FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

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  • #861
ACR, do you have any way of accessing the search warrant issued/executed for the 5732 and 5802 Hwy 60 homes? I have a really good question to ask if you have access to that document. I have had it in my hands and already read it...but there is something I don't understand, hoping you may have knowledge to this?
 
  • #862
I don't know how to get into detail without disclosing information that may not or should not be disclosing. The only way to put it is, we know that two people were room mates from January 11 until the homes being crime scene taped January 25. The evening of January 25, DDM had those two leave the house/locations. When those two room mates were on their way back to the home/locations...one room mate turned to the other and stated the whole entire factor of what was going on at those homes, before the room mates even arrived at those homes. Does this make sense to you? How would one know that there was a crime scene going down and also know exactly what DDM had planned on that night, at those locations on that exact night....BEFORE even returning back there?

ok finally, i just thought of something pp told me that there was a rug missing from a roomwhen she MOved In, and when she moved in, the place had been renovated...so whenever she moved in, now i do not have a clue, just telling you and the rest of the world what she told me...i hope this gives a time frame ......i have not looked back at my inputs, but i hope i made the time frame clear the first time i mentioned this,,,,,,????
 
  • #863
ACR, do you have any way of accessing the search warrant issued/executed for the 5732 and 5802 Hwy 60 homes? I have a really good question to ask if you have access to that document. I have had it in my hands and already read it...but there is something I don't understand, hoping you may have knowledge to this?

I do not have either search warrant for either 5732 and 5802 Hwy 60 homes but I sure would like to have them. :-) By you saying you have it in your hands, does that mean you have them?

If you do, and are willing to share, you can sent them attached to my e-mail and I can read them and see if I can help answer your question.

e-mail: [email protected]

ACR
 
  • #864
ok finally, i just thought of something pp told me that there was a rug missing from a roomwhen she MOved In, and when she moved in, the place had been renovated...so whenever she moved in, now i do not have a clue, just telling you and the rest of the world what she told me...i hope this gives a time frame ......i have not looked back at my inputs, but i hope i made the time frame clear the first time i mentioned this,,,,,,????

Yes, I caught all of it when you posted it. Supposedly, PP moved in after all the AS money transfers/renovations, etc. I don't know if PP had been to the residence prior to the actual move-in. But yes, valuable point, how would one know a rug was missing, if they weren't there until after the factors took place? It's just these things that when I first started replying to your posts, that made me have the "WOW" and the things that make you go "Hmm"!
 
  • #865
I do not have either search warrant for either 5732 and 5802 Hwy 60 homes but I sure would like to have them. :-) By you saying you have it in your hands, does that mean you have them?

If you do, and are willing to share, you can sent them attached to my e-mail and I can read them and see if I can help answer your question.

e-mail: [email protected]

ACR

No I don't have it in my hands, when I was recently there, I was handed it and read it. Along with the list of things taken by LE. And I don't know since these things have not been publicized that I know of, if I am legally allowed to state anything. There was just something mentioned in the search warrant that mentioned PP that guitarman_fl and I have been talking about, and it really threw me for a loop. I was just wondering if it was just a usual statement posted in a search warrant. Sorry, I don't think I can disclose the info though.
 
  • #866
No I don't have it in my hands, when I was recently there, I was handed it and read it. Along with the list of things taken by LE. And I don't know since these things have not been publicized that I know of, if I am legally allowed to state anything. There was just something mentioned in the search warrant that mentioned PP that guitarman_fl and I have been talking about, and it really threw me for a loop. I was just wondering if it was just a usual statement posted in a search warrant. Sorry, I don't think I can disclose the info though.

It must seem really strange to have been in that house, to have talked with some of the people who worked or live there, and now to realize what Dee Dee Moore was capable of as outlined in that probable cause affidavit.

You should have been here on the forum back in December when she was was posting away here trying to convince all of us that she just wanted to find Abraham. It's laughable now to read back over her posts.

ACR
 
  • #867
It must seem really strange to have been in that house, to have talked with some of the people who worked or live there, and now to realize what Dee Dee Moore was capable of as outlined in that probable cause affidavit.

You should have been here on the forum back in December when she was was posting away here trying to convince all of us that she just wanted to find Abraham. It's laughable now to read back over her posts.

ACR

I wish I could figure out how to get back to her posts. I only got to read the one in which someone recently posted about her teaching the CPR classes/etc.

I think the strangest feeling in all of this from my standpoint, was those feelings I had in that house and about the property next door, way back at the end of summer. And as this unfolded, I made comments to family/friends in reference to things...and OMG...when I realized that all that I felt was indeed a confirmed homicide...I am still just in shock. My family/friends still can't believe I felt all these things long ago, and that even after mentioned to LE they didn't act on them at that time. Then recently, seeing the list and seeing the things on the list that I had feelings about...I think I'll need a therapist before it's all over!
 
  • #868
Finally or Guitarman,

Even though DebM and Shar's mother didn't move into the red house until 2010, but did either of them know or ever talk to Abraham Shakespeare?

Do you know if DebM, or Shar's mother knew D. Howard Stitzel? Being the neighbor renting the other house, did he ever stop into the red house to visit or chat or whatever?

ACR
 
  • #869
Something that is really bothering me now is that, for one thing I had backed off from all of it until Friday the 19th, something told me to check into things...then that night she was charged with murder. Then the other night I had horrible nightmares, the night of the 23rd. Yesterday I went back and read through the CRA again.....what a conincidence!
02/19/2009 DDM wrote a check/etc for AMP...02/19/2010 charged with murder.
02/23/2009 DDM wrote another check/etc for AMP...02/23/2010, nightmares.
 
  • #870
Finally or Guitarman,

Even though DebM and Shar's mother didn't move into the red house until 2010, but did either of them know or ever talk to Abraham Shakespeare?

Do you know if DebM, or Shar's mother knew D. Howard Stitzel? Being the neighbor renting the other house, did he ever stop into the red house to visit or chat or whatever?

ACR

No, No, No, ACR...Shar's mother had been living at the 5732 home since at least last summer. DebM only got down here January 11,2010. I think they both knew DHS, but I'm not sure, but I will find out today. Something else that makes you say "hmm" the "Land's" that have been mentioned...it was told to me that R. Lands brother D. Land was very close to PP and visiting BOTH homes just before they executed the warrant.

It was told to me that DebM knew nothing of AS, not so sure about Shar's mother knowing AS though. Something else I will look into today.
 
  • #871
Something that is really bothering me now is that, for one thing I had backed off from all of it until Friday the 19th, something told me to check into things...then that night she was charged with murder. Then the other night I had horrible nightmares, the night of the 23rd. Yesterday I went back and read through the CRA again.....what a conincidence!
02/19/2009 DDM wrote a check/etc for AMP...02/19/2010 charged with murder.
02/23/2009 DDM wrote another check/etc for AM...02/23/2010, nightmares.

? How can she be writing checks, she's been in jail since 02/02/2010 ?

Is she writing checks from jail?

ACR
 
  • #872
? How can she be writing checks, she's been in jail since 02/02/2010 ?

Is she writing checks from jail?

ACR

No she's not writing checks that I know of and from what I have been told she is not allowed to have access to anything that leads back to AS, which is probably ALOT. No the checks I mentioned were written last year, just coincidence that a year later of those checks being written she was charged with the murder on the one date, and my nightmares a year later on the other date. Checks were written 2/19/09 and 2/23/09.
 
  • #873
Oh I get it, sorry I see now you wrote the checks were from 2009 !!

ACR
 
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Someone mentioned in a post too bad there isn't coverage on her visits or something like that. I so wish I could share the things she is saying in her calls from jail. OMG!!! From what I have been told, you think her posts were funny? You wouldn't believe the things she's still coming up with.
 
  • #876
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS!
LINK HERE

Yes, I am well aware of this and have been. Was in hopes it would not get brought up. There was no way for DebM to continue to try to run a business with the tarnished AMP name. That's why this was done. I truly don't think DebM had anything to do with any of the AS factors. I truly believe she is a good person, and I was truly hoping that out of all of this, after all her back busting she did for DDM over the years, that she would have a chance of making a go with a new name.
 
  • #877
Yes, I am well aware of this and have been. Was in hopes it would not get brought up. There was no way for DebM to continue to try to run a business with the tarnished AMP name. That's why this was done. I truly don't think DebM had anything to do with any of the AS factors. I truly believe she is a good person, and I was truly hoping that out of all of this, after all her back busting she did for DDM over the years, that she would have a chance of making a go with a new name.[/QUOT

why would she pick the same name practically as one of their companies and why is she listing that address?
 
  • #878
Someone mentioned in a post too bad there isn't coverage on her visits or something like that. I so wish I could share the things she is saying in her calls from jail. OMG!!! From what I have been told, you think her posts were funny? You wouldn't believe the things she's still coming up with.

Well I got news for Dee Dee.... When the prosecutors release the discovery documents to the public under the Sunshine Law in Florida, Dee Dee's jail calls will become public information and will be released. :-)

They no doubt will be on YouTube faster than flash !! LOL
 
  • #879
Yes, I am well aware of this and have been. Was in hopes it would not get brought up. There was no way for DebM to continue to try to run a business with the tarnished AMP name. That's why this was done. I truly don't think DebM had anything to do with any of the AS factors. I truly believe she is a good person, and I was truly hoping that out of all of this, after all her back busting she did for DDM over the years, that she would have a chance of making a go with a new name.[/QUOT

why would she pick the same name practically as one of their companies and why is she listing that address?

Remember when I said DDM plays on vulnerable people? When PP advised DebM of all of this, name/same address, I just shook my head! Told them both it would only be a matter of time. My main concern is, there are nurses out there that need the work badly and facilities that need the nurses and so many others would be so screwed because of DDM and the business being tarnished!
 
  • #880
Well I got news for Dee Dee.... When the prosecutors release the discovery documents to the public under the Sunshine Law in Florida, Dee Dee's jail calls will become public information and will be released. :-)

They no doubt will be on YouTube faster than flash !! LOL

Well, when they area released, be prepared, I think we all know, what she will try to do in all this...and I think she just says alot of what she says, to really support her efforts of what she is going to try to claim. It's hysterical the things she comes up with. What's not so funny is....the !@@## took a man's life and affected so many others, and actually tries to maintain her innocence!
 
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