FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

  • #801
2 young daughters = one room
2 teenage sons = one room
2 adults = one room
Anna = Dining room
SH's other teenage son = TH's home

JMO
I would love to know if it was Anna's choice to not share a room with the 2 younger step sisters. Did her step mother insist they not share? Generally, dining rooms don't have closet space so where did she keep her clothes, accessories, shoes, etc? Did they convert the dining room and build a closet for her? Or was she somewhat orphaned since she was soon to be out of the blended family home, presumably forever.

It sure is quiet as to any human connections they had. Its such a mystery as to how Anna felt about her life situation. Not even one of her fellow cheerleaders has spoken? No friends? Being a private religious school, and maybe younger siblings attending there also, were they all warned not to speak?

Does anyone know the size of her religious school? And did the 16 year old attend there also? Had there been school changes along with all the family changes in spouses?
 
  • #802
I would love to know if it was Anna's choice to not share a room with the 2 younger step sisters. Did her step mother insist they not share? Generally, dining rooms don't have closet space so where did she keep her clothes, accessories, shoes, etc? Did they convert the dining room and build a closet for her? Or was she somewhat orphaned since she was soon to be out of the blended family home, presumably forever.

It sure is quiet as to any human connections they had. Its such a mystery as to how Anna felt about her life situation. Not even one of her fellow cheerleaders has spoken? No friends? Being a private religious school, and maybe younger siblings attending there also, were they all warned not to speak?

Does anyone know the size of her religious school? And did the 16 year old attend there also? Had there been school changes along with all the family changes in spouses?

Sounds like she was treated more like the "step child" in her father's own home. Like, you are leaving soon, there ain't no room here for you.

That is just sad to me. No home or bedroom to go back to. Pretty evident.
 
  • #803
I understand mechanical asphyxiation to mean anything outside the body. So his arm on her throat is "mechanical"
Yes, but that is only ONE way it could happen. It wasn't "Manual Strangulation" or "Throttling", so that atm leaves it open for many possibilities.
 
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I know I never knew Anna, but am just so infuriated on her behalf.

IMO she’s spent her entire life on this VERY UGLY CAROUSEL of constantly changing parents and stepparents and parental figures, such as the grandparents.

She was the eldest of all the kids? And a female, but was consigned to sleep in the dining room—-that’s so wrong.

It’s such a tragedy that she was months away from stepping off the carousel and making her own choices, like the military, and she will never now experience the life she could have made for herself.

JMO
 
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  • #806
The death of a Florida teenager on a Carnival cruise ship earlier this month has been ruled a homicide, the latest development in a case that has drawn international attention and sparked intense speculation on social media.

Anna Kepner's cause of death was “mechanical asphyxia," according to a copy of her death certificate obtained by ABC News, which said the 18-year-old “was mechanically asphyxiated by other person(s)."

Mechanical asphyxia is when an object or physical force stops someone from breathing, according to Stephen Nelson, a chief medical examiner in Central Florida who is not involved in the case.

“In some way, shape or form, your airway has been cut off,” said Nelson, a former chair of Florida's Medical Examiners Commission...
 
  • #807
The grandma may not have meant to say "demons", but more like problems, or issues. In my book it's not quite the same. It may have just been a word she often used. Regardless, he'll have demons now.
 
  • #808
How has there not been an arrest by now? What's the hold up?
 
  • #809
Yes, we learned that in the Maddie Soto case (at least in Florida, other states may do things differently), but Anna wasn't a minor at 18. Her suspected murderer is.

So I still find it interesting that there are 2 different versions of death certificates. One for the public, and one for the family. I'm thinking that it's perhaps because the case isn't over and only just beginning? I could be wrong about that though.
Maddie also did not have her own bedroom. Also had a parent who did not protect.

Anna’s ex boyfriend said her father knew this boy climbed on top of her when she was in bed, and then he let him share a cabin with her for a week. 😟
 
  • #810
I asked in an earlier post about the size of Temple Christian School in Titusville. I looked it up and Wikipedia says teaching staff of 24 and total enrollment of 300 students from elementary through high school.

This seems... small? She first attended public high school where she was a cheerleader, then was moved to a religious school (do we know why?) then was moved to Temple. That seems alot of school changes for someone just starting their senior year of high school.

Wikipedia states yearly tuition was a bit over $6,000. Wondering who paid and do all the kids go there and why? I find myself wishing they'd saved that money and bought a house with one more bedroom.

Maybe the silence of anyone who knows these people is due to not many actually knowing them? The step grandfather who spoke out, is he the step mom's dad? He didnt say much but didnt hold back either. Guessing he knows more about the 16 year old. Or is he the step mom's exhusband's dad? The article didnt identify that.

Did the 16 year old play soccer on the little church school's team?
 
  • #811
How has there not been an arrest by now? What's the hold up?

Mama Bear put her 16 year old in the "hospital". Too traumatized to speak to anyone and he can't remember anything that happened.

Almost like this was absolutely scripted to the microscopic details. Makes me wonder if something else happened before. Because it was sure choreographed fast.
 
  • #812
This seems... small? She first attended public high school where she was a cheerleader, then was moved to a religious school (do we know why?) then was moved to Temple. That seems alot of school changes for someone just starting their senior year of high school.

Wikipedia states yearly tuition was a bit over $6,000. Wondering who paid and do all the kids go there and why? I find myself wishing they'd saved that money and bought a house with one more bedroom.
Especially since the family doesn't sound or appear to be very religious....
 
  • #813
Especially since the family doesn't sound or appear to be very religious....
Anna was, according to her obituary. No idea about the rest of the family, though
 
  • #814
I would love to know if it was Anna's choice to not share a room with the 2 younger step sisters. Did her step mother insist they not share? Generally, dining rooms don't have closet space so where did she keep her clothes, accessories, shoes, etc? Did they convert the dining room and build a closet for her? Or was she somewhat orphaned since she was soon to be out of the blended family home, presumably forever.

It sure is quiet as to any human connections they had. Its such a mystery as to how Anna felt about her life situation. Not even one of her fellow cheerleaders has spoken? No friends? Being a private religious school, and maybe younger siblings attending there also, were they all warned not to speak?

Does anyone know the size of her religious school? And did the 16 year old attend there also? Had there been school changes along with all the family changes in spouses?
Interesting point. The only one who has spoken out for Anna is the ex boyfriend. Did he also attend the private Christian school?
 
  • #815
"Two peas in a pod"
Really?
And is that the reason for sharing a room together? They were like bro & sis.
Ive not understood the room share situation. Why share a room with a 16 year old step-sibling?
I am sure there were other valid reasons. Money?

Another thing, is why the quick cremation? I could be wrong about that because they have collected all the evidence needed.

What's clear and obvious is that something went horribly wrong and Anna paid with her life. moo


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  • #816
Especially since the family doesn't sound or appear to be very religious....
IF... big if, the 16 year old boy "with demons in his past" had been thrown out of other schools due to behavioral issues and was placed in this small church school that appears to have had only one class of each grade level, then was Anna made to go there too and used to transport the troubled 16 year old also, maybe even the other kids too? That seems an awful lot of tuition for a family that couldn't afford bedrooms for all their kids. IF this was her first year there, maybe that's why no friends or parents of friends have spoken about the family dynamics?

I understand the oldest son of step mom and his dad can't really say anything YET due to family court and custody issues. But NOBODY?? ANYWHERE??

Maybe if the other children are removed to a safer and more protected environment, more people will begin to speak out. Maybe someone who knows the ex-husband can speak without affecting the custody case?
 
  • #817
  • #818
Anna is the victim, no reason excuses the poi .

Not 'Demons '
Not she didn't mind sharing or wanted to
Not but they were two peas in a pod
Not infatuation
Not anything she done or didn't do as a person
Not her yelling

The responsibility lays firmly at his feet
He chose to lock the door
He chose to strangle Her
He chose to wrap Her in a blanket
He chose to roll or push Her under the bed
He chose not to tell anyone
He chose not to get help

Anna didn't get to choose
Choices were made for her before and after her death

POI was 16 ,he wasn't 8 , he had acute awareness of what was right and wrong acutely enough to conceal Her body
JMHO

#women's choices matter
To clarify, I think people here are blaming the parents, not Anna. And I think that blame is fair. That’s not to suggest the step brother is relieved of any blame.
 
  • #819
IME, when I divorced and my ex moved in with someone who also had kids (they never married though) it was court ordered that after age 12, siblings of opposite genders must have separate bedrooms and step siblings must also have separate rooms. This wasn’t in Florida but I imagine it’s a pretty common stipulation in divorce/child custody cases. Of course, it would require both parents follow the court order, or someone raising concern if it wasn’t followed. Sadly it doesn’t seem Anna had any adults in her life like that.
 
  • #820
To clarify, I think people here are blaming the parents, not Anna. And I think that blame is fair. That’s not to suggest the step brother is relieved of any blame.
I don't see either the father or the step mother being blamed for Anna's murder. I do see discussion of '"attending factors", factors that may have created circumstances that increased the likelihood bad things could happen IF certain things that have been reported are indeed true.

Some of those factors are:
• Did they know the 16 year old had sexually assaulted Anna previously (the bf reported they did)
• Did the 16 year old have mental health and/or behavioral issues that were known (the step grandmother used the words "demons in his past")

Both of these factors have been published here in accepted news media, both spoken by people very close to Anna, and so, of course, are being discussed.

As a suspect, the attending factors involving the 16 year old are pertinent to the case. We are specifically discussing the 16 year old as it pertains to Anna's living situation.

The parent and step parent absolutely did not commit this murder but they may have opened the door to allow it to happen more easily. Its a fact that Anna, as a minor dependent child, lived under the care and jurisdiction of her father and, by circumstance, the step mother. One of stepmother's offspring had already been removed or removed himself from her home allegedly due to violence and a volatile home situation. That seems pertinent. Add to that a 16 year old with issues of some degree of importance, and here we are.

Hopefully more will be made known in time. The silence is deafening but the little bits we do know show an unfortunate set of factors not in Anna's favor.

That may be uncomfortable to some folks but hopefully could be a wake up call to some and may even save lives.
 
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