FL - 4 teen boys rape 13yr old boy in locker rm - Tampa, 2005

  • #21
Sickening. What happens to kids that they do this s**t? I will never understand. And when are schools going to get the message when they have a bullying situation they need to get on it hard. How many more kids are going to be seriously assaulted or even dead before the light bulb goes on? I feel so sad for this kid. I hope the four attackers get some of their own medicine.
 
  • #22
Oh my, I shouldn't have read this before breakfast.

I realize that sometimes we come here and are so rightfully filled with emotion and disgust that we vent hard and furious, but can we not be angry and saddened by what happened to this boy without actively wishing that four more young teenagers become rape victims?
 
  • #23
I swear. Every day I feel more and more inclined to Home School.
 
  • #24
Unbelievable! I don't understand how people can be so vile to one another and these are kids no less. Each time you think you have heard it all in comes another horrible incident for us parents to have to worry about. :(
 
  • #25
You know I sure hope they dont treat this differently because it happened to a boy and not a girl. I agree that this is rape and should be called as such.
 
  • #26
My understanding is that different states have different laws regarding what is "rape" and what is "sexual assault." These are legal terms and people are charged with the specific crime based on exactly what occurred.

I do not think any states have different legal terms for men and women when it comes to sexual offenses.
 
  • #27
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0794/ch0794.htm


CHAPTER 794 SEXUAL BATTERY



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) "Serious personal injury" means great bodily harm or pain, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement.
(h) "Sexual battery" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.
(i) "Victim" means a person who has been the object of a sexual offense.
(j) "Physically incapacitated" means bodily impaired or handicapped and substantially limited in ability to resist or flee.
(2)(a) A person 18 years of age or older who commits sexual battery upon, or in an attempt to commit sexual battery injures the sexual organs of, a person less than 12 years of age commits a capital felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082 and 921.141.
(b) A person less than 18 years of age who commits sexual battery upon, or in an attempt to commit sexual battery injures the sexual organs of, a person less than 12 years of age commits a life felony, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 794.0115.
(3) A person who commits sexual battery upon a person 12 years of age or older, without that person's consent, and in the process thereof uses or threatens to use a deadly weapon or uses actual physical force likely to cause serious personal injury commits a life felony, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 794.0115.
(4) A person who commits sexual battery upon a person 12 years of age or older without that person's consent, under any of the following circumstances, commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 794.0115:
(a) When the victim is physically helpless to resist.
(b) When the offender coerces the victim to submit by threatening to use force or violence likely to cause serious personal injury on the victim, and the victim reasonably believes that the offender has the present ability to execute the threat. (c) When the offender coerces the victim to submit by threatening to retaliate against the victim, or any other person, and the victim reasonably believes that the offender has the ability to execute the threat in the future.
 
  • #28
one of the suspects has a myspace. last login was today. grrr. :mad:
 
  • #29
There are no words. :shakehead:
 
  • #30
I swear. Every day I feel more and more inclined to Home School.

After reading this, I literally feel sick! What the h*ll are people/kids thinking nowadays? Bullying is bad enough and should have already been dealt with, but to sexually assault (or rape is a better word) another child is beyond sick!

Years ago in a small town near mine, there were 4 high school boys that raped a girl (close to their age). They used broom sticks on her and brace yourselves........bit her nipples off. :eek: Makes me hurt to think about it! She was never right mentally after that and she nearly bled to death. The boys all went to juvy and again brace yourself.....one later became a corrections officer (from what I was told). :eek:

Prayers for this little boy and his family.


LLL - my husband and I are about to adopt a little boy and I have told my husband that I seriously intend to home school. In order to be socially active, he can be active in church and outside activities (little league) where I can be present. By home schooling, at least I know that my child wouldn't be bullied and/or attacked at school. So sad!!!!!!! :mad:
 
  • #31
Bree0372 in a heart beat!!! If had it to do all over again in a heart beat. My niece homeschooled 3 boys ..fine young boys.. and she found alot of ways for socialzation. home schooling has came a long way. They have social groups just for hs kids.
 
  • #32
I don't believe that the school was just finding out about the bullying. They're just trying to cover their butts now. Remember the movie Carrie? I sometimes wish kids that were bullied would be given those powers just long enough to stop the bullying or at least get a little revenge. It may sound harsh but I was bullied in school (although not to this extent) and I know how painful it can be.

My children are both graduated from high school, but if I had any younger ones I would definitely home school them. The school system isn't looking out for the best interest of our children.
 
  • #33
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/ma...rape-suspects-release-was-book/news-breaking/

Officials say teen rape suspects' release was by the book !!!!

TAMPA - Public outcry has swirled around a judge's decision to release four teens accused of raping a 13-year-old boy to their parents, but authorities say the release was in accordance with the law.
The teens were released by Hillsborough Circuit Judge Christopher Sabella on May 7, a day after their arrest. :eek: They are now under electronic monitoring.
But even though the allegations against them are serious, the teens did not meet the legal criteria outlined in state statutes that would have kept them in a juvenile facility for at least 21 days, officials say.
"I understand the public reaction … but there's almost no legal basis to detain them, unless they're charged as adults," said John Skye, a spokesman for the Public Defender's Office, which is representing two of the youths.
The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office on May 6 charged Walker Middle School students Lee Louis Myers, 14, Raymond Price-Murray, 14, Randall John Moye, 14, and Diemante Roberts, 15, with sexual battery and false imprisonment.
The four are accused of raping a 13-year-old flag-football teammate in a school locker room April 30 using a broom handle and a hockey stick.
The boys have not returned to school since their arrest while the district determines where to place them, officials said.
Private attorneys for the other two boys could not be reached today. Neither could the boys' families or the family of the 13-year-old.
Sebella, citing judicial rules of conduct, declined to comment on the detention hearing. Assistant State Attorney Pam Bondi also declined to comment on the hearing but has said prosecutors intend to charge the four as adults.
State statutes prohibit a youth from being held under secure or home detention for longer than 24 hours without a court order. Each youth arrested undergoes a risk assessment by the state Department of Juvenile Justice where he or she is assigned points based on several factors.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Prosecutors and defense attorneys argue their positions at the hearing, much like at a bail hearing for an adult.
State Department of Juvenile Justice statistics for fiscal year 2006 to 2007 show that the most common length of stay in secure detention is two days. About 30 percent of youth held in detention are released within two days; about 53 percent are released within seven days, these statistics show.
Skye did not attend the detention hearing for the boys but said to his understanding, none of them has a serious prior criminal history and each of their homes is stable, two factors that would have contributed placing them on home detention.
The boys likely would have been ordered to have no contact with the 13-year-old, he said.
Richard Rolfes, chairman of the Hillsborough County Juvenile Justice Board, said secure detention would be considered if the boys had a history of trouble with the law.
"I was a little surprised they got out," said Rolfes, given the nature of the charges and the public outcry.
However, "If they're on house arrest with a monitor, where are they going to go? Everyone knows where they are," he said. "If the state attorney is going to charge them as adults, they'll be arrested again."

WTF!!!!!! :furious:
 
  • #34
What I don't understand is why, during a school-sponsored activity, are students left alone in the locker room, especially when it has been known for several months that bullying has been occurring. In this time, when so many of these crimes happens in the school, a teacher, or coach or some adult should be in the locker room. In my opinion, the school is at fault for not having a chaperone in the locker room because the school was fully aware of bullying. If I were the parents I would sue the school for damages. This poor boy will live with the consequences of this crime for the rest of his life. And the physical consequences will be short-loved when compared to the psychological consequences.
 
  • #35
ugh--what a horrible, vicious, violent thing to do. I'd like to know "why."
I'm glad they release the names and pictures of these creeps.

Ditto! If my child was in that school, I'd definitely want to know names & faces. I do NOT like the schools statement that these kids wouldn't be back "until their legal issues are resolved" :eek: How about expulsion for tormenting and violating another student?!?
 
  • #36
Ditto! If my child was in that school, I'd definitely want to know names & faces. I do NOT like the schools statement that these kids wouldn't be back "until their legal issues are resolved" :eek: How about expulsion for tormenting and violating another student?!?

I would think the school cannot make any final determination regarding these students because of the basic legal assumption that these four boys are innocent until proven guilty - therefore, the statement about "until their legal issues are resolved."

It is, of course, well within the school's discretion to not let them back on campus while serious legal charges are pending against them, and I am glad the school has taken that path.
 
  • #37
This is a textbook case of why bullying intervention has to happen sooner and the steps have to be measured and impactful. Imagine if the school had been able to sit down with children and parents with a clear set of responses after the first incident or two of bullying-not the attitude of "boys will be boys" but if they had said, we have zero tolerance and these are the steps we will be taking to protect the victim and to change the behavior of the children involved...and then these are the consequences if they do not toe the line. And follow through.

In my children's school, they have a specific program they follow and the attitude is zero tolerance. You will quickly lose your right to travel on the bus if the incidents happen there, and you will be accomodated outside of school if it persists inside the walls of the school. Period, end of story-and all of the parents know it.
 
  • #38
UPDATE

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/04/florida.sexual.assault/index.html?_s=PM:CRIME

Charged with four counts each of sexual battery were Randall John Moye, 14; Raymond A. Price-Murray, 14; Lee Louis Myers, 14; and Diamante J. Roberts, 15. CNN is naming the defendants because they were charged as adults.

Hillsborough County prosecutors allege the four boys raped the 13-year-old victim multiple times over two months with a broomstick and hockey stick.

Still searching for sentencing
 
  • #39
I am thoroughly disgusted!

http://tbo.com/news/judge-ends-probation-for-teen-in-walker-middle-assault-case-244906

The Florida Department of Juvenile Justice asked that Randall John Moye's probation be terminated three years early.

The agency said Moye, 16, successfully completed all the requirements of his probation: performing 100 hours of community service, undergoing counseling and writing a letter of apology to the victim in the case.

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Lee Myers, 16, agreed to enter a pretrial diversion program. All charges were dropped when he successfully completed it.

Diemante Roberts, 17, and Raymond Price-Murray, 16, pleaded guilty to third-degree felony battery and were placed on five year of probation. They also will have no criminal record if they follow the rules.
 
  • #40
:banghead:
 

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