FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

[Synergizer Bunny]

While some do do that, I'm thinking those 2 absolutely did not do that IMO. Like zip, nada, uh uh, no way.

I agree. If it is true that Anna's brother was not able to get into the room due to it being locked with the deadbolt, there is no chance that the two in the room were playing some kind of choking game. Plus, Anna, who is 18 years old, seemed way too level headed with too many goals that she wanted to achieve after graduation to play some kind of choking game.

JMO.

 

[OneLove]

While some do do that, I'm thinking those 2 absolutely did not do that IMO. Like zip, nada, uh uh, no way.

That "theory" totally ignores the thrashing around, furniture being thrown, and early report of the murderer yelling "shut the hell up" loudly enough to be heard outside the room during the thrashing with locked door, not to mention Anna being nude. Yeah, not a chance on it being ANY kind of game.

 

[Cedars]

These things take time.

Particularly toxicology. Also, analysing things like data pings, CCTV, going through phone messages and internet searchs, etc. Meanwhike I'm pretty sure the FBI are keeping a close watch (and listen) on key people...

 

[Vegoia]

weird that People mag is a main source of info. MSN

Anna Kepner murder: Mom of 'suspect' waited 32 hours to inform dad, said supporting son would 'jeopardize' her marriage​

• Shauntel Kepner did not tell her ex-husband Thomas Hudson that her stepdaughter Anna Kepner was dead until 32 hours later
• "I need you to call me asap it's an emergency," Shauntel wrote to Hudson on Nov. 8, at 7:34 p.m.
• In another exchange between the two that was filed in court, Hudson wrote: "I kept my mouth shut when you told me that you can't jeopardize your marriage for helping [redacted] your son"

"I need you to call me asap it's an emergency."

 

[Megnut]

weird that People mag is a main source of info. MSN

Anna Kepner murder: Mom of 'suspect' waited 32 hours to inform dad, said supporting son would 'jeopardize' her marriage​

• Shauntel Kepner did not tell her ex-husband Thomas Hudson that her stepdaughter Anna Kepner was dead until 32 hours later
• "I need you to call me asap it's an emergency," Shauntel wrote to Hudson on Nov. 8, at 7:34 p.m.
• In another exchange between the two that was filed in court, Hudson wrote: "I kept my mouth shut when you told me that you can't jeopardize your marriage for helping [redacted] your son"

"I need you to call me asap it's an emergency."

I ask, rhetorically, why she waited 32 hours to tell her ex-husband.

She wasn't done yet with her vacation at sea.

Probably hard to come up with the right words for

Um...

We're sort of kind of accidentally on an international cruise you didn't know about/agree to...

I purposefully roomed opposite-sex, biologically-unrelated teenagers in one cabin without any supervision or bed checks...

I brought proper medication but I didn't properly dose the child who needed it...

Oh, and a stepchild was murdered...

And...

She really needed 32 hours to find words? Those words, any words, some words. And she chooses NO words? How do you withhold that information from the legal father????? It wasn't HER information to hoard. He had a right to know immediately.

I'd be incensed.

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

I find it a bit bewildering that Shauntel is in a custody hearing concerning custody of her minor children. One older boy, the eighteen year old, has already gone to live with his father after being held in a "choke hold" by his stepfather, and another one, the sixteen year old, is the only suspect in the murder of her stepdaughter, yet she seems to think that she is the better parent for custody of the minors. What the heck? What judge would think that the children are better off being with her?

 

[Gemmie]

Particularly toxicology. Also, analysing things like data pings, CCTV, going through phone messages and internet searchs, etc. Meanwhike I'm pretty sure the FBI are keeping a close watch (and listen) on key people...

Yeah. While I'd like all the info yesterday on all cases I'm watching... I'm fine waiting for LE to come up with an ironclad case.

 

[Stunned]

DBM

 

[Wallendo]

How on earth did she mange to do that with a 14 year old full sibling knowing his sister is gone from a cruise ship? What were her grandparents doing? Gambling still? How can daddy remain oblivious? IMO

The article is about the 16 year old stepbrother’s mother not notifying the stepbrother’s father about Anna’s death, and especially not mentioning that their son might be involved. The article does not mention Anna’a parents or grandparents in any way.

Also, the 14 year old is Anna’s half-brother.

 

[OneLove]

She really needed 32 hours to find words? Those words, any words, some words. And she chooses NO words? How do you withhold that information from the legal father????? It wasn't HER information to hoard. He had a right to know immediately.

I'd be incensed.

JMO

Yep, outraged and disgusted I'd be.

I'm betting those 32 hours were spent in intensive talks with cruise ship staff, calls with attorneys, deep discussions with and comforting of the surviving children, strategy sessions with the grandparents, and desperately trying to salvage her relationship with her husband who was known to have a considerable temper.

I'd bet a good bit of the daylight hours were spent on the phone with attorneys for strategy and advice. And maybe sometime also with the kid's psychiatrist?

 

[AuDHD]

Yep, outraged and disgusted I'd be.

I'm betting those 32 hours were spent in intensive talks with cruise ship staff, calls with attorneys, deep discussions with and comforting of the surviving children, strategy sessions with the grandparents, and desperately trying to salvage her relationship with her husband who was known to have a considerable temper.

I'd bet a good bit of the daylight hours were spent on the phone with attorneys for strategy and advice. And maybe sometime also with the kid's psychiatrist?

Still, I’d think his bio dad should be alerted to the problem and his involvement in it and dad would ideally be part of any hypothetical strategizing sessions/ psychiatrists discussions

edit to add just my opinion

 

[Spectrix]

A man onboard the same cruise ship as Anna Kepner, the 18-year-old found dead in her cabin five days into the voyage, unknowingly captured some of the last footage of her alive.

Nicholas Giddens recorded the video on the pool deck of the Carnival Horizon ship on November 2, the day it left Miami, and posted it to his TikTok account thinking nothing of it.

It showed passengers participating in a synchronized dance routine to the Cupid Shuffle that was part of the ship's Sail Away Party.

Anna Kepner's final moments captured before she was found dead

New footage shows cheerleader Anna Kepner having the time of her life onboard the doomed cruise just days before she was found dead in her cabin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[lonetraveler]

I ask, rhetorically, why she waited 32 hours to tell her ex-husband.

She wasn't done yet with her vacation at sea.

Probably hard to come up with the right words for

Um...

We're sort of kind of accidentally on an international cruise you didn't know about/agree to...

I purposefully roomed opposite-sex, biologically-unrelated teenagers in one cabin without any supervision or bed checks...

I brought proper medication but I didn't properly dose the child who needed it...

Oh, and a stepchild was murdered...

And...

She really needed 32 hours to find words? Those words, any words, some words. And she chooses NO words? How do you withhold that information from the legal father????? It wasn't HER information to hoard. He had a right to know immediately.

I'd be incensed.

JMO

I think this is her "normal" way of dealing with anything involving communication with her ex-husband.

 

[lonetraveler]

Yep, outraged and disgusted I'd be.

I'm betting those 32 hours were spent in intensive talks with cruise ship staff, calls with attorneys, deep discussions with and comforting of the surviving children, strategy sessions with the grandparents, and desperately trying to salvage her relationship with her husband who was known to have a considerable temper.

I'd bet a good bit of the daylight hours were spent on the phone with attorneys for strategy and advice. And maybe sometime also with the kid's psychiatrist?

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think this woman was used to being in command of every single thing.

 

[BreakingNews]

I ask, rhetorically, why she waited 32 hours to tell her ex-husband.

She wasn't done yet with her vacation at sea.

Probably hard to come up with the right words for

Um...

We're sort of kind of accidentally on an international cruise you didn't know about/agree to...

I purposefully roomed opposite-sex, biologically-unrelated teenagers in one cabin without any supervision or bed checks...

I brought proper medication but I didn't properly dose the child who needed it...

Oh, and a stepchild was murdered...

And...

She really needed 32 hours to find words? Those words, any words, some words. And she chooses NO words? How do you withhold that information from the legal father????? It wasn't HER information to hoard. He had a right to know immediately.

I'd be incensed.

JMO

But wasn't this her ex husband? The father of her son? Not Anna's father. He was on the ship with her. Or am I totally confused?

 

[Megnut]

But wasn't this her ex husband? The father of her son? Not Anna's father. He was on the ship with her. Or am I totally confused?

Yes, her ex-husband. The father of the boy in question.

Seems like an immediate call was in order.

JMO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Not thinking through consequences before acting is an experience many young ADHDers will find familiar.

A teenager with ADHD would know the consequences of putting someone into a chokehold. The consequences of a violent act wouldn't be a mystery to them while they were committing it.

How very different the outcome may have been if TH had just fallen asleep, with the proper meds at the proper time and dosage.

Taking ADHD medication or not isn't the difference between leaving someone alone or getting them alone in a room and attacking them until they die, though.

It is ADHD, not psychosis. He chose what he chose. If people were that dangerous from skipping ADHD medication, imagine how violent the world would be?

I fully understand why his parents would rather put blame on ADHD and medication than have to admit the truth, though. They would be desperate for an answer to how this came to be, something that took away from his or their guilt.

In their shoes, I might be doing these mental gymnastics, too, because the truth would be so hard to face.

 

[Wallendo]

It is interesting that the father of the 16 year old, in his message to the child's mother his ex wife, describes the 16 year old as "your son", not "our son".

• In another exchange between the two that was filed in court, Hudson wrote: "I kept my mouth shut when you told me that you can't jeopardize your marriage for helping [redacted] your son"

I am very interested to know what the redacted word or phrase is. In context, it is likely a verb. I initially thought it was simply an expletive, but that doesn't really make sense. What was the 16 year old's father keeping quiet about?

Following this case, I feel like there is a tremendous amount of relevant backstory which is being kept quiet.

 

[Megnut]

It is interesting that the father of the 16 year old, in his message to the child's mother his ex wife, describes the 16 year old as "your son", not "our son".

• In another exchange between the two that was filed in court, Hudson wrote: "I kept my mouth shut when you told me that you can't jeopardize your marriage for helping [redacted] your son"

I am very interested to know what the redacted word or phrase is. In context, it is likely a verb. I initially thought it was simply an expletive, but that doesn't really make sense. What was the 16 year old's father keeping quiet about?

Following this case, I feel like there is a tremendous amount of relevant backstory which is being kept quiet.

FWIW he's repeating what she says to him IMO. that's why it's in her language. Her, her, her (your, your, your). Her (your) son in the context of her new marriage. Hers, not his.

Secondarily.... that redaction IS perplexing.

Helping defend? That would be a word worth redacting.

JMO

 

[elliefant]

It could just be his name that is redacted, since punctuation is often missing in text messages.