FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

[Susan1]

When her computer is returned, will she getting an account here and joining us? I would really like her to join in.

 

[Finally_]

The other address she uses in Bonifay is the registered address of a person who has committed 3 financial felonies and is on probation for them. I'm assuming it is a relative as they share the same last name. Why doesn't she just open an office space for the business so she has an address free of the associations of murder victims or felons?
According to the criminal affidavit, that business made a profit of about $750,000 over five years (don't have the affidavit in front of me, that # could be off). That is a profit of over $100K a year. Certainly she could afford an office space with that amount.

From what I am told, and I can confirm, DebM does NOT live anywhere near Bonifay. As already stated in news articles, DebM relocated January 11, 2010. I am unsure of the exact address at this time, but I am told that very soon Sunbiz.org will be updating. Due to new laws that took effect January 1, 2010, there are several pieces of documentations that have to be taken to the DMV for changes on DL/ID. In which due to the fact that 5732 was on lock-down at that time, DebM was unable to provide those documents for the change of DL/ID/Business address.

 

[Finally_]

The criminal affidavit had listed some of Abraham's money as going into the AMP account and that DM had used that account as her personal as well as business account. Does DebM know where all that money went? Had Dorice taken all that money out of the AMP account by the time she took over? Was there any balance in that account when she took over?

DebM did NOT take over the BUSINESS ACCOUNT OF MONIES. DebM has had to start from scratch with her own money. NEW BUSINESS ACCOUNT. I personally witnessed the opening of the new account.

 

[Susan1]

I know you and DebM both live locally in FL and it is 3am. I really cannot think of any more questions I have right now for DebM. Too tired. But thank you for taking the time to answer the questions I did have. And I do hope when she gets her computer, she will get an account, send Trisha an e-mail and get verified, and then come join us. She has unique insights into this case as well and there are a lot of posters who are not here now who I'm sure would like to converse with her.
Thanks to both of you.

 

[Finally_]

The criminal affidavit had listed some of Abraham's money as going into the AMP account and that DM had used that account as her personal as well as business account. Does DebM know where all that money went? Had Dorice taken all that money out of the AMP account by the time she took over? Was there any balance in that account when she took over?

If you read closely through the CRA, you will realize that DDM, IMO, and from the CRA, blew through money as quick as she got her hands on it. I have been told that by November 2009, she was close to being broke. I was also told that that was why the BMW was sold and soon after the Hummer was sold as well. From what I understand and in reading the CRA, AS money was gone through like water. Cars/homes/personal expenses/restaurants/jewelry/renovations. I am told that DDM was a compulsive spender.

 

[Finally_]

When her computer is returned, will she getting an account here and joining us? I would really like her to join in.

Yes, as I stated before I have requested and encouraged her to register on the site. She stated to me that she is more than willing to answer quiestions as well. However, DebM, explained to me that some people may not really want to hear the truth, and that she may get booted off the site for her truthfullness.

 

[Finally_]

Trust me when I say this, there are many things that, I too, as well as many of you, question myself. The only things that we can go on are our own instincts, conversing with others and when media/LE confirms things. I hope no one here takes offense in my ways of providing information, as well as realizing, I do not dismiss anyone from anything. When I worked for Orient Road Jail, and in experiences in life, I realize anyone is capable of doing anything. I am only here because I too try to put pieces together from all of this and try to help if I do in all of you putting pieces together as well.
I watch, listen, and share. That is all I can do, at this point. My prayers go out to AS family and RJ, for they too are all victims in this as well. And ANYONE that was or is STILL involved in any of the wrong-doings in this case, I am in hopes that we all help to seek out TRUE JUSTICE in this case.

 

[Susan1]

Yes, as I stated before I have requested and encouraged her to register on the site. She stated to me that she is more than willing to answer quiestions as well. However, DebM, explained to me that some people may not really want to hear the truth, and that she may get booted off the site for her truthfullness.

I am looking forward to seeing her here and I welcome the truth. Dmoore was amusing when she came here with her pathetic, transparent lies and the researchers saw through her quickly. It would be refreshing to have someone close to the case come here and tell us the truth. I can't really see anyone getting booted off for telling the truth. They may ask her some hard questions, she may not like all of our opinions, she may have a different way of looking at things. But I'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say and she is welcome here. The truth is exactly what the researchers here are looking for.

Finally, do you also suffer from insomnia?

 

[Finally_]

LOL. I worked night shifts for many many years. Maybe it's insomnia, or maybe it's just habit. Have had to be on night watch for so long that it's hard to convince the mind that now it's time to go to sleep at night!
Tonight is an extremely hard night for me to sleep, for today February 28th marks a month since the truth came out and AS remains were found. All of this sickens me, to know that DDM possibly took a life and hurt so many others. Many cars visited behind 5802 yesterday, I wonder if it was AS family/friends or just people with the want-to-see factor.

 

[Susan1]

http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/About-HCSO/Press-Releases/Releases/2010/February/10-041.aspx
and
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/About-HCSO/Press-Releases/Releases/2010/February/10-043.aspx/
They are probably already posted somewhere here, but I couldn't find them earlier. They are the 2 news releases from Hillsborough County Sheriff's.
They also talk about the back hoe.

 

[Finally_]

My reasoning behind the backhoe questions is, I am trying to put together time/dates/occurences with people and stories, I myself, have heard so many lies/stories, not just of DDM. But others, and I don't know what happened to guitarman_fl, but IMO he too, as I do, feel that someone else that was in very close contact with DDM, KNOWS alot more than they have disclosed.
And when I heard yesterday that that backhoe is supposedly sold and in Africa now. It was just another one of those things that makes a person think "hmm".

 

[wanttohelp]

ok the guy living at that address is her son. I remember in some docs she had a hubby jorge and this guy at the address is jr, so.......
IMO I think she may have taken over debt. Like probally owes taxes that were never paid. Since status of the last filing, and the affadvaid reporting there has been a profit.
But the best part guys, are ya ready for this one!!

 

[Finally_]

Within my career, there were times when I had to take part in booking and dealing with High Profilers, rapists/murders/serial killers. But I can honestly say, that DDM is a real piece of work! I guess some High Profilers due to mental illnesses/or other reasons, oh they stick in your mind, but to know that someone killed over PURE GREED and never even felt remorse, pointing the fingers at everyone including their own blood, IMO, lethal injection would be too nice for that person. JMO!

 

[Finally_]

ok the guy living at that address is her son. I remember in some docs she had a hubby jorge and this guy at the address is jr, so.......
IMO I think she may have taken over debt. Like probally owes taxes that were never paid. Since status of the last filing, and the affadvaid reporting there has been a profit.
But the best part guys, are ya ready for this one!!

Not sure where you are going with this? That was DDM and Shars address before moving to Redhawk. As I already stated nurses/CNA's are allowed to use their place of business for public record. DebM does not and never has lived there! Look back again in public records, somewhere you will find that that was DDM's address.

 

[Finally_]

Not sure of how to upload, but I tried to upload an annual report from AMP, showing DDM's address on Stevenson.
Hope it works, someone let me know if they are able to view this?

 

[Susan1]

You uploaded it fine. I could view it.
If you go back through the old posts, it's already been written about that Dorice lived on Stevenson Street. They even had a picture of the house.
I think you answered the question, though. She used her place of business as her address when she filed her CNA with the state, a common practice. When I had a notary license in NY, I used my place of business for my address as well.

 

[ACandyRose]

Finally, or we can all go to Websleuths chat. Well I'm there now. Thanks to ACR for replying to my pm s about that though.

wanttohelp, no offense, but for the record, I really don't do live chat, or IM, etc, and normally I don't post that much on the public forums, as can be noted from my posting count here, considering how long I've been a member. As a rule, I prefer communicating in an open public forum so there is no misunderstanding of what I say or didn't say. So in all due respect, I apologize for not responding to your PM invite to chat about this case in private chat.

ACR

 

[ACandyRose]

My reasoning behind the backhoe questions is, I am trying to put together time/dates/occurences with people and stories, I myself, have heard so many lies/stories, not just of DDM. But others, and I don't know what happened to guitarman_fl, but IMO he too, as I do, feel that someone else that was in very close contact with DDM, KNOWS alot more than they have disclosed.
And when I heard yesterday that that backhoe is supposedly sold and in Africa now. It was just another one of those things that makes a person think "hmm".

Finally, in your own research, did you happen to find out about when Dee Dee sold that backhoe, or when was the last time it was on the property at either 5732 or 5802 State Rd 60?

Thank you again for all your input and sharing what you can on this case.

ACR

 

[ACandyRose]

Finally,

Since you posted previously here that you would like to read some of Dee Dee Moore's posting that were here on Websleuths, I made a list of all the links for you to review her postings. Since you're in communication with DebM, perhaps she would like to read them also. I hope this helps.

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The links to the posts below were logged in under the "DMoore" screen name and that poster introduced herself to the forum as Dee Dee Moore. Later, that poster claimed that somebody else was posting here under that name pretending to be Dee Dee Moore.

12-05-2009, 12:43 AM
Hello, This is Deedee Moore
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12-05-2009, 01:38 AM
You really need to remove this message if you...
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12-05-2009, 01:53 AM
I suggest you remove all untrue facts posted. You...
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12-05-2009, 04:25 PM
Hello, this is Deedee Moore
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12-05-2009, 08:53 PM
There is information on the web that is not...
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12-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Eddie Dixon that made the comment about me in the...
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12-06-2009, 06:04 PM
They did use Luminol and left it all over...
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12-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Business is Business. I refused at first because...
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12-06-2009, 09:39 PM
Barbara Jackson lied. She and her husband got a...
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12-06-2009, 09:59 PM
I did not agree to buy the bad ones. I bought the...
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12-06-2009, 10:01 PM
Still writing the book it's just getting...
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12-09-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm not even going to bother posting anymore...
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12-10-2009, 01:29 AM
Since your so interested in me...
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12-10-2009, 02:30 AM
He was not paying child support on that child. He...
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12-10-2009, 02:39 AM
Trust me I would be sad if I thought for one...
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12-10-2009, 01:19 PM
I did not serve a years’ probation. Check again....
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12-10-2009, 01:35 PM
He did not drive the truck he was a ride along....
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12-10-2009, 01:42 PM
I told Mrs. Green I was offering a 10,000 reward....
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12-10-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm not the one not looking for Abraham. You’re...
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12-11-2009, 02:05 AM
I will answer some more question since some of...
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12-11-2009, 12:33 PM
Cedric had seen Abraham. You only see what they...
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12-11-2009, 01:35 PM
I can't post here anymore. I just found out why...
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ACR

 

[blue mermaid]

Just another tidbit, since you guys know researching alot more than I, is there any way of finding out a serial number possibly on the sale of a backhoe? Is that a public record anywhere? Also, recently it was brought to my attention that that backhoe was sold and in AFRICA now! Does anyone else find that interesting? I do since there was mention of "how DDM moved AS body" and then the statement made by guitarman_fl in reference to the PP theory of how DDM moved the body! And now this backhoe in AFRICA? Just info I thought I'd share, not sure of the facts of it all just things that have been brought to my attention!

That is a random and very interesting bit of info, IMO.

Do you know how it ended up in Africa?