FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

[tigergal71]

Also, and It's very creepy that Shar is kind of missing in action! His signature doesn't seem to be anywhere lately... wonder if LEO know where he is...:waitasec::

Snipped and BBM
This has been on my mind quite a bit. Part of me thought he had to do with the whistleblowing. I still haven't totally discounted that.

If he were MISSING and a POI, certainly they'd be put out APB on him.

It has always seemed odd that the only mention of him was "Moore's boyfriend" or "owner of house" or whatever. NEVER any mention of his possible involvement. Yeah, I've re-convinced myself.....I totally believe he's helping authorities. Time will tell.

Although, that said, we haven't heard very much on Stitzel lately either. Maybe they were the "undercover witnesses" that she was going to try to get to move the body???

Where is everyone??

 

[Iminuru]

Snipped and BBM
This has been on my mind quite a bit. Part of me thought he had to do with the whistleblowing. I still haven't totally discounted that.

If he were MISSING and a POI, certainly they'd be put out APB on him.

It has always seemed odd that the only mention of him was "Moore's boyfriend" or "owner of house" or whatever. NEVER any mention of his possible involvement. Yeah, I've re-convinced myself.....I totally believe he's helping authorities. Time will tell.

(snip)

Yep... very odd! I think in one of the link's, that I posted in above post, there's his myspace and/or facebook stuff... he's referred to as "bulshark" on one of them. He's only 26... not sure what he'd see in DM... perhaps a "sugar mama"?

I follow ya on maybe he's the one that she took over to the cement... and also handed the gun to... not sure if she would do that with someone she had just met/hired... but then again, with her there is NO telling... maybe he was already an "undercover" contact at that point. The LEO in both counties barely utter his name, and when they do... they usually refer to him by "boyfriend" and rarely his name.


Oh, also I found another K somewhere within compiling that post above... it's a Krasniqi, Osman. So I put it into the clerk of court site: Krasniqi There's a ton of stuff from 2001-2009... not sure if there's a connection there.

ETA: Found the past post about this other K:Thread #3 Post #780 (Posted 01-07-2010)

:detective:

 

[Sleuthster]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...s-slaying-has-past-of-deceit-some-say/1070895

Woman accused in Lotto winner's slaying has past of deceit, some say

PLANT CITY — Last April, authorities say, Dorice "DeeDee" Moore bought bags of lime and hired a man to dig a hole in Plant City for the body of 42-year-old Lotto winner Abraham Shakespeare.
On New Year's Eve, she took the dead man's mother to a candlelight service at a church in the same town.
This was the same woman, Elizabeth Walker said Thursday, who gave her a Bible and treated her to restaurant meals and trips to Busch Gardens and Disney — all the while leading Walker to believe that her son was alive somewhere. more at link

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I've been wondering about DM's "boyfriend" too. Someone earlier said DM could be a wannabe cougar and that makes sense, IMO. What doesn't make a lot of sense is the silence in regards to the "boyfriend" (and owner of the house where AS was buried?) JMO. He could be caught up in her '' or have '' of his own?

Someone posted an article earlier with several statements from CE (AS's cousin). I found his statement about the old Cadillac (sp?) a little uppity. I also found his "I delivered the card and didn't say it was from Abraham" odd and his statement about taking 5G and didn't feel as though he didn't do anything wrong struck me as being odd. I didn't like that interview with him.

JMO and again... I get stuck on stupid stuff. I'm overly analytical and always sweat the small stuff... take me for what it's worth. :crazy:

 

[Sleuthster]

Here's more

http://www.theledger.com/article/20...om-Happy-Someone-Arrested-Thanks-Sheriff-Judd

 

[Iminuru]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...s-slaying-has-past-of-deceit-some-say/1070895

Woman accused in Lotto winner's slaying has past of deceit, some say

PLANT CITY — Last April, authorities say, Dorice "DeeDee" Moore bought bags of lime and hired a man to dig a hole in Plant City for the body of 42-year-old Lotto winner Abraham Shakespeare.
On New Year's Eve, she took the dead man's mother to a candlelight service at a church in the same town.
This was the same woman, Elizabeth Walker said Thursday, who gave her a Bible and treated her to restaurant meals and trips to Busch Gardens and Disney — all the while leading Walker to believe that her son was alive somewhere. more at link

"to a candlelight service at a church in the same town"... ~sigh~

Noticed there was no mention that she took Ms Walker to the Holy Land... like Dmoore posted here.

 

[Sleuthster]

The Ledger article...what a sick DeeDee is. OMG, she was manipulating Abrahams family and friends. It wasnt enough that she knew he was dead, she continued to collect the debts from his friends, took his mother on trips, and dragged his cousin into her sick twisted game by threatening to take the house that Abraham had given him. She is a sick sick piece of trash IMO of course and I stand by it.

 

[Iminuru]

Sheriff Judd: Moore's own words led to her arrest
Thursday, February 4, 2010


BayNews9 Video

"She's the only one that talked about shooting," Judd said. "We never talked about it. She brought it up, and she brought it up to the media, and she brought it up to our detectives. It wasn't our words, it was her words."

Judd referred to an interview with Moore, when she spoke about her innocence.

"Because I would never ever pull a gun on another human being in my life, and the people that know me know I wouldn't do that," Moore said. "So, I'm not worried about that, I'm not worried." :behind:

Judd also outlined how Moore led undercover informants straight to the evidence.

"She took undercover sources of ours to the site and said this is where Abraham is buried," he said. "She actually was responsible for giving a firearm to the undercover and said, 'This is the murder weapon.'"



There's other video's at this link: Video's

 

[Tricia]

Moore's mother, according to the article, says she wonders if Moore is this way because of a head injury she suffered in 2005.

I love the first comment on the article right after that . . . "Why are crazy people so darned smart?!"


http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...s-slaying-has-past-of-deceit-some-say/1070895

 

[kiki the parrot]

DM's NOT crazy, she's just plain evil.

arrot:

 

[Amster]

Did her ex husband know what he was digging a hole for?

 

[tigergal71]

I've been wondering about DM's "boyfriend" too. Someone earlier said DM could be a wannabe cougar and that makes sense, IMO. What doesn't make a lot of sense is the silence in regards to the "boyfriend" (and owner of the house where AS was buried?) JMO. He could be caught up in her '' or have '' of his own?

Someone posted an article earlier with several statements from CE (AS's cousin). I found his statement about the old Cadillac (sp?) a little uppity. I also found his "I delivered the card and didn't say it was from Abraham" odd and his statement about taking 5G and didn't feel as though he didn't do anything wrong struck me as being odd. I didn't like that interview with him.

JMO and again... I get stuck on stupid stuff. I'm overly analytical and always sweat the small stuff... take me for what it's worth. :crazy:

No No...don't discount yourself. That's a VERY good point....I, too, felt weird about that interview....although I'm sure the whole reason for him taking the cash was NOT to tell DM sent them the card.....I think you're on target. It's so sad that all these people just wanted a piece of him like that. Or his money, rather. SAD!!!

 

[Sleuthster]

DM's NOT crazy, she's just plain evil.

arrot:

One expert on the field of evil would agree with you. This is what he had to say according to the St Pete Times article.

"She was the devil in disguise," said the Rev. H.B. Holmes, pastor of Rhema Family Fellowship.


:furious: I just hope she goes back to where she came from. JMO of course.

 

[tigergal71]

Did her ex husband know what he was digging a hole for?

From the things they've said so far, no. He was told it was to bury construction debris.

 

[Iminuru]

Did her ex husband know what he was digging a hole for?

I wonder this too... I'm sure he asked her... I mean, I doubt he just went out and dug a hole, no question asked... got a call to come back and fill it in, no questions asked... she had to say something, heck she could have said she was digging for gold... who knows what lie it may have been. Sure wish we knew! Maybe he's one of the "undercover" person's... but also, I got the feeling from somewhere that they didn't exactly get along too well... and didn't see eye to eye on much... :waitasec:

ETA:Oh yea, what tigergal just said! Ok I can see that... throw stuff in and make it look that way.

 

[cholzsch]

Well...small update as to Shar and DD's relationship. DD renewed licensing for American Medical Professionals PEO, INC., a business that had Shar on it in 2008 and 2009 JUST 8 DAYS AGO and left off...guess who....yep, Shar!

Jan, 27, 2010 Secretary of State/Division of Corporations filing

 

[Boyz_Mum]

DM's NOT crazy, she's just plain evil.

arrot:

I'm not saying she's not "crazy", but I do wonder what her background is as far as her mental health is concerned. Maybe her mother saw it after 2005 and after a head injury but I'm still curious as to what types of behaviors she may have shown before that. Maybe someday we'll hear from her ex husband. JMO and my own questions about DM's behavior patterns.

 

[Iminuru]

One expert on the field of evil would agree with you. This is what he had to say according to the St Pete Times article.

"She was the devil in disguise," said the Rev. H.B. Holmes, pastor of Rhema Family Fellowship.


:furious: I just hope she goes back to where she came from. JMO of course.

Yesssss... VERY well said too!

 

[Iminuru]

Well...small update as to Shar and DD's relationship. DD renewed licensing for American Medical Professionals PEO, INC., a business that had Shar on it in 2008 and 2009 JUST 8 DAYS AGO and left off...guess who....yep, Shar!

Jan, 27, 2010 Secretary of State/Division of Corporations filing

OMG!!! Ya don't suppose she did away with Shar do ya????? You know what I mean... guess that's rhetorical... but damn I wouldn't put anything past that DM!

She was very busy with documents this past 10 days! Bet there's more will show up in records too.

 

[cholzsch]

So...what ever happened to "investigative journalism"? I mean, I just looked at this article again:Link.

The million-dollar RedHawk Bend Drive home in North Lakeland that Moore lived in, which once belonged to Shakespeare, won't qualify because of a quitclaim deed that was filed last month transferring the property to another woman.

I guess they haven't read these threads or they would have realized that was on the Lake Parker address!