GUILTY FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #8

[mysticrose]

Apparently I am missing something here ? :waitasec: I guess I need to go back and read a few pages .....

 

[Susan1]

I have told ALL i know about this case to the Detectives so I know i am good.And i say only what i am aloud to say..This is exactly what i am saying i feel that regardless what i say here you all have made up your minds as to what i am and what i have or have not done so why should i even bother with telling my side..

It sounds as if your side of the story is being stifled by legal issues from Dorice's upcoming trial. But if this is the legal matter that is keeping you in Plant City, I don't think you should let Dorice's trial hold you in Plant City. They can provide transportation for you if you have to appear at the trial. I know in NY that witnesses are paid transportation costs.
As much as I admire the police and detectives in this case and all that they have done, in my opinion they should not ask private citizens to get involved as undercover agents in a murder trial, especially not when there may be others who have not been arrested still out on the loose. I don't know for sure that they have, but that guy who helped find out where Abraham was buried said he was working undercover. I guess it comes to his credibility. Although I fully believe she could have, I'm not entirely convinced Dorice acted on her own. There were just too many other people who were benefiting monetarily from Abraham's death. I don't think it is wise to put civilians at risk.
There have been others on in the past who said the same, that they are not sure how much they can say or they have been told there are things they can't say.

 

[joybell]

...your story is nothing i have never heard before....but don't u think u r going to get my part....i'm MARYLIN MONROE... and don't u forget it...lol

 

[wanttohelp]

or never mind, is it your helping your daughter with her case probally

 

[overwhelmed]

I am totally confused.Sorry I am just not getting this..

 

[joybell]

well get this....U R WAY OVER YOUR LEAGUE...come home...its ok...r u getting this...don't get no more involved....

 

[overwhelmed]

It sounds as if your side of the story is being stifled by legal issues from Dorice's upcoming trial. But if this is the legal matter that is keeping you in Plant City, I don't think you should let Dorice's trial hold you in Plant City. They can provide transportation for you if you have to appear at the trial. I know in NY that witnesses are paid transportation costs.
As much as I admire the police and detectives in this case and all that they have done, in my opinion they should not ask private citizens to get involved as undercover agents in a murder trial, especially not when there may be others who have not been arrested still out on the loose. I don't know for sure that they have, but that guy who helped find out where Abraham was buried said he was working undercover. I guess it comes to his credibility. Although I fully believe she could have, I'm not entirely convinced Dorice acted on her own. There were just too many other people who were benefiting monetarily from Abraham's death. I don't think it is wise to put civilians at risk.
There have been others on in the past who said the same, that they are not sure how much they can say or they have been told there are things they can't say.

I am not working under cover for the police and this case has nothing to do with my legal matter it is something totally different and has nothing to do with anyone envolved in this case.

 

[joybell]

u know after a bunch of years in corrections...as i was always the one...after the judge, jury and God...they came to me...this was long before females was accepted in all male facilities...but i was there...and i wasn't easy....i've heard it all...it took me a few years of retirement to appreciate being a lady again...but the one thing these inmates taught be is this....u don't have to be behind bars to learn this game...no she wasn't by herself...and yes she had folks that helped her...but someone was smarter than her so far....they had something on her .....she didn't won't told...when they find that out..then we will find out the rest of the story...as always...joybell

 

[overwhelmed]

or never mind, is it your helping your daughter with her case probally

My daughter has no case with any thing what are you all talking about here?

 

[joybell]

....ok let's leave the family out of this.....please...wanttohelp...we all got hearts...i'm a mom...don't mess with me about my yungin's...easy

 

[joybell]

look at all this activity.....we haven't had this much attention on this site in awhile.....ROLL CALL PLEASE..

 

[overwhelmed]

well get this....U R WAY OVER YOUR LEAGUE...come home...its ok...r u getting this...don't get no more involved....

I was trying to stay out of this i really was.The only reason i came on this site was to set the record straight as to what was said about me.I was not ever going to come here.And as for anything else i am not involved in this stuff.I was put in this mess and believe me i do not feel i am living MY life any more.Trust me Joybell i am as well from callaway and i would give anything to come home right now but at this time i can not.

 

[Susan1]

I am not working under cover for the police and this case has nothing to do with my legal matter it is something totally different and has nothing to do with anyone envolved in this case.

I am glad to hear that. I don't think it is safe to ever act as an undercover agent for police as a civilian. You have said several times you are talking to Detectives and that you can't say certain things I thought they may have you as one of their witnesses when you were saying that. I know you said you were making calls to Dorice as well and I thought they might have you doing something undercover there as well, especially given that the calls are recorded. It was just from the comments you made.

I appreciate your being here. I think you've been very helpful about many of the things we would have no other way of knowing than your input. You know Dorice. I know there are a few others here who know her as well, but most of us do not. You know about the business and what happened with that as well.

And it makes sense to wait out the lease for the 3 months. It will be safer there now there will be a guard 24/7. That actually is beneficial to you. Personally, I couldn't live there. Not just because Abraham died there, but like I said, I'm not convinced she acted alone. I'd never sleep. Got to give you credit for being able to stay there, although here you are at 1am in the morning with us so maybe you sleep days. I'm an insomniac. Have sleep apnea and I am up about 20 times a night.

 

[overwhelmed]

I am glad to hear that. I don't think it is safe to ever act as an undercover agent for police as a civilian. You have said several times you are talking to Detectives and that you can't say certain things I thought they may have you as one of their witnesses when you were saying that. I know you said you were making calls to Dorice as well and I thought they might have you doing something undercover there as well, especially given that the calls are recorded. It was just from the comments you made.

I appreciate your being here. I think you've been very helpful about many of the things we would have no other way of knowing than your input. You know Dorice. I know there are a few others here who know her as well, but most of us do not. You know about the business and what happened with that as well.

And it makes sense to wait out the lease for the 3 months. It will be safer there now there will be a guard 24/7. That actually is beneficial to you. Personally, I couldn't live there. Not just because Abraham died there, but like I said, I'm not convinced she acted alone. I'd never sleep. Got to give you credit for being able to stay there, although here you are at 1am in the morning with us so maybe you sleep days. I'm an insomniac. Have sleep apnea and I am up about 20 times a night.

I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

 

[Susan1]

I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

She calls you, then, from the jail?
And that is what is putting you between a rock and a hard place. There is only so much you can say. My guess is that you will be really glad when this trial is over and she is locked up for the rest of her natural life.
I remember when she first came on our site and we all told her she would be wearing orange and she just did not believe us. Why did she ever think she would get away with it? I have never understood her criminal mentality that she thinks she is smarter than everyone else and that she could commit the crimes she did and she could talk her way out of it.
Time was not on her side. Time proved her wrong. Someone has a great signature line... time and pressure.

 

[joybell]

...awww.....overwhelmed...listen...ONE MORE TIME...this is it.....i know and believe you know...everything i'm talking about...this is a no win situation...i don't care what happened or how anything will ever happen...but it far to late..for u to start playing this game....if u dotted an "i" that should not have been dotted...if u signed a check that should not have been signed..i believe with all my heart ...u will end up taking the fall for everyone....handle your business...it's time to take care of you...the house of cards r falling...and it ain't lookin good...take care of you..joybell

 

[wanttohelp]

I have never called her.And i was told that if it has not been made public i can not talk about it.

come on, same thing if she calls you. you have to accept the call.

 

[wanttohelp]

not to mention i dont think those is jail recieve calls

 

[Susan1]

I still have that one unanswered question. Did Dorice just give you the company because she was tired of it which suggests that she gave it to you for free or did you have to pay for the company?
Okay, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record.

 

[overwhelmed]

Ok i am going to bed All this is got my head spinning...If you know that i have done something then come out and say it do not keep me guessing at what you want to know.Everything i have done the detective knows.I never made one move with out his concent.So i have nothing to worry about.Besides someone telling tales about me.