GUILTY FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 *shooter Guilty, School officer NG* #5

  • #281
So sad as this guy does not get the max penalty for 17 killed...so many injuries and now already breaking news from Raleigh shooter on loose...5 or 6 dead so far...at large. This country is out of control.
 
  • #282
I am not shocked ...tensions were high and this juror must have given out this vibe early on. This can happen. I never thought 12 would agree...surprised it is only one.This will go nowhere and wonder how media got a hold of this. I was stunned that judge named each of the jurors so anyone can go back and figure out who this is.. Would not want to be her and I think she has a valid complaint against court and media for this info getting out and her last name being said in open court.
Totally!!
 
  • #283
The vote ended up to be 9-3...one hard no and two that joined her. The foreperson gave a short interview.
 
  • #284
The vote ended up to be 9-3...one hard no and two that joined her. The foreperson gave a short interview.

Here's an article/video

 
  • #285
Foreman interview

 
  • #286
Personally, I feel that the killer was a victim as well. Him, being on death row for the next 25 years won't bring any of these victims back to life.

Maybe, what should be looked at, is how to prevent this from happening again. Mental health resources in schools, more direct contact with Mental health professionals actually in schools, might have done more good that the school resource officer who hid behind a column during the rampage, and retired with a full pension.
 
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  • #288
I would have voted for the death penalty for the sake of the victims' families and because ' Justice needs to be "seen to have been done" by the public, which isn't the case here in my opinion. The verdict just re-traumatized the families all over again.
 
  • #289
I would have voted for the death penalty for the sake of the victims' families and because ' Justice needs to be "seen to have been done" by the public, which isn't the case here in my opinion. The verdict just re-traumatized the families all over again.
It did. The entire trial seemed pointless actually as he pled guilty.
 
  • #290
Well, that one juror had to really have the courage of their convictions, to hold out against 11 other jurors, it would have been so easy to have gone with the majority especially when one looks at the crimes he committed, but I saw plenty of mitigating factors that meant I wouldn't have voted for DP

I though would never be on a jury where the DP was an issue as I oppose the DP as a punishment for anybody, and am fortunate to live in a country where it has been abolished a long time ago,
 
  • #291
It did. The entire trial seemed pointless actually as he pled guilty.
I might be wrong, but for me the point of this trial was to take note of necessity of more mental health help for troubled children and teens.
Plus highlighting the extreme danger of drinking alcohol during pregnancy which causes irreparable damage to unborn children.

Even if only 1 woman takes notice - it was worthwhile, because it might prevent future tragedy.

I pray for the parents of victims to have the strenght to carry on living :(
 
  • #292
Well, that one juror had to really have the courage of their convictions, to hold out against 11 other jurors, it would have been so easy to have gone with the majority especially when one looks at the crimes he committed, but I saw plenty of mitigating factors that meant I wouldn't have voted for DP

I though would never be on a jury where the DP was an issue as I oppose the DP as a punishment for anybody, and am fortunate to live in a country where it has been abolished a long time ago,
Sadly this person went in with her mind set, she/he should NOT have been on that jury. And if this is then the first 'story' or book written, i'll know exactly why he/she wanted to be on the jury so bad.
 
  • #293
Are the potential jurors asked if they are for or against the DP before they are selected?

Seems silly to allow someone that is against the DP to be joror on a DP trial.

Jmo
 
  • #294
Can the prosecutor’s office ask for a new trial?
 
  • #295

Just got an alert for this. Prosecutors are asking for an investigation re: the jurors. Motions hearing today at 12:30 CST
 
  • #296
Prosecutors seek interview of juror after alleged threat by another juror in Nikolas Cruz sentencing trial


'Juror X' claims 'during deliberations she received what she perceived to be a threat from a fellow juror,' motion says

 
  • #297
What a mess. These poor families.
 
  • #298
Prosecutors seek interview of juror after alleged threat by another juror in Nikolas Cruz sentencing trial


'Juror X' claims 'during deliberations she received what she perceived to be a threat from a fellow juror,' motion says

ON THE day this happened why did she not go to someone right then? I guess that happened on Wed.??
 
  • #299
Are the potential jurors asked if they are for or against the DP before they are selected?

Seems silly to allow someone that is against the DP to be joror on a DP trial.

Jmo
during voir-dire process they are asked about DP and if they can impose it. My opinion is saying in theory "yes" is much different than actually doing that after seeing a defendant and hearing the mitigating factors. I think the accusations that she had her mind made up is unfair and probably unfounded unless someone can site exact statements made by this juror. And further this was 9-3 as two others after she stated LWOP joined her..clearly they may have been too intimidated at first but then joined. All of this for me points to DP needing to be abolished. It serves no purpose other than disasters like this.
 
  • #300
It did. The entire trial seemed pointless actually as he pled guilty.
I think the trial allowed the victims their day in court. They deserved it.

At the time this happened - people that were on campus but weren't even in the building made themselves the biggest victim of this. The real victims never got their say.
 

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