Family launches new 'find Madeleine' advertising campaign

[poco]

??? - why are they allowed to use the monies from the fund to do this?? IF they truly were involved with Maddy's disappearance/death, they can start another HUGE FIND MADDIE campaign, appear to be caring distraught parents, yet not a single $ comes out of their pocket.

I can tell you this - if one of my children went missing I would move heaven and earth to try to find them - the rest of my life would be spent trying to find out what happened to them - and it would have started from the day they went missing, not four months later.

 

[mjak]

I agree, and it sounds to me like they or the publicist/team McCann want the heat taken off them, so are doing whatever they can to distract any more attention to themselves, that is my opinion of course.

And.. this to me is a huge red flag. If these people had nothing to do with thier childs dissapearance they only thing they would want the heat on is the ongoing physical searchs for Maddie. This campagin is about put the spotlight on Maddies face instead of their own. Its not about finding Maddie. We are way past the need for spreading Maddies picture and story that has been done. Why are then not spending all that Money on actually search attempts??? RED FLAG

mjak

 

[mjak]

As to what they should be doing some of the suggestions may not be possible anyway because of Portugal laws. They can't hire a private investigator. Would Tim Miller be allowed there or be willing? Didn't he need special permission in Aruba? Where should they look?

Don't forget the McCanns are using experts and consultants to tell them what they should be doing and the main focus all along has been to keep Madeleine's story in the media. I can't fault them for that.

There is absolutly the issue of what they can do legally. However, what attempts have they made to find ways around the laws or work within them?

mjak

 

[KOOL LOOK]

There is no law prohibiting ground grid searches, the Mccanns own money to search for their own daughter, I haven't seen a command center, searches other than when they found a towel or something that appeared to be a blanket and did only that after a tip.

We all know, after the many searches we've seen in the last several years, these grid, person to person searches work. I recall many people being found. It's proven to work, why it's not being utilized tells me a lot.

Several high profile professionals, not to mention experienced parents like ed smart, have offered their services only to be denied. There is a successful proven method and technique to these searches, and their not being done, never have been.

With the length of time that has already past, every building in that area should have been searched. Volunteers would help. I see no pleas, from the Mccanns reaching out to the public. Other than to say, find Madeliene.

What kind of search is that? Why haven't they looked themselves? No excuse! The only cases I've personally witnessed where the close parties weren't involved in the searches, they turned out to be the perps.

 

[april4sky]

Of course IF they are found to have killed her themselves, it was all a fraud. But there's no serious evidence they did kill her, yet so many people are now acting as if there is.

How am I being unfair by pointing out that people here seem to have already convicted this family when even the forensic experts admit they don't have anything on them? It's just a hate-fest, and I don't really get why. It seems so overdone. It's no longer enough to call them idiots, but every move they make is now posted on here as signs of ten different kinds of ignorance and guilt. I'm starting to wonder if you're even reading the same news, you're so far out with some of your "analysis".

Yes, they seem to be jackasses, and they certainly hired a very, very bad PR person. But a lot of you guys all seem to think you would know so much more about how to handle this kind of situation. I just don't understand why any of you think that you would do one bit better in the same horrible circumstances.

Shrinky

Absolutely right Shrinky.

It really has become a case with some of damned if they do and damned if they don't. There's no logic to it. No matter which course the McCanns take it is always deemed the wrong one.
I'm damned if I understand it.

 

[englishleigh]

There have even been sightings of children in other countries near Portugal that were believed to possibly be Maddie and they just dismissed them. If you really wanted to find your daughter (or didn't already KNOW it couldn't be her), wouldn't you be traveling to these countries to check these sightings out by talking to police there, talking to the people who reported the sighting, etc?? Or at the VERY, VERY least, you wouldn't be pooh-poohing these sightings as not credible or not important as they did. A whole new "Find Madeleine" ad campaign in the face of not even caring about possible sightings of your child makes no sense.

 

[BethyC]

I quite agree with Shrinky -- folks need to set aside feelings and emotions with this case. The PJ have backed off with their 'evidence' lately cuz they don't really have any -- much of their tactic has been 'leaks' to their press -- their case against the McCann's has been based on rumor.

Can we please go back to being level-headed sleuths and spend more time on actual evidence and facts?

Thanks!!

 

[englishleigh]

I quite agree with Shrinky -- folks need to set aside feelings and emotions with this case. The PJ have backed off with their 'evidence' lately cuz they don't really have any -- much of their tactic has been 'leaks' to their press -- their case against the McCann's has been based on rumor.

Can we please go back to being level-headed sleuths and spend more time on actual evidence and facts?

Thanks!!

I'm terribly sorry, it's a very emotional case for most of us, so you will just have to deal with that.

 

[CaliKid]

Of course IF they are found to have killed her themselves, it was all a fraud. But there's no serious evidence they did kill her, yet so many people are now acting as if there is.

How am I being unfair by pointing out that people here seem to have already convicted this family when even the forensic experts admit they don't have anything on them? It's just a hate-fest, and I don't really get why. It seems so overdone. It's no longer enough to call them idiots, but every move they make is now posted on here as signs of ten different kinds of ignorance and guilt. I'm starting to wonder if you're even reading the same news, you're so far out with some of your "analysis".

Yes, they seem to be jackasses, and they certainly hired a very, very bad PR person. But a lot of you guys all seem to think you would know so much more about how to handle this kind of situation. I just don't understand why any of you think that you would do one bit better in the same horrible circumstances.

Shrinky

First of all, do not tell me I am participating in an "overdone hate-fest" of the McCanns, because I'm not. I am totally respectful of the McCanns and have been from the first. I just don't believe they're telling the truth about what happened to Madeleine.

As I'm sure you're aware, some people do get away with murder because they don't make mistakes (leave evidence) in committing the crime. They can't be tried, but that doesn't make them any less guilty. My belief in the McCanns' guilt or innocence is based on more than just forensics, it's based on how they've behaved since day one. This is at least the third so-called push by the McCanns to find Madeleine, and my opinion is that it's major goal is deflecting the public from their guilt. I have seen them do the same thing before.

And I would never find myself in the same horrible circumstances since I wouldn't leave my children alone in the first place or overdose my daughter on sedatives to keep her out of my way so I could party.

 

[Rino]

I quite agree with Shrinky -- folks need to set aside feelings and emotions with this case. The PJ have backed off with their 'evidence' lately cuz they don't really have any -- much of their tactic has been 'leaks' to their press -- their case against the McCann's has been based on rumor.

Can we please go back to being level-headed sleuths and spend more time on actual evidence and facts?

Thanks!!

There have been many facts in which most of us discuss but you have a blind eye and deaf ear when it comes to anything not pretty about them.

I don't think that your playing sleauth at all, you're playing defense attorney. You sure seem to think they need one

 

[BloodshotEye]

Weird.
I don't feel like I should have to "set aside feelings and emotions with this case". We have news reports; some accurate some inaccurate, we are free to make some assumptions or not. It is pretty much a given, that we are all expressing opinions, based on whatever. The phase of the moon, the recent headlines, and personal experience.

So, no...I don't feel like I should have to set aside "feelings and emotions".

No "serious evidence" that the parents killed her? A qualifier here - it's all serious to me. But yup. For the most part, we know that our opinions based on various news sources, is not going to win a court case. Difficult at this stage of the case, to separate out the facts from mis-statements. Most of us are crystal clear, that opinions do not hold up in a court of law. So what. This is a forum to express and discuss opinions.

And as such, I shouldn't have to defend my opinions, at every corner. If I want to say that I believe the McCann's are martians, so be it. Good for me. A bit psycho ;]... but good for me. People are more than welcome to disagree with me, and say I am a bit loony (big surprise there); but I really don't want to have someone to admonish me, and say "that's not nice" and "You really shouldn't think that way".

We post our opinions, and chat about the latest news. I ain't interested in hearing someone suggest to me exactly what parameters I should use, and which of the 5 (6?) senses I should exclude while forming my opinion.

On to the news links...

 

[narlacat]

I quite agree with Shrinky -- folks need to set aside feelings and emotions with this case. The PJ have backed off with their 'evidence' lately cuz they don't really have any -- much of their tactic has been 'leaks' to their press -- their case against the McCann's has been based on rumor.

Can we please go back to being level-headed sleuths and spend more time on actual evidence and facts?

Thanks!!

I agree too- getting carried away emotionally isn't helping anyone, yes let's stick to the facts please- and dispel with the rumours...

Why would it make anyone feel like they are helping with solving a case when they are just making stuff up- where are all the real sleuths?

 

[STEADFAST]

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...+searching+madeleine&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us



Dave Shelton from Manchester, who now lives in the village, has been working with the police to co-ordinate volunteer searchers.
He told BBC News that a group of up to 20 locals and tourists were searching an area around the village, concentrating on ruins, wells and bushes.


He said: "Every morning at eight I go to see the police chief and he decides where we go and gives us our little zone, plus a map.
"We go off and do that area and then report back and tell him we have done the area so he can tick it off." (May 8th)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6644615.stm



Police with dogs searched the McCann's apartment again on Thursday evening, while the family chose to remain at a police station outside the Algarve town.


Police said it is the final time they will search the block to look for clues. The wider search in the area will end in the next few days. . .



On scaling back the ground search, he said police and volunteers had searched a 200sq-km (77sq-mile) area - and some locations more than once.


Mr Sousa insisted he was doing everything he could to find the little girl, but so far from the ground search "the results are zero". (May 10)


So it looks like there WAS a systematic ground search of quite a large area. Maybe the McCanns don't (or didn't) realize that just because Madeleine wasn't found in these searches doesn't mean she isn't around there somewhere.



ETA I posted this in the wrong thread. (Should be in the thread about Were there any searches?) It's getting hard to tell which thread I'm in anymore!

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

First of all, do not tell me I am participating in an "overdone hate-fest" of the McCanns, because I'm not. I am totally respectful of the McCanns and have been from the first. I just don't believe they're telling the truth about what happened to Madeleine
...snip...
And I would never find myself in the same horrible circumstances since I wouldn't leave my children alone in the first place or overdose my daughter on sedatives to keep her out of my way so I could party.

I think Shrinkydink is referring to comments like this when expressing her concern for fairness to the family. There is absolutely no proof that the McCanns overdosed their daughter and if you where being respectful to the McCanns as you say you are, you would not have written this. She is missing, and no autopsy has been done to determine a cause, (if any) of death. How do you know she was overdosed?


This forum is quite amusing to read though, and this thread had me laughing out loud. Last week, I gave my theory of what happened to Maddie, and more than one flame was thrown my way. (Though my theory is quite morbid, and unfortunately posted in an incorrect thread, it was clearly labeled MY THEORY, which is loosely based on the few known facts). One poster even had to gall to correct me by saying that information I had wasn't accurate, because she was the one who originally posted the inaccurate info...:waitasec:

 

[SleuthMom]

This forum is quite amusing to read though, and this thread had me laughing out loud.

Wow, you surely have an interesting type of humor. I find nothing about Crime to be amusing at all...not to the point of laughing out loud either.

 

[Rino]

I think Shrinkydink is referring to comments like this when expressing her concern for fairness to the family. There is absolutely no proof that the McCanns overdosed their daughter and if you where being respectful to the McCanns as you say you are, you would not have written this. She is missing, and no autopsy has been done to determine a cause, (if any) of death. How do you know she was overdosed?


This forum is quite amusing to read though, and this thread had me laughing out loud. Last week, I gave my theory of what happened to Maddie, and more than one flame was thrown my way. (Though my theory is quite morbid, and unfortunately posted in an incorrect thread, it was clearly labeled MY THEORY, which is loosely based on the few known facts). One poster even had to gall to correct me by saying that information I had wasn't accurate, because she was the one who originally posted the inaccurate info...:waitasec:

I went back an read your theory based soley on your guesses, opinions and whims with nothing more concrete than others have based their thoughts on - all the while accusing the parents of awful behavior.

Yet you laugh at others? Why is your fiction to be taken any more seriously :waitasec: I think you just like to shock, jmo.....

 

[colomom]

I quite agree with Shrinky -- folks need to set aside feelings and emotions with this case. The PJ have backed off with their 'evidence' lately cuz they don't really have any -- much of their tactic has been 'leaks' to their press -- their case against the McCann's has been based on rumor.

Can we please go back to being level-headed sleuths and spend more time on actual evidence and facts?

Thanks!!

I agree too- getting carried away emotionally isn't helping anyone, yes let's stick to the facts please- and dispel with the rumours...

Why would it make anyone feel like they are helping with solving a case when they are just making stuff up- where are all the real sleuths?

I have an idea and I am sincere about this...

Why don't you open a thread called Discussion-Facts Only? I am sure the rest of the forum would honor the spirit of such a thread.

I would be very interested in watching how such a thread would develop.

As for me, I cannot help who I am as a person that definitely follows my gut instinct and responds to my emotions. As members of the human family I think it is very important that we let people be people.

 

[SleuthMom]

I have an idea and I am sincere about this...

Why don't you open a thread called Discussion-Facts Only? I am sure the rest of the forum would honor the spirit of such a thread.

I can imagine a conversation in that thread. Opening thread:

Fact: Madeleine is missing
Fact: Parents made official suspects

Next message: "I wonder how she disappeared? Maybe a kidnapper took her or her parents are involved?"

NO, let us NOT speculate but stick to the facts. Next!

Next message: The parents were made official suspects, if they are involved in her disappearance, do you all think maybe they killed her?

NO, we cannot spread rumors or speculate, let us stick to the facts. Next! And goes on...

:doh:

If such a thread every exist you will have the opening thread with the few facts and NOTHING else, get the idea?

 

[Texana]

Shortest thread, ever.

Fact: Gerry and Kate McCann, both doctors on vacation in Portugal, left their three young children (ages 3 1/2 and 2) alone in a resort room from the hours of 8:45 p.m. (approximately) to 10:00 p.m. (approximately.)

Oh wait, we could make it longer with facts about their hometown, where they did their medical training, when they were married, how they overcame infertility with IVF.

Maybe a few more facts about their families, including the occupations of each member.

I bet it gets most number of views, ever on this forum.

 

[colomom]

Well since we have been requested by a number of poster to only discuss facts......let's see.....

Might be interesting.

It can always be deleted later....no harm done.