Family dog kills owner in back yard in Broward

[Nore]

I love dogs but this is an unpredictable animal that causes death. It is in the breeding and no trainer can make the difference when it decides to attack.The woman was the owner not a neighbor and certainly the one to feed and bathe and generally care for it.

If it can do this to the master it can do this to anyone and at anytime. Life is fragile enough witout exposure to deadly animals. We wouldn't allow lions and tigers to live among us either.

Sense needs to be applied when dealing with certain breeds.

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Hi Concerned, you are so right!

 

[kazzbar]

The Diana Whipple case was absolutely disgusting.The perpetrators who owned those two dogs were low life .They were both fully aware that those dogs were crazy but did nothing to stop their behaviour. I believe a good dog owner knows if they have an aggressive dog. Dogs indicate their behaviour all the time,If an owner ignores these warnings it is at their own peril.Some breeds are more prone to aggression because man has bred them that way, to suit the purpose man desires. In the hands of the wrong owner any dog is dangerous but a large dog even more so. All dogs need to be kept in fenced yards, given love and attention. To treat a dog cruelly is only going to cause it to find it's natural aggression.

As my hubby says' the bigger the dog the bigger the bite'!

 

[Karole28]

Edited to add:

I now have a Great Dane (female) and I don't remember who posted on this thread that they believe them not to like children, let me state: Mine is completely devoted to children (I'm not adding the caveat that they need to be mine, she makes no distinction) and believes herself to be mother to them all. On the other hand, woe be unto anyone who tried to hurt one in front of her.

 

[IdahoMom]

Did animal control not pick the dog up??? What are the laws in your area? If both you and a neighbor have filed complaints and the dog is still allowed to run free, what will it take to have the animal impounded? Do you maybe need to call the police and make a report with them too? I wonder if it would help to tell animal control that if the dog attacks, you'll sue them for doing nothing to protect the public?

Nope! They didn't take the dog! This was the 2nd time I said something to them about that, too!:banghead: The first time, I didn't know the protocol. The guy gave the dog back to the owner and I asked him if he had the dog in his truck/van thingie. He said "No, I left it with the lady at the house. She said the dog doesn't belong to her and that she's just watching it (liar!)". It seemed kind of weird that they were just leaving it at that, so I said "Well, here's my business card with my contact information, if you need anything from me." In my opinion, the guy should have told me at the time that I could file a complaint or something. He knew the dog was menacing people, yet he returned the dog without even a slap on the wrist, imo.

I have called several times since, and gotten phone trees. Within a period of time, the truck/van thingie would be driving through my neighborhood, looking for it. Each time I have left detailed contact information, and I have never received a call like they were filling out a report or anything. With each call, I have said that my neighbors and I have called numerous times, and what is it going to take to get some resolution?? I have also said that I am keeping a record of my calls in case anything happens.

When I called again the other day, I did get a call back from a lady- that's when I got a bit of an attitude from her- when she said "Have you taken your neighbor to court?", etc? :banghead: I see animal control as a quasi-governmental agency that should be enforcing dog control laws....why should I have to go directly after my neighbor when they KNOW this is a problem? (There is some questionable activity taking place at the house the dog lives at and I have been concerned about retribution)

My hunch is that animal control is sympathetic to the breed, plus they have alot of pitbulls and pitbull mixes at their shelter. I don't know if they're trying to keep them in the home, rather than take them to the shelter, where they have difficulty adopting them out. (This is all assumption on my part) When I look at the website, it breaks my heart (http://www.idahohumanesociety.com/searchresults.php), but this is not my fault nor creation!! The dog has now threatened my daughter twice. It comes into my yard, and acts like it owns the place and we're afraid to even walk out our door! This has gone on long enough!

We live in a very nice neighborhood that's geared toward outdoor activities- we have several neighborhood parks, lots of walking paths, etc. People are out exercising all the time, and kids are playing at the parks. We can't have a dog menacing the people that live here.

This dog obviously has irresponsible owners, so you can't count on them to "fix" the situation. So you need to know the laws in your area and force the owners to act responsibly or they need to lose their dog.

We're going to make some more calls today. I did call the sheriff's office the other day when I hit what felt like a brick wall with the woman at animal control. The sheriff's department said they can't/won't come out unless the dog is threatening someone (in their face)- and that they will "shoot the dog" if it is attacking/threatening someone. I really think that it would be too late by that point.

I knew yesterday that I would need to put myself between the dog and my daughter if he went after her. I have no problem doing that but I really do not relish the idea of such a thing. :chicken: :sick: The fact of the matter is she was in OUR backyard, and the dog had no business being there- especially when he is barking and growling at her!!:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[kazzbar]

If the dog wanders off property here it is picked up and the owners fined. A very dim view is taken. Although from time to time I see dogs out of their yards.I took one to Animal rescue earlier this year.What a dear little fellow he was but I have two bow Wow boys already. So he was taken to the shelter as I could see he would get run over if left. The neighbours over the road have a Boxer that jumps fences and I have returned her a few times. I hate irresponsible dog owners as they spoil it for the good ones. Good luck with your dog problems.I hope it gets sorted out.

 

[IdahoMom]

I don't know if I would get a different result if I called the Boise Police Dept vs Ada County Sheriff, but I will call a policeman I know and get his advice. It looks like at this point, we're going to court! I really resent that it has come to this.

 

[Pharlap]

OMG 120pds. I had no clue what they looked like so did a google.
To me there not nice looking. Each to there own I guess.
This site is not like the one a few posts up.....:angel:

http://www.pets4you.com/presa.html

 

[cheko1]

When I was a kid some people had St Bernards meaner then heck......had them in a pen. A friend & I were walking home from school /she went to go her way / I was a block or so away & I heard screams, blood curdling screams.

I went running home for my life...I was 7 yrs old. The St Bernard attacked her & would of killed her had someone not of come by to distract the dog.....she got 500 plus stitches......it was horrible....the dogs were put to sleep...but she will carry the scars from that attack as long as she lives...to this day I am terrified of any big dog.

 

[cheko1]

I don't know if I would get a different result if I called the Boise Police Dept vs Ada County Sheriff, but I will call a policeman I know and get his advice. It looks like at this point, we're going to court! I really resent that it has come to this.

IdahoMom,
Can you contact a TV News reporter? Tell them how animal control is handling this situation & ask them to do a news report on it? I'd tell animal control if that dog goes after my daughter 1 more time your going to file a lawsuit against them for failure to do their jobs that this is ridiculous!

 

[raisincharlie]

No one could love animals anymore than I do - let me state that first. Have I ever been "afraid" of one? No. But then I know how to avoid such situations or prevent them from happening. How's that? Using good old common sense.

1. Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person.
2. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog.
3. The owner most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.
4. [font=Arial,Helvetica]Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. [/font]
[font=Arial,Helvetica]5. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack. [/font]


I do not believe in breed-specific banning, unless we're talking about the two legged perverts of my own species.

I once had an unusual encounter with a pit bull and I must say I wasn't sure of the dog's intent throughout the encounter until the end. I entered an old building, legally and on invitation, a former shoe factory to be revitialized for housing. I was alone, upon entering I heard a noise behind me. I turned to see a rather large blond pit bull following not far behind. I said nothing and made no move toward the dog, just turned and continued walking and looking, basically ignoring the dog.

This dog followed me everywhere I went but never made any intimidating sound or movement. Being a horse trainer I have developed the habit of humming and singing while riding very young and skittish horses - I toured this facility humming and occasionally singing - before I left the building the dog was actually walking beside me. I never made any effort at direct communication or physical contact with this dog while inside the building.

I freely admit I was wondering what the dog was doing and can't say I was exactly comfortable with a large pit bull following me but I did just go about my way trying to pretend the dog didn't matter and humming away. The short of it, this dog never made any attempt to demonstrate dominance, alert ,or aggression of any kind, he simply kept pace with me and followed me and on occasion walked beside me. I do believe had I made any move to shoo him away or had I shown any aggression or outright fear it could have turned to a bad situation quickly.

Eventually the owner of the building showed up in a fright - he was very apologetic as he had failed to warn me of the dog and to confine the dog before I got there. Once outside the building I did end up petting this dog and speaking with him - turned out to be a very nice dog. Like you - I believe in much of what you posted - especially the last sentence !!! Good post !

 

[PaperDoll]

I say, impound the dog owner along with the dog... I love animals and they don't have common sense, they go on their natural instinct and it's up to the owners to train them and keep them in check... All animals are innocent until human hands get a hold of them... hehe Well, some human hands.. I find a lot of humans are pretty loving to their animals

 

[IdahoMom]

Eventually the owner of the building showed up in a fright - he was very apologetic as he had failed to warn me of the dog and to confine the dog before I got there. Once outside the building I did end up petting this dog and speaking with him - turned out to be a very nice dog. Like you - I believe in much of what you posted - especially the last sentence !!! Good post !

Thanks for sharing your story, raisincharlie. I agree you can't judge a dog by it's breed, but I draw the line when it starts growling and barking when we are on our own property. The local humane society's website has lots of pitbulls on it available for adoption. I am the first to say I feel sorry for the dogs, and I hope they find good, loving, attentive homes.

 

[Floh]

I say, impound the dog owner along with the dog...

Couldn't that be called 'kidnapping'?

this is a truly ridiculous story in that the animal welfare people appear to be doing nothing at all to keep the neighbourhood safe! :banghead:

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks for sharing your story, raisincharlie. I agree you can't judge a dog by it's breed, but I draw the line when it starts growling and barking when we are on our own property. The local humane society's website has lots of pitbulls on it available for adoption. I am the first to say I feel sorry for the dogs, and I hope they find good, loving, attentive homes.

IdahoMom - the situation you are confronted with is without doubt a perilous one, trust me, no disrespect meant. I hope that you can get a resolution. It is rather obvious that the persons who own this dog fail themselves, their animal, and their neighbors on every level - there should be a special island for folks such as this IMO. It also seems the city has failed to provide basic elements necessary to both prevent and correct such situations - shame on them. I hope things work out okay, you've made great effort to do the right thing.

I too feel sorry for the dogs. In honesty I can say that my encounter was most likely very lucky in terms of result and most likely not quite the norm, the dog wasn't formally trained as a watch dog nor was the dog mistreated - lucky for me is what I came away with...

Hope all goes well !

 

[IdahoMom]

IdahoMom - the situation you are confronted with is without doubt a perilous one, trust me, no disrespect meant. I hope that you can get a resolution. It is rather obvious that the persons who own this dog fail themselves, their animal, and their neighbors on every level - there should be a special island for folks such as this IMO. It also seems the city has failed to provide basic elements necessary to both prevent and correct such situations - shame on them. I hope things work out okay, you've made great effort to do the right thing.

I too feel sorry for the dogs. In honesty I can say that my encounter was most likely very lucky in terms of result and most likely not quite the norm, the dog wasn't formally trained as a watch dog nor was the dog mistreated - lucky for me is what I came away with...

Hope all goes well !

Thanks!
It sounds like the dog you encountered wanted a little companionship and I think that's sweet.

You are right about the failings taking place here. The most glaring, in my opinion, is that of the neighbors', who have thumbed their noses at everyone around them. Like I said before, I really resent having to push this to the point that we have to go to court.

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks!
It sounds like the dog you encountered wanted a little companionship and I think that's sweet.

You are right about the failings taking place here. The most glaring, in my opinion, is that of the neighbors', who have thumbed their noses at everyone around them. Like I said before, I really resent having to push this to the point that we have to go to court.

Is Alcatraz still active or is it just a tourist visit now ? Seems as though your neighbors are in dire need of such an island. I can't understand why no one in a position of authority has tried to get some form of resolution to this for you. That absolutely boggles my mind - court of all things. Crazy. I hope your other neighbors who have been subjected to this situation or have witnessed it will make every effort to attend court with you.

Still shaking head...

 

[IdahoMom]

Is Alcatraz still active or is it just a tourist visit now ? Seems as though your neighbors are in dire need of such an island. I can't understand why no one in a position of authority has tried to get some form of resolution to this for you. That absolutely boggles my mind - court of all things. Crazy. I hope your other neighbors who have been subjected to this situation or have witnessed it will make every effort to attend court with you.

Still shaking head...

They will! The neighbor directly across the street from me is filing her own complaint today, and I think the lady next door to her is going to as well.

I was worried about retribution, but there is strength in numbers and it will be hard for the dog owners to act like this is a personal thing.

Like I said before, I truly believe that animal control is sympathetic to the breed. When I told the officer last night that the owner is actually worse than the dog, she nodded her head approvingly.

 

[raisincharlie]

They will! The neighbor directly across the street from me is filing her own complaint today, and I think the lady next door to her is going to as well.

I was worried about retribution, but there is strength in numbers and it will be hard for the dog owners to act like this is a personal thing.

Like I said before, I truly believe that animal control is sympathetic to the breed. When I told the officer last night that the owner is actually worse than the dog, she nodded her head approvingly.

Glad to hear your neighbors will stand with you !

Something very sad:

http://www.ozarksnow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061024/NEWS01/610240390

I absolutely hate this, it infuriates me and makes me absolutely crazy.

 

[eastender]

I'm no expert, but I don't believe talking nice is the way to avoid being attacked. They have to fear you. You're right though. If they sense fear on your, you're a gonner.

I breed little cuddly shih-tzus but also own bullmastiffs, I am not scared of dogs but know enough to know that if a dog is not subservient to its master it is subservient to no human. Some dogs think they are "above" humans and it these that attack. I am cautious of any dog I dont know. I once saw a white german shepherd attack a customer in my shop and bite her in the stomach for no reason whatsoever, she was just walking past it.
A baby was killed in the UK a couple of weeks ago by her grandmas 2 rotties who guarded their pub.

 

[Floh]

A baby was killed in the UK a couple of weeks ago by her grandmas 2 rotties who guarded their pub.

I remember that story about Cadey-Lee Deacon.

Read about 14 month-old Harvey Lawrence :

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article1771846.ece

The attack on Harvey came three days after five-month-old Cadey-Lee Deacon was mauled to death by two rottweilers in Leicester.

thank goodness for 66 year old Mike Pepper who hit the dog with a hammer to rescue Harvey.

Neighbour Mike Pepper was up a ladder outside his home when he heard screams coming from the front garden of a house around 400 yards away.
Mr Pepper said he grabbed a hammer and hit the animal repeatedly over the head in an attempt to subdue it before carrying Harvey into the kitchen.
"I knew something was wrong, particularly as a rottweiler was involved," the 66-year-old added. "So I got hold of a hammer, and I went down the road and up the driveway of their home. I could see the grandmother was over the boy in the front garden, shielding him from further attack.
"The dog was still trying to get to the boy ... I kept shouting at the dog to get away and I hit it on the head with the hammer. Fortunately it backed off, so I turned my attention to the boy, who was covered in blood and had some really nasty facial injuries."
Mr Pepper said Harvey had suffered injuries to both sides of his face and body, and also had bites on the back of his neck.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1881976,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1

Dog owners must be responsible for controlling their animals.