FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

[guitarman_fl]

pp told me on the phone that she and her son shar has had conversations about the oil on the tile and shar reapiring it ......just for the record...

 

[ACandyRose]

what was this? When I clicked the link I got an error from the Florida Dept of Corrections. I tried to use the "offender search" and nothing comes up under Moore Dorice (I clicked "search using aliases" button)

????

The connection to the two great finds by wanttohelp are below:

These are both PUBLIC RECORDS:

www.sunbiz.org

Fictitious Name
STAT NURSING PERSONNEL

Filing Information
Registration Number G10000011056
Status ACTIVE
Filed Date 02/03/2010
Expiration Date 12/31/2015
Current Owners 1
County MULTIPLE
Total Pages 1
Events Filed NONE
FEI/EIN Number NONE

Mailing Address
5732 SR 60 E
PLANT CITY, FL 33567

Owner Information
AMERICAN MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS LLC
1354 WRIGHTS CREEK RD
BONIFAY, FL 32425
FEI/EIN Number: APPL
Document Number: L04000091594

Signed by: Debbie Munguia 02/03/2010

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http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/detail.asp?Bookmark=5&From=list&SessionID=977929196

DC Number: Q23642
Name: MUNGUIA, JORGE ANTONIO II
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BLONDE OR STRAWBERRY
Eye Color: BROWN
Height: 5'07''
Weight: 190 lbs.
Birth Date: 03/01/1989
Supervision Begin Date: 12/10/2009
Current Location: PANAMA CITY
Current Status: ACTIVE
Supervision Type: PROBATION FELONY
Scheduled Termination Date: 01/12/2015

Current Verified PERMANENT Address:
1354 WRIGHTS CREEK RD
BONIFAY, FL 32425

Aliases:
JORGE ANTONIO MUNGUIA
JORGE ANTONIO MUNGUIA II
TONY MUNGUIA

Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Community Supervision Length
08/05/2009 GRAND THEFT,300 L/5,000 12/10/2009 HOLMES 0900170 3Y 0M 0D
10/15/2009 GRAND THEFT,300 L/5,000 01/13/2010 HOLMES 0900267 5Y 0M 0D
10/15/2009 TRAFFIC IN STOLEN PROPERTY 01/13/2010 HOLMES 0900267 5Y 0M 0D

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ACR

 

[tigergal71]

maybe she was living nearby, like with dee dee and shar and had infact seen the rug, how else would she know it was missing, she did tell me that le asked her why she did not come forth earlier if she suspected something was a foul.
where ever they went after their place was taped off, she said that dee de told her as they were digging , that dee dee said i am going to get arrested, as she and dm, pp were at the same place awaiting the out come of the dig, that is when she said that dee dee told her that shar helped as he replaced the tile said to cover up blood. at that point she said she got very angry, because she said shar was someplace else when AS was murdered...so i can only speculate that she knows when the murder occured. then pp told me that dee told shar that
someone spilled oil on the floor and it had to be retiled, grouted ect. pp told me that she told dee dee she was never going to speak to her again, but at another phone call aprox, a week later she said she went and put money in dee dee' account at the jail...... finally , you bring up a very. she had to see the rug to know it was missing , i can think of no other explanation.

BBM
Do you know if PP actually visited DM in jail? Do you know any of her visitors thus far? The media did report that DM's mother and son were going to see her, but nothing else has been released that I've seen.
I can't wait till info is released under the sunshine law....I really wanna know what sort of things she's been saying!! I'm sure this will be a LONG drawn out process, but I want to see what's going to ultimately happen!!

 

[ACandyRose]

BBM
Do you know if PP actually visited DM in jail? Do you know any of her visitors thus far? The media did report that DM's mother and son were going to see her, but nothing else has been released that I've seen.
I can't wait till info is released under the sunshine law....I really wanna know what sort of things she's been saying!! I'm sure this will be a LONG drawn out process, but I want to see what's going to ultimately happen!!

LOL, me too tigergal, I can't wait to listen to those jail calls !!

Hopefully if the media doesn't pick up the public discovery files and make the documents and audio files available to us, then perhaps somebody local can pick them up for us.

ACR

 

[joybell]

...i was thinking..ddm..had to have known this was coming down...she had plenty of time to gather cash...to get rid of paperwork...i'm sure not all..but i'm sure she has cash stuck somewhere...r someone has her cash...i'm sure there are some "maxwell" coffee cans buried somewhere...because she had plenty of time to do what she needed to do...when she sold the vehicle, didn't i read somewhere she had 3 checks cut...one for $4,000. in her mothers name....i bet that wasn't pp money she put into ddm account...she love to showboat...i'm sure LE is on top of this...but its the rest of us..sitting her waiting...

 

[joybell]

...i would love to know the real reasons her attorney dropped her...this being such a high profile case...hey...oj..got off....and how many ppl made money off of him....you know sh*t flows down hill....any attorney would love to represent her for the publicity...something just don't make sense...

 

[guitarman_fl]

BBM
Do you know if PP actually visited DM in jail? Do you know any of her visitors thus far? The media did report that DM's mother and son were going to see her, but nothing else has been released that I've seen.
I can't wait till info is released under the sunshine law....I really wanna know what sort of things she's been saying!! I'm sure this will be a LONG drawn out process, but I want to see what's going to ultimately happen!!

pp told me that she put money in deedees account at jail, whether she saw her or not i do not know,

also regarding the fixed tile floor, pp told me that she and shar told a detective about fixing the floor

 

[rotterdam]

pp told me that she put money in deedees account at jail, whether she saw her or not i do not know,

also regarding the fixed tile floor, pp told me that she and shar told a detective about fixing the floor

Wow just done reading the last couple of pages. lots of great new stuff.
I wonder if the replaced tiles were found in the hole, besides Shakespeare.
That would be great evidence too. I guess it all depends on when the floor was replaced.

 

[ACandyRose]

Wow just done reading the last couple of pages. lots of great new stuff.
I wonder if the replaced tiles were found in the hole, besides Shakespeare.
That would be great evidence too. I guess it all depends on when the floor was replaced.

Another WOW moment ! I didn't even think about that she might have thrown those "oil spilled" tiles in the same hole as she threw Abraham. If not, then LE needs to get back with good ole hole digger James Moore and find out what others holes he dug up for Dee Dee to throw trash in. The probable cause affidavit stated James Moore told LE that he DID dig other holes for Dee Dee.

LOL on joybell's "maxwell" coffee cans buried.

ACR

 

[joybell]

...you know i have had nothing but respect for james moore...but wasn't he around when she was raped by the 3 mexicans..and her vehicle was stolen....i've thought .....he would not be involved with all of this....unless ddm told him his son was somehow involved....somethings not right....i'm smelling a rat....

 

[joybell]

i wonder how long ddm had been planning on killing AS...had to be for sometime...she meets him in late 2008 and then things started happin in the beginning of 2009...she had to of had this plan going on from the beginning...and then AS is killed in april....she works fast...how could she have pulled all of this off...he wasn't willing to give all his assets to any other women....there had to of been some sexual exchanges going on....i sure hope ddm is not the women that AS paid the $10,000. to for the lap dance...heck i would have done it for $500..and look as good as she does......i think? LOLLL

 

[blue mermaid]

wow... you guys have been busy today!

Awesome find, wanttohelp! :woohoo:

 

[blue mermaid]

Wow just done reading the last couple of pages. lots of great new stuff.
I wonder if the replaced tiles were found in the hole, besides Shakespeare.
That would be great evidence too. I guess it all depends on when the floor was replaced.

Good thinking, rotterdam.

Something else to ponder- we don't know the exact day the hole was dug.

If Abraham was killed the evening of the 6th or in the wee hours of the 7th, right before the "drastic" change of his cell phone usage, he was not buried during that time.

James said he dug the hole, went away for an hour or two, then came back to cover it up right before dark.

 

[wanttohelp]

I will start by saying I have a neighbor who was loaned money by Abraham. I don't know her well, just enough to say hello to if I see her on the street. I had to visit her once about a having a fence installed as she is on the HOA board. Took a whole 2 minutes for her to sign off on it. That was the only conversation we have ever had. I've heard things about the situation with her home loan from others in my neighborhood, but not from her. But that was what piqued my interest in this case at the beginning. It touched close to home. This case had a tie to not just the city I live in, but the neighborhood I live in. The rest of them, I don't know, never met. I have no agenda here other than to find the truth. It is very complex with enough people involved since the lottery winning to fill a house at a theater.
The way I look at it, the closer they are to the sources, Dorice Moore as accused perp and Abraham, the victim, the more their actions will be scrutinized. If their actions are public record or if their actions bring them into media attention, then they are involved enough to be discussed. If they associate with criminals, they are not guilty by association, but if they become involved in that criminal activity, whether accidentally, unknowingly, or with intent, again, their involvement will bring them in the public eye and their actions that are public record will be brought out under the light of the Sunshine State. If they have made stupid decisions, although not criminal, then so be it. I'm sure there are many people who have somehow gotten involved in this mess through just their association with Dorice, Abraham, and Howard Stitzel. Johnnie Byrd was a good example. He was a law partner with Howard Stitzel and trusted the wrong person in the end and pulled out of the partnership too late, after some amount of damage was done to his company. His name is on the document as the one who prepared the Quit Claim deed for the Redhawk home Abraham owned, the one that Dorice says she paid $655,000 and no money changed hands. He has since explained that he did not know either Dorice or Abraham, that they were Howard's clients, and when Howard left, he took those clients with them. He said he did not prepare that deed and explained it that the header with his name on it was automatically generated by a computer in error. Very shortly after the Quit Claim deed for the Redhawk house was prepared, Howard Stitzel was preparing the assignments from a new address. Howard is reported to have said to the media it was because of business differences. Just an opinion, but given the close proximity in dates, I'm guessing that Johnnie Byrd was not too happy about having his name on that document and these transactions could have been part of the business difference that caused Byrd to fire Stitzel. Byrd said it was because he wasn't showing up at the office, but if Byrd did not prepare that document, as he claims, and I do believe that, then to me it appears that Stitzel may have at least shown up to prepare that Quit Claim deed. There are 2 witnesses on that deed that can be subpoeaned.
However, I digress. I am close to no one on this case. I have no one I am protecting or defending. I just want the truth. I think if you have done something that is associated with this case or the people close to it, and if it is public records and it can be proven to be true, then it is open to discussion. The who, what, when, where, and how are all pretty much factual information. But even those get distorted. Who wrote prepared the quit claim deed? As per the document, it would be Johnnie Byrd. As per Johnnie Byrd, he did not prepare the deed and they were Howard Stitzel's clients. It is when we get to the "why did they do it" that we can get really get hung up because we can't read people's minds and it often comes down to differences of opinions. And since Dorice does not seem to be able to tell the truth, what she says is not going to be where I go for the answer.
So, thanks to wanttohelp for the link because I had no idea that American Medical Professionals, LLC of 1354 Wrights Creek Rd., Bonifay, FL had applied for a fictitious name, Stat Nursing Personnel, on 2/3/10, active at present, with an expiration date of 12/31/2015. And looking at the actual document at the link, the mailing address of Stat Nursing Personnel is 5732 SR 60, Plant City, FL, 33567, or that Debbie Munguia had signed that document as the owner of the fictitious name. She has also signed as an oath that she has advertised the name at least once in a newspaper where the business is register. I must have missed the publication of the name in the newspaper. I'd be interested to see it because I would think she would also have to tie the name American Medical Professional as the owner of Stat Nursing Personnel in that publication.
So, IN MY OPIONION, this was a really stupid move. Why not just open a brand new business that does not have the stench of fraud and theft, that does not have Abraham Shakespeare's money flowing through it's coffers?
Even more stupid, IN MY OPINION, if your statement, "The one's that aren't receiving pay is the owner, because for some reason the payroll company has continued to transfer the deposits into DDM's business account" is correct, that she isn't even getting paid by leaving AMP open. She should close it down if she really owns it and start her own brand new, clean business without the stigma of the murder of a man for profit attached to it. And why would anyone want to work that hard for a company where they would not even being paid?
Sorry, on this one, I am clearly on the other side of the fence. If that money is still being funnelled to Dorice from some other scam she is pulling even though she supposedly no longer owns the company, then she should not even be getting a public defender, she should be using the money from the profits the company is currently pulling in (not from the past questionable amounts she funnelled through the company). And until she cuts ties with AMP and breaks out in a new direction, then I don't see that changing names is going to help her much when the same company still owns it.
And also from wanttohelp, thank you very much, excellent research and you caught it really quickly, she is using an address for the company, 1354 Wrights Creek Rd., Bonifay, FL 32425, the same current verified address of Jorge Munguia who is on active probation for 3 felonies, 8/5/09 - grand theft, 10/15/09, grand theft, and 10/15/09, trafficing in stolen property. The fact that she is linking an address where he resides with her company would not give me a lot of faith in that business. Again, IN MY OPINION, anyone with any business sense would get an office, not hook their company with the address of a felon, especially when it comes to a financial felon.
Finally, wanttohelp, you mentioned that the name is the same and I know you are right as I believe I remember some company that I believed Shar owned that had Stat in it, but I can't remember what it was. Wouldn't a person with business sense come up with a name as far removed as possible from this whole sordid ordeal?
I am not even meaning to imply there is anything further criminal occuring with her company or with her work. But I really do believe if she is as squeaky clean as some posters have appeared to me they believe her to be, she should get a good business advisor and rethink what she is doing. Trying to hide the name of a tainted company makes the new company look just as tainted, IN MY NOT ALWAYS ON THE MARK OPINION.

I reformated my computer and found my smiley firefow extension again!

 

[blue mermaid]

OK, so American Medical Professionals, LLC is owned by DebM, but DDM is still listed as manager. Sorry if this has already been mentioned. I still have some catching up to do.

 

[wanttohelp]

Good thinking, rotterdam.

Something else to ponder- we don't know the exact day the hole was dug.

If Abraham was killed the evening of the 6th or in the wee hours of the 7th, right before the "drastic" change of his cell phone usage, he was not buried during that time.

James said he dug the hole, went away for an hour or two, then came back to cover it up right before dark.

I'm still not content that something hadn't already happened to him as far back as the 3. The day POA was signed and thing at auction bought. IMO the affadavit makes it sound more like Haggins said they were trying to hide the money for the child support case, but didn't sound like putting in accounts, giving it away because she thought he was leaving. I think its hinky the filing of the POA and especially if Abraham was not present.

...i was thinking..ddm..had to have known this was coming down...she had plenty of time to gather cash...to get rid of paperwork...i'm sure not all..but i'm sure she has cash stuck somewhere...r someone has her cash...i'm sure there are some "maxwell" coffee cans buried somewhere...because she had plenty of time to do what she needed to do...when she sold the vehicle, didn't i read somewhere she had 3 checks cut...one for $4,000. in her mothers name....i bet that wasn't pp money she put into ddm account...she love to showboat...i'm sure LE is on top of this...but its the rest of us..sitting her waiting...

Thats what I was saying when we were discussing smelling the coffee, and someone saying to get out of there. For all we know it could have been DD telling shar take this and get out of dodge.

 

[A_New_Day]

I'll get back to my previous questions in a bit

my very first thought about Stat Personnel is that sneaky itch DM is trying to have a fundraiser and circumvent the judges order grrrrrrrr

I KNOW I seem judgemental, trust I am not...trying to give DebM a chance, seems she is seriously being used at the same time I am extremely suspicious of her motives.

Sorry Finally, being honest and I am starting to respect you. As her friend if she is ONLY being used and has had no ties to any illegal or unethical acts, someone close to her might need to have a come to Jesus conversation with her

All this looks real bad

 

[Rizzy]

http://brandonnews2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/26/teen-had-unique-vantage-point-missing-lottery-winn/

Teen had unique vantage point in missing lottery winner case -
Kala Gunn dated RJ Moore, the son of Dee Dee Moore, who is suspected of killing Abraham Shakespeare


By HOWARD ALTMAN | The Tampa Tribune

Published: February 26, 2010

*SNIP*

A short while after Gunn introduced Stizel and Moore, R.J. Moore broke up with Kala. Gunn says her friendship with Moore temporarily ended, but they eventually rekindled their friendship.

Kala spent a lot of time with Moore, who took her out to fancy restaurants and to movies, shopping for new clothes.

"Dee Dee spoiled my daughter,'' says Gunn. "I couldn't. I didn't have those funds."

Gunn says she noticed all the money Moore suddenly had. The meals out. The new Hummer.

Gunn says Moore also helped her out with money for college and books.

There seemed to be no end to Moore's newfound income, says Gunn.

The friendship between Moore and Gunn ended a few months later, in September, when Gunn says she had college bills due and she went to Moore to ask for a loan.

"She said no and snapped at me," says Gunn. "She was very rude."

The two women would meet up again for the last time in November, when Gunn was getting some toys for Kala's new poodle, Page.

"She smiled and asked how I was doing," says Gunn. "She asked me about school. She acted like nothing ever happened.

The two parted ways that day and never saw each other again.
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More at link

 

[Boyz_Mum]

http://brandonnews2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/26/teen-had-unique-vantage-point-missing-lottery-winn/

Teen had unique vantage point in missing lottery winner case -
Kala Gunn dated RJ Moore, the son of Dee Dee Moore, who is suspected of killing Abraham Shakespeare


By HOWARD ALTMAN | The Tampa Tribune

Published: February 26, 2010

*SNIP*

A short while after Gunn introduced Stizel and Moore, R.J. Moore broke up with Kala. Gunn says her friendship with Moore temporarily ended, but they eventually rekindled their friendship.

Kala spent a lot of time with Moore, who took her out to fancy restaurants and to movies, shopping for new clothes.

"Dee Dee spoiled my daughter,'' says Gunn. "I couldn't. I didn't have those funds."

Gunn says she noticed all the money Moore suddenly had. The meals out. The new Hummer.

Gunn says Moore also helped her out with money for college and books.

There seemed to be no end to Moore's newfound income, says Gunn.

The friendship between Moore and Gunn ended a few months later, in September, when Gunn says she had college bills due and she went to Moore to ask for a loan.

"She said no and snapped at me," says Gunn. "She was very rude."

The two women would meet up again for the last time in November, when Gunn was getting some toys for Kala's new poodle, Page.

"She smiled and asked how I was doing," says Gunn. "She asked me about school. She acted like nothing ever happened.

The two parted ways that day and never saw each other again.
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More at link

I apologize if I sound or seem to be judgemental but this quote from the link isn't too complimentary towards Mrs Gunn, IMO.

"Then it got to the point where he had no money left and couldn't pay me," she says. "My kid was no longer dating his kid, so I wondered what was I doing?"

And then this:

The friendship between Moore and Gunn ended a few months later, in September, when Gunn says she had college bills due and she went to Moore to ask for a loan. (I'm guessing the 'Gunn' in this sentence is Mrs Gunn and not the daughter who asked for the loan?)

IMHO, this article seems to point to Mrs Gunn's neediness and perhaps a greedy nature. You all can feel free to correct me, this is just my opinion from what I've read (and would be quite thankful if fewer people around AS or DDM were not 'in it for the money'. KWIM?)

 

[wanttohelp]

I agree Boyzmum, these people are a piece of work. Example of what I mean when I say there is something not right with people down here, they are not like the rest of the country. Can't wait to get out of this state.