfilteredout52%ofparticlesbasedonthePortacountfittest.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0050/2474/3524/files/Suay_Mask_Pattern_1.1.pdf?v=1586398631

I got the link from this article. Here are the instructions for a better-fitting homemade mask that can filter particles 2x better than cotton, created by three clothing designers

 

[bears10]

I counted up the number I can remember giving away, and I have made at least 175 masks to date. Rest homes and cancer centers are still asking for them. Now I have old classmates asking me to make them for their parents. I’m now breaking my rule about not going to the post office so I can occasionally mail some. I’m working on more for my co-workers. We had a meeting yesterday and the mask my boss was wearing kept falling down. He finally commented on how my mask was staying put, so I offered to make him some.

If you remember the weight of the last package you sent, you can use that to print postage on the usps website so you don’t have to go to the post office. You can even schedule a pickup on the website too, in case the package doesn’t fit in your mailbox

 

[Deleted member 158085]

If you remember the weight of the last package you sent, you can use that to print postage on the usps website so you don’t have to go to the post office. You can even schedule a pickup on the website too, in case the package doesn’t fit in your mailbox

That’s what I’ve been doing since that shipment. Well, sort of. I can’t print here but we’ve ordered stamps to be delivered and I just use those. I will have a larger one in the near future, however, that I will have to go in for.

 

[anneg]

This pattern has the chin piece and has been tested. Here are the filtering results

When we made the masks out of the following materials they filtered out 87% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
+ One layer of oil absorbent towel + one layer of shop towel (Zep, Wypall or Toolbox brands)
+ Two layers of shop towel (Zep, Wypall, or Toolbox brands

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with any of the following filters, the mask filtered out 82% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
-W ypall X80 Towel
-Z epShopTowel
-T oolboxShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with the following filter, the mask filtered out 70% of particles based on the Portacount fit test: -S cottShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional insert piece and filleditwithn ofilters,themaskfilteredout52%ofparticlesbasedonthePortacountfittest.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0050/2474/3524/files/Suay_Mask_Pattern_1.1.pdf?v=1586398631

I got the link from this article. Here are the instructions for a better-fitting homemade mask that can filter particles 2x better than cotton, created by three clothing designers

This mask looks like a good design to me--I wonder if there are online sources to buy such masks already made. My hand sewing ability is probably not up to making them myself (no sewing machine). I have a cloth mask made by a friend but it fits too tightly over my nose and mouth.

The instructions don't give suggested dimensions for the pattern--just a 1" box for reference.

 

[10ofRods]

This mask looks like a good design to me--I wonder if there are online sources to buy such masks already made. My hand sewing ability is probably not up to making them myself (no sewing machine). I have a cloth mask made by a friend but it fits too tightly over my nose and mouth.

The instructions don't give suggested dimensions for the pattern--just a 1" box for reference.

I'm looking around for the same thing - regular cloth masks do not give enough protection for me at all (3% filtration if one layer, and most are only 2 layers, so probably 6%).

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers

Here are the results from that study:

Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

That's why people are using those shop rag/oil absorbent towels (which are now rather hard to find). And there's no way I have the skills to make one properly.

Someone could make and sell on Etsy!

 

[PayrollNerd]

The nurses at the oncology unit are using the masks I made with a coffee filter folded in half, tucked into the filter pocket. That makes it 4 layers. 100% cotton front, 2 layers of coffee filter and 100% cotton back. No idea what the percent of germs are being filtered but the nurses are thrilled and so far, have found them sufficient. Sometimes they take their disposable medical masks and slide them in the filter pocket because their ears hurt.

 

[10ofRods]

This pattern has the chin piece and has been tested. Here are the filtering results

When we made the masks out of the following materials they filtered out 87% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
+ One layer of oil absorbent towel + one layer of shop towel (Zep, Wypall or Toolbox brands)
+ Two layers of shop towel (Zep, Wypall, or Toolbox brands

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with any of the following filters, the mask filtered out 82% of particles based on the Portacount fit test:
-W ypall X80 Towel
-Z epShopTowel
-T oolboxShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional pocket piece, filling it with the following filter, the mask filtered out 70% of particles based on the Portacount fit test: -S cottShopTowel

When we made the mask out of t ight woven cotton and added the o ptional insert piece and filleditwithn ofilters,themaskfilteredout52%ofparticlesbasedonthePortacountfittest.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0050/2474/3524/files/Suay_Mask_Pattern_1.1.pdf?v=1586398631

I got the link from this article. Here are the instructions for a better-fitting homemade mask that can filter particles 2x better than cotton, created by three clothing designers

You are AH-MAZING.

Bumping for @10ofRods

Thank you so much. Truthfully, this is all pretty bewildering and you are the only person I can find anywhere on the internet who knows so much. I knew there was way more to think about.

Is that you on shopify?? (I don't mean the model in the mask - although that would be interesting - I mean - are you selling on shopify?)

 

[bears10]

I'm looking around for the same thing - regular cloth masks do not give enough protection for me at all (3% filtration if one layer, and most are only 2 layers, so probably 6%).

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers

Here are the results from that study:

Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

That's why people are using those shop rag/oil absorbent towels (which are now rather hard to find). And there's no way I have the skills to make one properly.

Someone could make and sell on Etsy!

Have you read the authors' update in response to covid? Also, the original study was funded by 3M, so...