FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

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And once again we have Shauntel on the stand referring to them as "the three amigos" - so someone is lying and I don't believe it's Anna's ex-boyfriend.
 
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unfortunately she will no longer have to deal with anything :(

ETA 18 is old enough to live independently, attend college, but not have her own cabin or room on a vacation? I realize finances probably played a part in the decision making about rooming, I am simply suggesting that of the two options Anna was allegedly given, neither would have been particularly attractive to me at that age. We don't have to agree on the matter. That's the beauty of conversation, everyone comes into it with their own thoughts, ideas and experiences.
I agree. It appears Anna had to make a decision between two situations that were both distasteful for her.
 
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One of my sisters and I went on a Halloween cruise some years ago. My sister didn't have a lot of money but really wanted and needed to get away for a few days. I booked our airline tickets and an interior stateroom to keep costs down. Anyone who's been on a cruise knows that, unless you can afford suite accommodations, the bathrooms are miniscule. There is barely room to turn around in the shower, and only one person can be in the bathroom at a time. Even though we are sisters, we did not want to shower or dress when the other was in the stateroom. We agreed on privacy when we needed to shower and dress, so one of us left the cabin for a period of time while the other used the bathroom.

I cannot fathom how Anna must have felt having to use the tiny bathroom in an interior stateroom with two teenage boys. Unless they had some type of privacy agreement like my sister and I did, Anna must have felt extremely uncomfortable and vulnerable. The very thought of such circumstances makes me cringe.
I've stayed in many inside rooms on cruises and had absolutely no problem with the size of the bathroom. The bathrooms on the Norwegian ship I was on had large bathrooms actually. But, I have lived on sailboats, and RVs during my lifetime so I'm used to being in smaller spaces than when I'm at home.
 
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Do I understand that the 9 year old stays with her mother because the mother said that the 16 yo will never be in the house again? That the courts think think the best choice for the 9 yo is live in a house missing two people because one allegedly killed the other?

I so feel like I am missing something.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with asking Anna to share a cabin with her grandparents.

This cruise has got to be fairly expensive for all those people. I think the better choice would have been to have Anna, her mother and the two smaller girls in the same cabin, then her father and the boys in a second cabin.
Her stepmother. Poor Anna. She might have preferred to stay home. Doesn't seem like she had much choice.
 
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As an 18 year old young woman, and I acknowledge everyone is different, I would not enjoy being on a cruise ship sharing living/sleeping quarters with my grandparents. JMO
No kidding, right? The unpleasant possibilities are endless. Snoring, farting noxious gasses, not liking a teen up late with blue screens on 'talking' to friends or tt'ing etc, maybe having to listen to "life advice" yet again, being told how wonderful the bad seed is, too many nighttime trips to bathroom, maybe g'parents bicker, being asked personal questions, expecting constant hand holding, and wait, there's more! NOT what a teen wants on a fun trip no matter how much one loves their grandparents. And she may also have felt like it woukd be an imposition. And if they smoked, the stank could be horrendous. 🤮🥵
 
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I don't see anything wrong with asking Anna to share a cabin with her grandparents.

This cruise has got to be fairly expensive for all those people. I think the better choice would have been to have Anna, her mother and the two smaller girls in the same cabin, then her father and the boys in a second cabin.
Or Anna stay with her GM and GF stay with the 16-year-old and Anna’s brother.
 
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Thomas will be back in court on Dec. 17 for a contempt hearing after filing a motion alleging that his wife did not have his permission to take their two children out of the country on the cruise.

He also said he had been blocked from seeing his two younger children for the past 18 months, and described an incident two weeks ago in which Christopher and his parents allegedly interfered with a custody exchange between him and Shauntel when she went to pick up their daughter, leading to a verbal altercation, according to a filing obtained by PEOPLE.

Thomas was allowed to spend time with his youngest daughter for the first time in over a year on Thanksgiving, just after a date was set for the emergency custody hearing.

 
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HOW did she come out of that hearing with the little??????

She interfered with parenting time for over a year, then took the child (both children) out of the country without the father's consent. That's all kinds of not okay.

Never mind the wanton lack of supervision of minors on the cruise outside of the country. She admitted to not providing T with his medications. She did not monitor the room with three unrelated teenagers (two and one), an arrangement that resulted in murder.

If that trend of poor judgment doesn't call for an emergency injunction, I don't know what does.

JMO
 
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HOW did she come out of that hearing with the little??????

She interfered with parenting time for over a year, then took the child (both children) out of the country without the father's consent. That's all kinds of not okay.

Never mind the wanton lack of supervision of minors on the cruise outside of the country. She admitted to not providing T with his medications. She did not monitor the room with three unrelated teenagers (two and one), an arrangement that resulted in murder.

If that trend of poor judgment doesn't call for an emergency injunction, I don't know what does.

JMO
I don't understand how the judge left the child in her care , there are so many red flags in this family I hope the children in this family get a lot of counseling and help. Jmvho
 
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I'm 100% Parents are idiots, but this wasn't an 'emergency' situation for the younger daughter. The judge actually got this one right. 16 yr old is not in the same city, is not around family so there is no real safety emergency. The issue is Dad did NOT file and custody issue BEFORE this (even tho he wasn't seeing his kids). While i hated seeing Chris and Shauntel's attitude/energy and how they are acting, i'm guessing there is so much disfunction between BOTH families and has been for a very long time, going back to grandparents etc. I'd like to see dates of when the two parents split on both sides, when and how long it was til she moved in with Chris and took kids to titusville. The bio dad of TH screwed himself saying he was actually going to let te younger daughter SEE TH at thanksgiving because she 'asked'. You can't use him as a reason for emergency then want him around for Thanksgiving. The whole lot of them seem to have issues, especially anger issues. I'll be interested to see more of a history of the dynamics of the families involved. And ages of EVERYONE including grands. And if they knew each other before all this, how they met etc. previous stepmom included.
 
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I have a feeling that Chris' third marriage won't be the charm.
 
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I have a feeling that Chris' third marriage won't be the charm.
OR this is the perfect one for him because he really doesn't seem like he's on team Anna here.
 
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OR this is the perfect one for him because he really doesn't seem like he's on team Anna here.
He is on team Chris and will throw his wife under the bus without batting an eye. That's my impression.
 
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I have a feeling that Chris' third marriage won't be the charm.

OR this is the perfect one for him because he really doesn't seem like he's on team Anna here.

He is on team Chris and will throw his wife under the bus without batting an eye. That's my impression.

From the outside looking in, and based on the info released so far regarding this family’s history, I don’t see bonds of love across the generations and throughout the various couplings among the adults.

I see bonds of lust, I guess, considering that one married the babysitter he’d had an affair with since she was a teenager, and all the other partner-shifting and families not blending well. A son who threw himself out of a car to get away from the newest family permutation. Custody battles. Something with a grandparent or step-someone who is a sex offender (I forget which one already). And of course defending a son who murdered his stepsister——maybe it was almost inevitable, unfortunately.

Maybe TH had no examples to follow of love and loyalty in a family. What does family even mean when it’s changing constantly?

Not defending TH of course. Many families rebuild into new ones, but there is love there.

In this family, families rather, I just don’t see love and of course no stability or healthy examples to follow.

JMO
 
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OR this is the perfect one for him because he really doesn't seem like he's on team Anna here.

Or ever was. So important to realize that you will have your children forever. (Hopefully), relationships can come and go...and in this case, it is sad how little the father cared about his relationship with his daughter, and put the relationship with his new wife ahead of his relationship with his daughter.
 
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Do I understand that the 9 year old stays with her mother because the mother said that the 16 yo will never be in the house again? That the courts think think the best choice for the 9 yo is live in a house missing two people because one allegedly killed the other?

I so feel like I am missing something.
Yes, I’d wonder if this would be a great time for the girl even temporarily going to stay with dad, like through the holidays at least - kids are apparently out of school anyway and the household must be under enormous strain and moreover the adults must be talking / having phone calls etc about the terrible situation, and the 9 year old could be away from that.
 

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