Fencesitters & Not Guilty Post Here - THREAD NO. 2

[Shazza]

In one of the other threads in this forum wasnt the mirror said to be a rag newspaper, can we trust the story printed about stopping the witch hunt in Aprils Post.

I am not saying that it is true or false, what I am asking is "Is the UK mirror a reliable source for information or are they just out to sell more papers".

I wish we knew one way or the other what happened to Madelaine and where she is.

 

[Texana]

Any "private" photos of the McCanns such as Communion or wedding or family pics of Madeleine absolutely come with their approval and knowledge--especially when the friends being interviewed are named and quoted directly.

Giving out the photos without the McCanns' approval would be tantamount to ending any friendship or relationship.

But again, you can't have it both ways. You can't withdraw under the "talking about me will hurt Madeleine" umbrella when someone asks details about that night, or about the allegations against you, and then whip out a wedding photo.

A wedding photo in which you are, conveniently holding and smiling at a baby.

This isn't about finding Madeleine, it's about keeping the twins and staying out of some Portuguese prison.

 

[SleuthMom]

I suppose everything boils down to how much you trust the Portuguese police.
I believe these people have been trained to perform the kind of job they do every single day. So if based on their investigation and research, they find that there is a big possibility that Madeleine is not alive but dead then they need to follow that lead, that's common sense to me.

 

[april4sky]

In one of the other threads in this forum wasnt the mirror said to be a rag newspaper, can we trust the story printed about stopping the witch hunt in Aprils Post.

I am not saying that it is true or false, what I am asking is "Is the UK mirror a reliable source for information or are they just out to sell more papers".

I wish we knew one way or the other what happened to Madelaine and where she is.

Hi Sazza,

The Mirror is a tabloid. But no more or less a "rag" as you put it than any other tabloid.

The article is just one journalists "opinion" of what has been happening to the McCann's with the result being that the real crime and the real tragedy is that nobody is looking for Madeleine McCann anymore.


An opinion I fully agree with.

 

[Shazza]

Hi Sazza,

The Mirror is a tabloid. But no more or less a "rag" as you put it than any other tabloid.

The article is just one journalists "opinion" of what has been happening to the McCann's with the result being that the real crime and the real tragedy is that nobody is looking for Madeleine McCann anymore.


An opinion I fully agree with.

It sure does look like Madelaine has been put on the back burner, if she was my daughter I would still be out there hunting high and low.
I hope this isnt one of those cases that goes on and on and on and find nothing.
I have had a big day and very tired, so I will catch you later April.

 

[april4sky]

I suppose everything boils down to how much you trust the Portuguese police.
I believe these people have been trained to perform the kind of job they do every single day. So if based on their investigation and research, they find that there is a big possibility that Madeleine is not alive but dead then they need to follow that lead, that's common sense to me.

Do you mean they should only follow the one "lead" ? Because there's a big possibility she's dead but no proof!!
And if they are wrong. Poor Madeleine.

I don't think so.

 

[Rino]

End this witch hunt and find Madeleine

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/column...witch-hunt-and-find-madeleine-89520-19801006/

The real crime and the real tragedy is that nobody is looking for Madeleine McCann anymore.
That little girl is out there somewhere, either dead or alive.

That could be said for the McCanns as well.

The author of this piece admits "I don't believe for one second that they did it. If they did, then they are the greatest actors who ever lived."

Hmmm, no media bias here right? He's completely objective - not!!

 

[Jdee]

Sounds like both to me but I have been much the same way. One day I think the McCann's are guilty then the next I don't. I know they lied about some things that happened that night. I don't think they really ever actually looked for their daughter. We discussed this in the very first thread why when it was reported that Madeleine was in Morroco didn't they hire teenagers to passout flyers in Morroco? They had plenty of money to do so. So that makes me wonder. But if they did it I can't fathom hiding the body for so many days or killing her then going out to eat and chat it up with friends or hanging with the Pope.
Just too much wierd stuff here.... and no answers and no Madeleine.

 

[christine2448]

This is a discussion, attack the posts, not the poster. Everything is open for dicussion. Everyone's opinions will be heard.

Start getting along or some of you are going to be sitting in the corner for a few days.

 

[april4sky]

BODY OF GIRL, 5, FOUND

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19495/Body-of-girl-5-found


THE body of a missing five-year-old girl whose abduction was linked by police to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been discovered in a forest in Switzerland.


Ylenia Llenard was snatched from a public swimming pool in the Swiss town of Appenzell on July 31.
--------
Very sad. The perp involved in this was in the Algarve at the same time as the McCanns.

 

[SleuthMom]

I do not see the connection between this girl and Maddie's disappearance at all. No serious link was ever connected.

Do you mean they should only follow the one "lead" ? Because there's a big possibility she's dead but no proof!!

I say follow the lead that the professionals (police) who have been investigating and working on this case) consider that should be followed. THEY are the ones working on this case. There is NO proof that she was kidnapped either.

We are speaking about Police resources here and I am sure there are limited so I trust the police will follow the lead based on their investigations. Since the Mc Canns have been named official suspects, it is within the rights of the Police to follow that lead.

 

[AfterMidnight]

LE might want to find out if Urs Von Aesch, the perp in the Swiss case, rented the car before the McCanns.

 

[christine2448]

I do not see the connection between this girl and Maddie's disappearance at all. No serious link was ever connected.

Is this the link, the abductor was same place/time as the McCanns?

Police later discovered he had been on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared in May.

 

[docwho3]

Someone asked what the connection could be between a body in Switzerland and this case so here is one connection which I have bolded:

". . . The body of a missing five-year-old girl whose abduction was linked by police to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been discovered in a forest in Switzerland. . ."

". . . It was uncovered by a passer-by between Oberbren and Niederwil on Saturday. It had apparently been dug up by wild animals. Von Aesch is thought to have shot a man who challenged him shortly after he buried the body, then turned the gun on himself. Police later discovered he had been on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared in May. . ."
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19495/Body-of-girl-5-found

Note: I added the bolding in the quote.

If this were any other case people would be quite interested in this apparent "coincidence" of a person we now know has killed a 5 years old having been on vacation at the same place and at the same time that little 3 years old Madeleine goes missing. Personally I want to see more of this possibility looked into by L.E.

 

[christine2448]

LE might want to find out if Urs Von Aesch, the perp in the Swiss case, rented the car before the McCanns.

What are the chances??? Wouldn't that be something?? OMG, I just don't know what I am hoping the out come to be, parents or abductor, overdosed or molested, it's horrible, both, but I hope a molestor didn't get her..or has her, or killed her.

Has anyone researched this guy? I haven't heard of this other girl till now, or if I have, I don't remember Is this truly a possibility?

 

[christine2448]

Someone asked what the connection could be between a body in Switzerland and this case so here is one connection which I have bolded:

". . . The body of a missing five-year-old girl whose abduction was linked by police to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been discovered in a forest in Switzerland. . ."

". . . It was uncovered by a passer-by between Oberbren and Niederwil on Saturday. It had apparently been dug up by wild animals. Von Aesch is thought to have shot a man who challenged him shortly after he buried the body, then turned the gun on himself. Police later discovered he had been on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared in May. . ."
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19495/Body-of-girl-5-found

Note: I added the bolding in the quote.

If this were any other case people would be quite interested in this apparent "coincidence" of a person we now know has killed a 5 years old having been on vacation at the same place and at the same time that little 3 years old Madeleine goes missing. Personally I want to see more of this possibility looked into by L.E.

We were posting at the same time...I agree if this coincendence is there, this should certianly be investigated fully...shall we start a thread and see what our posters can come up with

 

[christine2448]

We were posting at the same time...I agree if this coincendence is there, this should certianly be investigated fully...shall we start a thread and see what our posters can come up with

Thread here

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1688619#post1688619

 

[Rino]

We were posting at the same time...I agree if this coincendence is there, this should certianly be investigated fully...shall we start a thread and see what our posters can come up with

(snip)
Investigating officers said they had reopened several cases of missing children dating from the 1980s in Switzerland.

They refused, however, to confirm reports in Swiss newspapers that there could be a link between the disappearance of Ylenia and British girl Madeleine McCann, who was reported missing in Portugal in May.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22429527-12377,00.html


This man was a monster, maybe many times over. Still looking for a possible link to Maddie.....

 

[docwho3]

We were posting at the same time...I agree if this coincendence is there, this should certianly be investigated fully...shall we start a thread and see what our posters can come up with

Good idea. Thanks for starting the new thread.

Lumping a couple of your posts together and responding in this one post- hope you don't mind:

. . .OMG, I just don't know what I am hoping the out come to be, parents or abductor, overdosed or molested, it's horrible, both, but I hope a molestor didn't get her..or has her, or killed her. . .

I know what you mean. I don't hope it is either possibility as I suppose neither of us really "hopes" either bad thing happened but we know the probabilities are that something bad really happened and it is hard to figure which possibility is the most likely. This case keeps getting farther into the twilight zone.

 

[SleuthMom]

Thanks for the info guys. It is a possibility but a weak one in my opinion (compared to what it seems they found in the Mc Cann's car) unless the police can find something more.