FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

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  • #961
I don't want anyone feeling like I am ever playing games. Susan1 made mention also that she felt like she was playing "what's my line with me" and now ACR says "charades".
LOL! I am just full of ALOT (you have no idea) of information and know things that I am unsure if allowed to post! So please understand, no games here, just cautious!
Also, may I add, that people (not to be disrespectful), that know things,especially when it comes to DDM, may end up under a concrete slab! I stated before, I'm not sure of who or what or whom to believe, and don't know who to trust. And that's another reason for caution!

I never felt you were playing games, I understand completely.

I'm grateful that you've come here and shared what you can. Thank you for that. :-)

ACR
 
  • #962
Ok, I have DebM on the phone, I will quote for her, due to her computer is still with LE. I just don't want anyone upset with me, do you want me to proceed?
 
  • #963
I don't want anyone feeling like I am ever playing games. Susan1 made mention also that she felt like she was playing "what's my line with me" and now ACR says "charades".
LOL! I am just full of ALOT (you have no idea) of information and know things that I am unsure if allowed to post! So please understand, no games here, just cautious!
Also, may I add, that people (not to be disrespectful), that know things,especially when it comes to DDM, may end up under a concrete slab! I stated before, I'm not sure of who or what or whom to believe, and don't know who to trust. And that's another reason for caution!

I like the quote from X-Files,
"TRUST NO ONE"
I thought that now Dorice was being bars, the days of missing people concealed under concrete slabs was over. From what you are saying above, it sounds like there is still more to fear. It also sounds like you are working closely with police, which means you have told them everything you know. If so, hopefully that is protection against being found under a concrete slab, the police already have the information you know.
I feel absolutely certain that many of the people who have participated in the crimes against Abraham frequent this site as guests trying to keep up on what we know or what dirty deeds the researchers have uncovered that they have committed. This is a public forum, anyone can read the posts. So, caution is very wise if lack of caution compromises your safety.
 
  • #964
Ok, I have DebM on the phone, I will quote for her, due to her computer is still with LE. I just don't want anyone upset with me, do you want me to proceed?

Wouldn't it have to be verified through Trisha that DebM is participating? I would really love to hear what she has to say, but we had Dorice come out after the fact and say she was not Dmoore. I guess that is the best reason for verifying a person. They can't deny it was them after the fact.
 
  • #965
Ok, I have DebM on the phone, I will quote for her, due to her computer is still with LE. I just don't want anyone upset with me, do you want me to proceed?

Yes please. We may have to consider it hearsay since it's coming second party through you but I'm willing to listen anyway. :-)

I'd like to know when and how she met Dee Dee and got involved with the business.

ACR
 
  • #966
Wouldn't it have to be verified through Trisha that DebM is participating?

Ok, then hopefully then when LE returns DebM's computer Monday, Trisha will verify her to be able to speak for herself. I don't want to post anything I'm not supposed to.
 
  • #967
Yes, you and I were talking about that you had read part of the warrant and was questioning something on it and asking if we had it to help you understand something. But I didn't have it and thought you did and that's why I asked if you could send it to me. But you don't have it and I don't have it and nobody seems to have it.

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  • #968
I would like to know:
1. Why doesn't she just close down American Medical Professionals and start up a brand new business in her name only with no attachments to Dorice Moore?
2. Why doesn't she rent office space rather than using the address of the place where police suspect Abraham was murdered?
3. What paper did she publish the Fictitious name in since she swore under oath that she had published it in a paper in Hillsborough County? What date did she publish it?
4. If she, as the owner, is not getting paid as you stated in an earlier post, why does she continue to run this business? How does she pay her bills if she is not getting paid? How much money is being funnelled into Dorice's business account?
5. If Dorice is getting paid money from this company, how can she then be declared indigent and able to get a public defender?
6. Who lived in the house when Abraham was murdered?
 
  • #969
Finally, you are allowed to discuss things you have heard or rumors if you state that. The pupose of verifying is if a poster says they are someone. I want to hear and if anything regarding playing games, its that I just want you to spit it out. Sometimes it seems like your hinting or beating around the bush about stuff we already know or really isnt that big of a deal. Absolutely do not post anything that could mess with your safety. I advise you not to trust anyone because anyone could be lying.
 
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  • #971
I would like to know:
1. Why doesn't she just close down American Medical Professionals and start up a brand new business in her name only with no attachments to Dorice Moore?
2. Why doesn't she rent office space rather than using the address of the place where police suspect Abraham was murdered?
3. What paper did she publish the Fictitious name in since she swore under oath that she had published it in a paper in Hillsborough County? What date did she publish it?
4. If she, as the owner, is not getting paid as you stated in an earlier post, why does she continue to run this business? How does she pay her bills if she is not getting paid? How much money is being funnelled into Dorice's business account?
5. If Dorice is getting paid money from this company, how can she then be declared indigent and able to get a public defender?
6. Who lived in the house when Abraham was murdered?
Hopefully this helps! This is what I am being told.
1. When taking over the business on December 14, 2009. DebM is stated as OWNER/Manager. The ANNUAL REPORT PDF was the last annual report in which DDM had to make when change of owner/manager took place.
2. When applying for the fictitious name, the 5732 address was still on lock-down by LE. Therefore, DebM was unable to obtain needed documents to change the address.
3. It was ran in the Tampa Tribune approximately between February 6th and 11th.
4.and 5. NO MONEY longer goes to DDM's account. Per policy of the payroll company, DebM has to wait five weeks before she is able to receive pay.
6. Which house?
This is only what I have been told. Hope this helps?
 
  • #972
Finally, or we can all go to Websleuths chat. Well I'm there now. Thanks to ACR for replying to my pm s about that though.
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  • #973
Why doesn't she just start a brand new company, her own company, and cut ties with AMP for good? That company will always be associated with Abraham's murder and his money that has run through that company. Changing the name doesn't change the company.
 
  • #974
6. Who lived in the house where Abraham was murdered, the red house on SR 60, when he was murdered?
 
  • #975
I'd also like to know when DebM found out about the investigation into Abraham Shakespeare and Dorice's connection to that investigation. I believe I read in the paper that she moved in about the middle of January and had not heard about it, though I could be wrong about that because I can't find the article now. As we have discussed before, Dorice's involvment had become national news after the sheriff named her a person of interest in early January.
 
  • #976
The other address she uses in Bonifay is the registered address of a person who has committed 3 financial felonies and is on probation for them. I'm assuming it is a relative as they share the same last name. Why doesn't she just open an office space for the business so she has an address free of the associations of murder victims or felons?
According to the criminal affidavit, that business made a profit of about $750,000 over five years (don't have the affidavit in front of me, that # could be off). That is a profit of over $100K a year. Certainly she could afford an office space with that amount.
 
  • #977
Why doesn't she just start a brand new company, her own company, and cut ties with AMP for good? That company will always be associated with Abraham's murder and his money that has run through that company. Changing the name doesn't change the company.

From what I am told, for one, after DebM worked for DDM for a year and a half at a pay cut down to $250.00 a week, when DDM offered the company to DebM (NOT KNOWING ABOUT ANY OF AS MONEY BEING INVOLVED WITH AMP) she, by all means took over the company. At that time, DebM made up all new contracts under the AMP name. (NOT knowing that DDM had done all that she had done). The whole purpose of the fictitions name was not to cover up anything, it was only made due to it was now DebM's company name, and because of the contracts DebM has had to go under American Medical Professionals,LLC DBA Stat Nursing Personnel. AMP no longer exists, except on prior contracts. Once those contracts are re-newed the company will only be KNOWN as STAT NURSING PERSONNEL! As of December 14th, 2009, there are new accounts, and NONE OF AS money is involved with the company since DebM has taken over the company. This is only what I have been told!
 
  • #978
6. Who lived in the house where Abraham was murdered, the red house on SR 60, when he was murdered?

From what I am told, no one lived at the address in question 5732, when AS was killed. It was only used as the business office at that time.
 
  • #979
I'd also like to know when DebM found out about the investigation into Abraham Shakespeare and Dorice's connection to that investigation. I believe I read in the paper that she moved in about the middle of January and had not heard about it, though I could be wrong about that because I can't find the article now. As we have discussed before, Dorice's involvment had become national news after the sheriff named her a person of interest in early January.

From what I have been told, DebM did not know that DDM was named a "POI" until moving here January 11, 2010.
 
  • #980
The criminal affidavit had listed some of Abraham's money as going into the AMP account and that DM had used that account as her personal as well as business account. Does DebM know where all that money went? Had Dorice taken all that money out of the AMP account by the time she took over? Was there any balance in that account when she took over?
 
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