FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #3

[justplainmetal]

I still dont think it was her. His tangible assets were the clothes on his back, that house, and the cash he had left...which doesn't seem like much as per earlier posts regarding his financial dealings.

The house was (supposedly) "sold" for a fair market value, and the additional sum mentioned was a fraction of what the loans would total once satisfied. I am sure he knew that the majority of them would never be paid, and think perhaps everyone is neglecting to factor in the "street smarts" of someone who did just that...grew up in the hood, dealing with sketchy characters his whole life.

So assuming that he manages to make Moore think shes getting a swell deal...taking advantage of him even. She has no way of knowing she spent an extra couple hundred grand on air. He makes it out like he just wants to lay low and if need be or trouble arises she can contact him and he will confirm everything and take care of it. He takes the money for the house, the extra money and bounces, with no intent of maintaining contact, realizing that she paid to assume loans that would never be repaid. Perhaps barbara jackson even realized that this would work and arranged it FOR him. I've seen it mention that the jacksons were previous acquaintances. Maybe they were better friends than it seems and they helped abraham negotiate this

Just speculation, but i wanted to put a different theory out there

Another view point is great...
However, there is too much to indicate otherwise. Not to mention too many crooked lawyers, and notaries.etc....
Not buying it.

 

[Susan1]

Hi, DM,
So, now you are a POI. Not at all surprising. We all know that you still frequent the site and read all of the latest news about yourself here. You just don't sign in and sign up as a guest. But just like they know how many guests there are, I'm quite sure they know who those guests are as well. It's that pesky old computer IP number that keeps tracking you down.
So, you offerered someone a house worth a ton of money to say they saw Abraham, eh? Hopefully you didn't offer our guy who said he thought he saw him in Baltimore money. And anyone with a brain would know not to take those properties of "yours". Most of the people on this site don't seem to believe those properties are "yours". Or the Notes. They are going to be kind of hard to unload now that you've gone and messed up the deeds. I bet the Title search companies will get to your deeds and your assignments and hit a serious road bump. And as far as your unloading them on someone else, doesn't seem likely. I haven't seen any assignment transfers on the properties. Most people would file those assignments with the County, like you did. They seem to still be in your name. Unless I missed something. How about it, IB, did I miss something? IB is like a dog with a bone, doesn't seem IB is going to let go until this thing is resolved.
Now, DM, I hate repeating myself but how long you want to stay in that orange jumpsuit will most likely depend on when you want to roll over on anyone else who is involved, and it seems as if someone else must have been involved as you don't seem smart enough to do this on your own. Once they have all the pieces of the puzzle, there won't be any reason to play Let's Make a Deal with you anymore. And you just are not that smart. You weren't that smart when you were duct-taping your wrists and reporting nonexistant hispanic men were raping you, and you certainly aren't smart enough to pull this off. Wake up and smell the coffee. Your days of freedom seem to be running short.
Now I told you before, you should have stayed over in Hillsborough County. Sheriff Grady isn't going to let this go. He just made an arrest in the missing person pilot case. I'm guessing he's not going to take to much longer to figure out this one.
It's time to talk to that detective you hate so much. Do you hate him because he is doing such a good job? You'll feel so much better getting it off your conscience. If someone has done something to Abraham, everyone involved, and everyone who knew about it, will most likely go down on the same charge. And don't forget, you are living in a death penalty state.
So, DM, I'm pretty confident you know the answer to this question since you said in an earlier post you weren't looking for him, you must already know where he is, and inquiring minds want to know:
Where is Abraham?

 

[Kenon]

Man! You guys are excellent sleuthers. Look at everything you found out. Now Miss D is goin down. No wonder all the news stations carried the story today, because it's getting closer. She is so low she called his mother and pretended to be him. How sad is that. We all know she is good at pretending to be other people. She never had me fooled with her video either.

 

[Iminuru]

TheLedger Article today - Published: Wednesday, January 6, 2010 at 2:54 p.m

I'm not sure if somone has already posted this article here yet... I've been following the news all day, and it makes me so sad to think that the possibilities are so grim right now... I couldn't even post here... I'm just speachless. On one hand I am so glad that they've proceeded further, and are giving more news/updates... and on the other hand I... I just can't bear my own thoughts, let alone learn more than we have here already...

I keep thinking about... keep feeling that one handshake... the one that I had no clue would have such an intensely deep impact on my life... :cry:

From this article: (bbm)
"Elizabeth Walker of Lakeland said that sometime after Christmas she was eating at Cracker Barrel when a man called pretending to be her son, who won a $31 million jackpot in November 2006.

“I just feel sick just thinking that something like that could’ve happened to my son. I wish I would’ve insisted going to see him wherever he was,” she said.

Walker was eating with Moore and handed the phone to her.

Walker said Moore told her she could hardly understand what the man was saying.

Reached by telephone Wednesday, Moore told The Ledger she didn’t know who the caller was.

After the phone call, Walker said, she called investigators, and they told her they thought Moore was connected with the phone call. She wouldn’t say what detectives suspected.

Judd said detectives are still hoping to hear from Shakespeare that he is OK. But he said the fact that he didn’t call his mother or other family members over the holidays was not a good sign."

Also: (bbm)
"For months now, Walker said both Moore and another woman (who? BJ?) have been telling her Shakespeare had AIDS or was in a hospital.

The two women also said they had received messages from her son, but Walker said that whenever she personally tried to call, she only got his voice mail."

From Ms Walker:
“I didn’t know there was such dirty evil people on this earth, but I really know now,” she said. “I’m so hurt. I’ve been praying about it. God is the only one who can bring out the truth and give me strength.”


I be back... raying:

Yep... that one powerful handshake... touched by an angel... of that I'm sure...

 

[Slammed]

Hi, DM,
So, now you are a POI. Not at all surprising. We all know that you still frequent the site and read all of the latest news about yourself here. You just don't sign in and sign up as a guest. But just like they know how many guests there are, I'm quite sure they know who those guests are as well. It's that pesky old computer IP number that keeps tracking you down.

Can you prove that her ip address has been viewing these threads or is that speculation? The only way you would know that is if you were a moderator, and i don't see any mention of it from the other mods

 

[Kenon]

This woman is ruthless. She saw an opportunity to prey on a giving man who wanted to help people. She jumped on it. Look at all the devious stuff she has done. Poor Mrs. W. Miss D is evil as all He!!. I don't put anything past her. How dare her cry on a video "poor me". It will be all about you now Dee!

 

[SuziQ]

Can you prove that her ip address has been viewing these threads or is that speculation? The only way you would know that is if you were a moderator, and i don't see any mention of it from the other mods

My understanding the IP's were and are being tracked by WS because of Moore's claims that she wasn't posting here and she asked those posts be removed. This all occured at the same time the supposed 14 year old son was posting here as well. I'm not sure what thread it's in, but the posts explaining how it was all being handled was made by Tricia, IIRC.

 

[SuziQ]

This woman is ruthless. She saw an opportunity to prey on a giving man who wanted to help people. She jumped on it. Look at all the devious stuff she has done. Poor Mrs. W. Miss D is evil as all He!!. I don't put anything past her. How dare her cry on a video "poor me". It will be all about you now Dee!

ITA. What gets me is she keeps saying she bought this or that to help AS out and save him from the poorhouse. I yet to see any proof that money was put into AS's hands. All I see is what looks like a paper shuffling scam.

 

[Kenon]

Your absolutely right SuziQ. She only took from him. She put him in the poorhouse. She didn't help anyone but herself. She saw an opportunity and ran with it. Imo she got other people involved cuz she thought she was smarter than the police and it would take the heat off of her. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Susan1]

Can you prove that her ip address has been viewing these threads or is that speculation? The only way you would know that is if you were a moderator, and i don't see any mention of it from the other mods

You nervous?

 

[Slammed]

You nervous?

WTH is that supposed to mean? I just was curious as to how you knew this when you weren't a mod, i saw no posts mentioning the ip address being active, and it seems like your sole purpose on this site is to speculate and to badmouth someone who was never proven guilty

:waitasec:

 

[chicagofa13]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34735011/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Sorry if this is already posted!

LAKELAND, Fla. - In 2006, Abraham Shakespeare — a truck driver's assistant who lived with his mother — won $30 million in the Florida lottery. His good fortune may have cost him his life.

 

[STEADFAST]

My understanding the IP's were and are being tracked by WS because of Moore's claims that she wasn't posting here and she asked those posts be removed. This all occured at the same time the supposed 14 year old son was posting here as well. I'm not sure what thread it's in, but the posts explaining how it was all being handled was made by Tricia, IIRC.

According to Tricia, the email she got from someone claiming to be DM and claiming not to be posting here came from the same IP address as the posts did. Don't know how to quote that post, but here's a link to the page it's on: FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April 2009 #2 - Page 10 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Not sure what they did or are doing behind the scenes about the poster D.Moore.

 

[Tricia]

Unless D Moore's "friend" was in her house using her computer each and every time D.Moore posted then it was D. Moore.

This story is getting huge coverage now. Off to read the media reports of the press conference.

 

[lbminnesota]

I will be postings a number of posts from my research that shows a trail of the players. It will be raw data showing the path but it all fits together. My research started at 4809 E Busch Blvd Tampa, FL 33617. Here's a news article dated 1/25/08 involving this address.

“Today, our task force brought to justice the retail theft rings uncovered in the state of Florida—and perhaps the nation,” said Sheriff Grady Judd. “What started as a simple shop lifting investigation turned into the discovery of a far flung criminal conspiracy that counted on common street criminals to steal millions of dollars of merchandise to supply other criminals selling on the Internet and in flea markets. Because of our talented investigators and team work with multiple agencies, these thieves and criminal resellers will be going away to prison for a long, long time.”

The Boosters took the stolen items to Theresa Parrish (she was assisted by her husband, Ron Parrish) at her warehouse business in Tampa, located at 4809 Busch Boulevard, where they received cash in exchange for the stolen goods. Parrish had requested deliveries as often as every day or every two days and has paid Boosters as much as $3,000.00 per delivery. Parrish operates Lola’s Discount Health & Beauty, where she advertises and sells the stolen items on her E-Bay website, and booths at The Big Top Flea Market in Hillsborough County & the Webster Flea Market.

Additionally, Parrish was observed by law enforcement making deliveries of these stolen products to Vincent May, her ex husband, who operates a booth with signage stating “Medicine Man” at the International Market World a/k/a Auburndale Flea Market. May is a Florida registered violent sexual predator.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache...busch+blvd+tampa+fl&cd=87&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[Tricia]

Did you see this?

"We know that DeeDee had Abraham's cell phone during the month of April after his disappearance,” the sheriff said. “We know she sent text messages from Abraham's cell phone to her cell phone and to other people to give the illusion that Abraham was alive and well.

“We also know that she made fake phone calls from Abraham's cell phone to his mother, Ms. Walker, on Mother's Day and would simply hang up. She (Moore) said finally that she threw the cell phone out on the Interstate. When we went with her county line to county line, she just couldn't pinpoint the area where she threw that phone.”

http://www.theledger.com/article/20...Suspect-Lottery-Winner-Met-an-Untimely-Death-

Maybe I am behind the times here but damn. It's looking worse and worse for Ms. Moore every single day.

I would like to remind our members that it is against TOS to try and find out who a poster is. Slammed should be able to post just like everyone else as long as our TOS are observed.

 

[dreamweaver]

Well, we knew by working on Abraham Shakespeare's missing persons case, that there were rocks being overturned and many scuttling insects scattering....

..and there has been an intense dedicated effort by so many on this thread...
I cannot even keep up with the intricate pattern found by WS dedicated posters.
I just read now and keep telling you how great a job you are doing.
I am now one of the sideline cheerleaders.

But I don't think any one of knew when this thread first began that it would lead
to so much corruption.

Such good work. :dance:
Thanks to everyone who has dug dirt and shifted rocks and exposed everything to the light.
Proud to be on WS.

 

[Fairy1]

Well, we knew by working on Abraham Shakespeare's missing persons case, that there were rocks being overturned and many scuttling insects scattering....

..and there has been an intense dedicated effort by so many on this thread...
I cannot even keep up with the intricate pattern found by WS dedicated posters.
I just read now and keep telling you how great a job you are doing.
I am now one of the sideline cheerleaders.

But I don't think any one of knew when this thread first began that it would lead
to so much corruption.

Such good work. :dance:
Thanks to everyone who has dug dirt and shifted rocks and exposed everything to the light.
Proud to be on WS.

Ditto, ditto, ditto! TY dreamweaver - couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[Kenon]

I just read the article that Tricia posted. Great article. Miss D already swindled him out of his 17 million so she was done. She seems to know alot about his money and how much he had when he disappeared. @#$. IMO she is an O.J. Simpson. They think they can do whatever they want to people and get away with it cuz they are above everyone, including the law. I for one am looking forward to her getting her just reward. How dare you DEE!

 

[rar3267]

I am amazed at all the work you all have done and have followed this site posts since inception, and i believe that because of all your Awesome work we will find out shortly what has transpired with Mr A/S! you guys deserve a lot of credit! I cannot wait to see how this turns out and the people responsable for anything negative happened to A/S get what is coming to them! CUDO'S to All! May God Bless for all the great tedious work!